From Newsgroup: uk.railway

Am 04.01.2026 um 11:18 schrieb Anna Noyd-Dryver:

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

When I was at the GdL this summer the FS service was run from a platform >>>> that already looked a bit isolated from the rest of the station (looking >>>> towards the trains, on the far right hand side). It was partitioned off >>>> with glass screens. Seems an ideal location for London trains. My RER trip >>>> from GdN to GdL was dire. Rammed in like sardines in the vestibule.
Eliminating that transfer and avoiding the crime ridden GdN would be a >>>> selling point to me at least.

I'm not super familiar with Paris but how does GdL sit with respect to the >>> various destinations people are going to in Paris, compared with GdN?

ie it's all very well to say GdL 'saves' 20 minutes on the RER but only if >>> you were going to the vicinity of GdL anyway.

On a purely railway perspective, GdL is good for southern France, western >>> Switzerland and Italy, while GdN and adjacent Gare de l'Est are good for >>> northern and eastern France, Germany and northern Switzerland. But a good >>> number of pax are going to Paris, not taking onward connections.

Theo

ThererCOs a decent map of High Speed journey opportunities from the various >> Paris stations here:

https://transitmap.net/tgv-france-2023-lars/

In my opinion GdL serves the better tourist destinations. Remember that
Eurostar serves a lot of folk visiting UK, ie non Brits. Switzerland is now >> heaving with Asian tourists and a lot of them have UK on their tour. I bet >> you could easily fill a train or two at GdL that connected
Switzerland/Italy/S.France to UK with an interchange at GdL. Especially
when you see the vast luggage that these tourists take with them. Not
having to cart that across Paris would be a great bonus.

That's a really interesting map!

I hadn't realised how many different destinations there are which receive "between one and four TGV per day".

I'm a bit confused by the non-Paris Inoui colour codes:
Green: Strasbourg
Grey: Marseille or Lille

or:
Grey: Paris bypass
Green: nowhere near Paris?
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From Newsgroup: uk.railway

Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:

Am 04.01.2026 um 11:18 schrieb Anna Noyd-Dryver:

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

When I was at the GdL this summer the FS service was run from a platform >>>>> that already looked a bit isolated from the rest of the station (looking >>>>> towards the trains, on the far right hand side). It was partitioned off >>>>> with glass screens. Seems an ideal location for London trains. My RER trip
from GdN to GdL was dire. Rammed in like sardines in the vestibule.
Eliminating that transfer and avoiding the crime ridden GdN would be a >>>>> selling point to me at least.

I'm not super familiar with Paris but how does GdL sit with respect to the >>>> various destinations people are going to in Paris, compared with GdN?

ie it's all very well to say GdL 'saves' 20 minutes on the RER but only if >>>> you were going to the vicinity of GdL anyway.

On a purely railway perspective, GdL is good for southern France, western >>>> Switzerland and Italy, while GdN and adjacent Gare de l'Est are good for >>>> northern and eastern France, Germany and northern Switzerland. But a good >>>> number of pax are going to Paris, not taking onward connections.

Theo

ThererCOs a decent map of High Speed journey opportunities from the various >>> Paris stations here:

https://transitmap.net/tgv-france-2023-lars/

In my opinion GdL serves the better tourist destinations. Remember that
Eurostar serves a lot of folk visiting UK, ie non Brits. Switzerland is now >>> heaving with Asian tourists and a lot of them have UK on their tour. I bet >>> you could easily fill a train or two at GdL that connected
Switzerland/Italy/S.France to UK with an interchange at GdL. Especially
when you see the vast luggage that these tourists take with them. Not
having to cart that across Paris would be a great bonus.

That's a really interesting map!

I hadn't realised how many different destinations there are which receive
"between one and four TGV per day".

I'm a bit confused by the non-Paris Inoui colour codes:
Green: Strasbourg
Grey: Marseille or Lille

or:
Grey: Paris bypass
Green: nowhere near Paris?

The latter, I think.

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