• Re: FirstGroup to operate London Overground rail network

    From boltar@boltar@caprica.universe to uk.railway,uk.transport.london on Mon Jan 5 15:29:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 18:11:51 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    In message <10je1rv$24a87$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:43:59 on Sun, 4 Jan
    2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 09:42:19 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    In message <10jd9sr$1sctp$1@dont-email.me>, at 08:54:51 on Sun, 4 Jan >>>2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 17:52:51 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    In message <10jbfkj$2kjqa$1@dont-email.me>, at 16:20:35 on Sat, 3 >>>>>Jan 2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 15:47:03 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    Sorry, but you are the one doing the swerving here. You asked what >>>>>>>was special about the number 8, and I told you.

    Yes, and that had precisely nothing to do with the DNS resolver address >>>>>>chosen by google as you have now admitted.

    Completely wrong. They chose 8.8.8.8 because it was memorable, you >>>>>then asked what was special about 8 (not why I thought 8.8.8.8 was >>>>>memorable).

    Ah, Roland debating mode #7 - pretend words had different meanings in a >>>>specific context in order to save face. Nice try.

    Which particular word did you have in mind? A red herring of course, >>>while you wriggle and squirm to try to cover up your catastrophic >>>category error.

    You're the one who babbled about 8 being special in china

    No I didn't, I merely *answered* your question which was "why is 8
    regared as special".

    The Olympic committee should create a combined sport of hair splitting and goalpost moving just for you.

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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway,uk.transport.london on Mon Jan 5 17:39:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <10jglcn$306mm$1@nntp.eternal-september.org>, at 15:29:27 on
    Mon, 5 Jan 2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:

    The Olympic committee should create a combined sport of hair splitting and >goalpost moving just for you.

    You'd get the Gold Medal for goalpost moving. Recliner the medal for
    Hair Splitting (and deliberate misunderstanding, if that one was
    created too).
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From Certes@Certes@example.org to uk.railway,uk.transport.london on Mon Jan 5 19:31:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 05/01/2026 15:29, boltar@caprica.universe wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 18:11:51 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    In message <10je1rv$24a87$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:43:59 on Sun, 4 Jan
    2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 09:42:19 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    In message <10jd9sr$1sctp$1@dont-email.me>, at 08:54:51 on Sun, 4
    Jan 2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 17:52:51 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    In message <10jbfkj$2kjqa$1@dont-email.me>, at 16:20:35 on Sat, 3 >>>>>> Jan 2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 15:47:03 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    Sorry, but you are the one doing the swerving here. You asked >>>>>>>> what was special about the number 8, and I told you.

    Yes, and that had precisely nothing to do with the DNS resolver >>>>>>> address
    chosen by google as you have now admitted.

    Completely wrong. They chose 8.8.8.8 because it was memorable, you >>>>>> then asked what was special about 8 (not why I thought 8.8.8.8 was >>>>>> memorable).

    Ah, Roland debating mode #7 - pretend words had different meanings
    in a
    specific context in order to save face. Nice try.

    Which particular word did you have in mind? A red herring of course,
    while you wriggle and squirm to try to cover up your catastrophic
    category error.

    You're the one who babbled about 8 being special in china

    No I didn't, I merely *answered* your question which was "why is 8
    regared as special".

    The Olympic committee should create a combined sport of hair splitting and goalpost moving just for you.

    They could award a peace prize for reconciliation while they're at it.
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  • From Charles Ellson@charlesellson@btinternet.com to uk.transport.london,uk.railway on Tue Jan 6 02:03:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:51:14 +0000, Certes <Certes@example.org> wrote:

    On 05/01/2026 10:06, Coffee wrote:
    On 05/01/2026 08:46, Marland wrote:
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
    In message <10jbfkj$2kjqa$1@dont-email.me>, at 16:20:35 on Sat, 3 Jan
    2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 15:47:03 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    In message <10jbbmc$1aq1o$1@dont-email.me>, at 15:13:16 on Sat, 3 Jan >>>>>> 2026, boltar@caprica.universe remarked:
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 12:45:55 +0000
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> gabbled:
    They don't. You have repeated your category error.

    So its not a vanity number then and has nothing to do with china. >>>>>>> Glad we
    finally cleared that up after your usual swerving.

    Sorry, but you are the one doing the swerving here. You asked what was >>>>>> special about the number 8, and I told you.

