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Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
There used to

be light vessels and weather observation ships all aound the oceans
but no loner.

I realise that this thread is now over a month old but,

Those thinly spaced light vessels and weather observation ships have been replaced by weather data constantly being transmitted from the 100rCOs of ships plying the Seas and Oceans and the aircraft flying above them and the Continents .

This is just one company that agrees to do so. <https://www.maersk.com/news/articles/2022/02/07/maersk-vessels-live-feed-meteorologists-around-the-globe-with-weather-data>

This is a short article on the aviation equivalent <https://skybrary.aero/articles/aircraft-meteorological-data-relay-amdar>

That is heck of a lot more information being gathered and sent back
constantly than the 10 or so weather ships that several nations once
operated in the areas where the weather would affect the UK mainly in the Atlantic. The UK had four but not all would be on station together.
Somewhere around 1800 aircraft on average cross the Atlantic each day so
with many of them automatically sending weather data back the amount of information . There is no point in operating dedicated weather ships any
more though various Meteorological agencies including the UK one do deploy
some automatic weather bouys , they send data back by satellite an option
that wasnrCOt available for most of the Atlantic weather ship era which ended in 2010 when the Norwegians withdrew the last one.

GH
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On 12/01/2026 00:59, Marland wrote:

That is heck of a lot more information being gathered and sent back constantly than the 10 or so weather ships that several nations once operated in the areas where the weather would affect the UK mainly in the Atlantic. The UK had four but not all would be on station together.
Somewhere around 1800 aircraft on average cross the Atlantic each day so with many of them automatically sending weather data back the amount of information . There is no point in operating dedicated weather ships any
more though various Meteorological agencies including the UK one do deploy some automatic weather bouys , they send data back by satellite an option that wasnrCOt available for most of the Atlantic weather ship era which ended in 2010 when the Norwegians withdrew the last one.

GH

A ship would give the mainly data available at sea level and the
aircraft would give data available at 32,000 feet and often for a
limited area as they use the jet steam to save on fuel costs.

Irrespective of how much data is collected it comes down to
interpretation for predicting forward weather. Unfortunately so many
weather apps on mobile phones and on short summaries on TV channels give conflicting information which is often incorrect on the day.
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On 12/01/2026 05:53, alan_m wrote:

Irrespective of how much data is collected it comes down to
interpretation for predicting forward weather. Unfortunately so many
weather apps on mobile phones and on short summaries on TV channels give conflicting information which is often incorrect on the day.

The problem is that weather forecasting is incapable of any precision
due to paucity of data and simplicity of the models.

That doesn't stop people expecting it or claiming that they really do
know the future.
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On 12/01/2026 00:59, Marland wrote:

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
There used to

be light vessels and weather observation ships all aound the oceans
but no loner.

I realise that this thread is now over a month old but,

Those thinly spaced light vessels and weather observation ships have been replaced by weather data constantly being transmitted from the 100rCOs of ships plying the Seas and Oceans and the aircraft flying above them and the Continents .

This is just one company that agrees to do so. <https://www.maersk.com/news/articles/2022/02/07/maersk-vessels-live-feed-meteorologists-around-the-globe-with-weather-data>

This is a short article on the aviation equivalent <https://skybrary.aero/articles/aircraft-meteorological-data-relay-amdar>

That is heck of a lot more information being gathered and sent back constantly than the 10 or so weather ships that several nations once operated in the areas where the weather would affect the UK mainly in the Atlantic. The UK had four but not all would be on station together.
Somewhere around 1800 aircraft on average cross the Atlantic each day so with many of them automatically sending weather data back the amount of information . There is no point in operating dedicated weather ships any
more though various Meteorological agencies including the UK one do deploy some automatic weather bouys , they send data back by satellite an option that wasnrCOt available for most of the Atlantic weather ship era which ended in 2010 when the Norwegians withdrew the last one.

The Met Office were certainly using weather buoys with satellite links
in 1978 when I visited the Bracknell site and was shown one on the
bench. There were others at sea sending back data.
John

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alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

Irrespective of how much data is collected it comes down to
interpretation for predicting forward weather.

... not to mention (ensembles of) large and computationally intensive simulations.


#Paul
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On 12/01/2026 11:51, #Paul wrote:

alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

Irrespective of how much data is collected it comes down to
interpretation for predicting forward weather.

... not to mention (ensembles of) large and computationally intensive simulations.

those ARE the 'interpretations'....

#Paul

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