Friday 6 December - the shop will be available from Monday.
Sunday 8 December - mention of getting something from the village shop
(not the church)
Monday 16 December - Susan unlocks the shop to see it all neatly ready
for stocking.
Hazel is the landlord and would simply supply a basic shell. The
shelving would be the choice and cost of the tenant - the shop committee
so how could Susan know nothing about it - Hazel would not waste money
on shop fittings.
How did Hazel not arrange an inspection of the finished works before permitting access? How could she not even have seen photos of the
finished work in this digital age?
Am I alone in thinking that no-one actually cares?
Hazel is the landlord and would simply supply a basic shell. The
shelving would be the choice and cost of the tenant - the shop committee
so how could Susan know nothing about it - Hazel would not waste money
on shop fittings.
Friday 6 December - the shop will be available from Monday.
Sunday 8 December - mention of getting something from the village shop
(not the church)
Monday 16 December - Susan unlocks the shop to see it all neatly ready
for stocking.
Hazel is the landlord and would simply supply a basic shell.-a The
shelving would be the choice and cost of the tenant - the shop committee
so how could Susan know nothing about it - Hazel would not waste money
on shop fittings.
How did Hazel not arrange an inspection of the finished works before permitting access?-a How could she not even have seen photos of the
finished work in this digital age?
Am I alone in thinking that no-one actually cares?
On Dec 18, 2025 at 5:36:29 AM EST, "Kosmo" <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
Hazel is the landlord and would simply supply a basic shell. The
shelving would be the choice and cost of the tenant - the shop committee
so how could Susan know nothing about it - Hazel would not waste money
on shop fittings.
Actually, that isn't the way it works in my experience. I've been involved in a real estate company for a decade now, and for retail environments the landlord provdides shop fittings, etc.
On 18/12/2025 10:36, Kosmo wrote:
Friday 6 December - the shop will be available from Monday.<shrug>
Sunday 8 December - mention of getting something from the village shop (not the church)
Monday 16 December - Susan unlocks the shop to see it all neatly ready for stocking.
Hazel is the landlord and would simply supply a basic shell.-a The shelving would be the
choice and cost of the tenant - the shop committee so how could Susan know nothing about
it - Hazel would not waste money on shop fittings.
How did Hazel not arrange an inspection of the finished works before permitting access?
How could she not even have seen photos of the finished work in this digital age?
Am I alone in thinking that no-one actually cares?
On 18.12.25 12:10, Ben Blaney wrote:
On Dec 18, 2025 at 5:36:29 AM EST, "Kosmo" <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
Hazel is the landlord and would simply supply a basic shell. The
shelving would be the choice and cost of the tenant - the shop committee >>> so how could Susan know nothing about it - Hazel would not waste money
on shop fittings.
Actually, that isn't the way it works in my experience. I've been involved in
a real estate company for a decade now, and for retail environments the
landlord provdides shop fittings, etc.
Really?
I cannot see the likes of Underwoods Local taking on the lease
of a new unit and let the landlord buy the fittings without consultation
and approval. I never rented a property for retail purposes in recent
years but historically a shell was provided and the tenant would be
given a rent free period during which they kitted the place out at their expense. I am surprised any landlord wants the legal liability which
would go with any poorly assembled interior furniture.
On Dec 18, 2025 at 9:25:41 AM EST, "Kosmo" <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
On 18.12.25 12:10, Ben Blaney wrote:
On Dec 18, 2025 at 5:36:29 AM EST, "Kosmo" <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
Hazel is the landlord and would simply supply a basic shell. The
shelving would be the choice and cost of the tenant - the shop committee >>>> so how could Susan know nothing about it - Hazel would not waste money >>>> on shop fittings.
Actually, that isn't the way it works in my experience. I've been involved in
a real estate company for a decade now, and for retail environments the
landlord provdides shop fittings, etc.
Really?
Really. The lease contract specifies the details. If the lease is long enough,
the landlord will pony up. I know of a building which had been used as a hair salon, and in the subsequent lease was repurposed to be a dental surgery - and
the landlord paid for the conversion.
I cannot see the likes of Underwoods Local taking on the lease
of a new unit and let the landlord buy the fittings without consultation
and approval. I never rented a property for retail purposes in recent
years but historically a shell was provided and the tenant would be
given a rent free period during which they kitted the place out at their
expense. I am surprised any landlord wants the legal liability which
would go with any poorly assembled interior furniture.
Easily handled with comprehensive contracts, extensively pored over by expensive lawyers, builders, interior decorators, brand managers, etc etc
Amazing. It implies to me that the landlord knows the rents being
charged are excessive and has to find ways of ameliorating the cost to
make the tenancy worthwhile. If the landlord reduced the rent then the tenant would be keener to take the tenancy and would also enjoy the
lower rates bill as a result. The landlord might take an initial hit on capital value but it looks like they are inflated by the excessive rents being charged which makes the entire property market unstable. No
wonder the high street is dying out.
On Dec 19, 2025 at 4:29:47 AM EST, "Kosmo" <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
Amazing. It implies to me that the landlord knows the rents being
charged are excessive and has to find ways of ameliorating the cost to
make the tenancy worthwhile. If the landlord reduced the rent then the
tenant would be keener to take the tenancy and would also enjoy the
lower rates bill as a result. The landlord might take an initial hit on
capital value but it looks like they are inflated by the excessive rents
being charged which makes the entire property market unstable. No
wonder the high street is dying out.
I think it's the other way round. I think the landlord are so desperate they'll do a very great deal to secure a long-term tenant.
Vacancy rates in
commercial real estate are high - very uncomfortable if you're a landlord. You'll pony up some dough to get the place the way a good tenant wants it...because if you don't they'll go elsewhere
On Dec 19, 2025 at 4:29:47 AM EST, "Kosmo" <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
Amazing. It implies to me that the landlord knows the rents being
charged are excessive and has to find ways of ameliorating the cost to
make the tenancy worthwhile. If the landlord reduced the rent then the
tenant would be keener to take the tenancy and would also enjoy the
lower rates bill as a result. The landlord might take an initial hit on
capital value but it looks like they are inflated by the excessive rents
being charged which makes the entire property market unstable. No
wonder the high street is dying out.
I think it's the other way round. I think the landlord are so desperate they'll do a very great deal to secure a long-term tenant. Vacancy rates in commercial real estate are high - very uncomfortable if you're a landlord. You'll pony up some dough to get the place the way a good tenant wants it...because if you don't they'll go elsewhere
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