    Yes, and that had precisely nothing to do with the DNS resolver address >>>>> chosen by google as you have now admitted.

    Completely wrong. They chose 8.8.8.8 because it was memorable, you then >>>> asked what was special about 8 (not why I thought 8.8.8.8 was
    memorable).

    Colloquially its known as a personal plate.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_plate

    Game, Set, and Match, I think!

    https://dvlaregistrations.dvla.gov.uk/

    So what?

    They call them "Personalised Plates", the public calls them "Vanity
    plates".

    In fact the DVLA has dumbed it down (no surprise there), because people >>>> also buy memorable plates which are nothing to do with their own person. >>>>
    There are quite a lot in my former home town, where the three letters
    are "ELY" for example.

    Personalised plates tend to be the ones that people transfera the numbers >>> and letters from vehicle to vehicle because they hold an attachment to
    them
    for various reasons.
    a They are regarded as Vanity plates by some who think they are a bit
    pretentious and a means of showing off.aa Actual Vanity plates are more
    likely to be for show offs ,they are not interested in the number as such >>> and wonAt bother to transfer it but will use fancy and illegal fonts,size >>> and positions
    to make their statement.a As suppliers can not supply them legally as
    registration plates for on road use they declare that theya are for
    use at
    places like a car show so have the moniker Show Plates.
    Obviously there can be some crossover between types.

    The NPR software for our car park has been updated.a It can recognise
    some illegal number plates and does not open the barrier/gates.

    This is on the basis the car may not be road legal bya waya of
    modification and not insured.

    That sounds like a scam. Is it really legal for a private car park
    operator to requisition a vehicle, presumably charging a hefty fee for
    its ongoing storage, because they think it may not be road legal?
    Those vigilantes may be heading for a costly court case.

    On what grounds? Like e.g. a pub landlord, they can refuse entry to
    anybody they like as long as it doesn't breach any duty/obligation or
    break discrimination laws.
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  • From John Levine@johnl@taugh.com to uk.transport.london,uk.railway on Tue Jan 6 04:25:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    According to Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk>:
    Personalised plates tend to be the ones that people transfer the numbers
    and letters from vehicle to vehicle because they hold an attachment to them >for various reasons.

    My license plate says IPV4.

    No relation to a guy on the other side of town who has TCP-IP.
    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.transport.london,uk.railway on Tue Jan 6 06:31:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <95rolkhu27ighrbkv7p62qbqqsd2rl06r9@4ax.com>, at 02:03:30 on
    Tue, 6 Jan 2026, Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> remarked:
    The NPR software for our car park has been updated.a It can recognise
    some illegal number plates and does not open the barrier/gates.

    This is on the basis the car may not be road legal bya waya of
    modification and not insured.

    That sounds like a scam. Is it really legal for a private car park >>operator to requisition a vehicle, presumably charging a hefty fee for
    its ongoing storage,

    That's not what they are doing.

    because they think it may not be road legal?
    Those vigilantes may be heading for a costly court case.

    On what grounds? Like e.g. a pub landlord, they can refuse entry to
    anybody they like as long as it doesn't breach any duty/obligation or
    break discrimination laws.

    Indeed, and there are many stories in the papers at the moment (not fact checked) that pubs are refusing to serve their Labour MPs as a protest
    against their economic policy. It's also quite common for places to have
    a "No caravans" policy (to discourage overnight campers) and who has
    spent their life under a rock and never seen a pub with a "No Coaches"
    sign?

    ObRail: On match days several pubs in Sheffield (including I think the
    one at the station) refuse to allow entry by people wearing the "wrong" shirts.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.transport.london,uk.railway on Tue Jan 6 06:33:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <10ji2r1$vda$1@gal.iecc.com>, at 04:25:05 on Tue, 6 Jan 2026,
    John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> remarked:
    According to Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk>:

    Personalised plates tend to be the ones that people transfer the numbers >>and letters from vehicle to vehicle because they hold an attachment to them >>for various reasons.

    My license plate says IPV4.

    No relation to a guy on the other side of town who has TCP-IP.

    The USA is slightly different because in some states at least you can
    have anything you like, whereas in the UK the plates are to a strict
    format and with a few exceptions are issued on a first-come-first-served basis. Hence the active aftermarket.
    --
    Roland Perry
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