• OT: CCTV problem

    From Andy Smith@a@b.com to uk.d-i-y on Fri Feb 27 20:19:42 2026
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    I have a Hikvision 4-camera plus Network Video Recorder (NVR) system.
    The cameras are all of the PoE (Power over Ethernet) type, and the NVR provides and controls the PoE. In total the cameras draw approximately
    20 to 25W and the NVR is capable of providing 50W, so that's well
    within spec.

    None of the cameras are showing a picture on the monitor screen and the
    NVR says they are not compatible - but it's all been working well for
    years.

    I also have a 4-port network switch in there but I'm not sure if it's
    PoE. My question is, does it have to be?

    The NVR is generating the power for the cameras so I thought that it
    should all work because the switch is only passing the signal through
    and isn't really anything to do with what the signal is.

    So, do I need a PoE-compatible switch or not?
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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.d-i-y on Fri Feb 27 22:12:24 2026
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    On 27/02/2026 20:19, Andy Smith wrote:
    I have a Hikvision 4-camera plus Network Video Recorder (NVR) system.
    The cameras are all of the PoE (Power over Ethernet) type, and the NVR provides and controls the PoE. In total the cameras draw approximately
    20 to 25W and the NVR is capable of providing 50W, so that's well within spec.

    None of the cameras are showing a picture on the monitor screen and the
    NVR says they are not compatible - but it's all been working well for
    years.

    I also have a 4-port network switch in there but I'm not sure if it's
    PoE. My question is, does it have to be?

    The NVR is generating the power for the cameras so I thought that it
    should all work because the switch is only passing the signal through
    and isn't really anything to do with what the signal is.

    So, do I need a PoE-compatible switch or not?

    Did the problem start when you inserted the 4-port switch? If not, what changed between it working and it no longer working?

    <https://support.huawei.com/enterprise/en/doc/DOC1000091883/d94e5308/determining-whether-a-switch-supports-the-poe-function>
    implies that not all switches support PoE, though I can't work out
    whether "supports" means "supplies power itself" or "allows power
    supplied elsewhere to be passed from input port to the 4 output ports".
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Fri Feb 27 17:15:12 2026
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    On Fri, 2/27/2026 3:19 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
    I have a Hikvision 4-camera plus Network Video Recorder (NVR) system.
    The cameras are all of the PoE (Power over Ethernet) type, and the
    NVR provides and controls the PoE. In total the cameras draw approximately 20 to 25W and the NVR is capable of providing 50W, so that's well within spec.

    None of the cameras are showing a picture on the monitor screen and the NVR says they are not compatible - but it's all been working well for years.

    I also have a 4-port network switch in there but I'm not sure if it's PoE. My question is, does it have to be?

    The NVR is generating the power for the cameras so I thought that it should all work because the switch is only passing the signal through and isn't really anything to do with what the signal is.

    So, do I need a PoE-compatible switch or not?

    That would be a good idea.

    Example of an NVR with 56 watts of POE available

    https://www.trendnet.com/store/products/8-port-nvr/8-channel-h265-4k-8mp-uhd-poe-nvr-TV-NVR1508

    Examples of interconnect.

    POE
    |------- POE-CAM (works)
    NVR |------- POE-CAM (works)
    |------- POE-CAM (works)
    |------- POE-CAM (works)

    No POE # Even with POE-Passthrough, a single port
    Passthru # from the source will not shove all available
    POE 30W |------- POE-CAM (no power) # power through one output port. For example
    |------- switch|------- POE-CAM (no power) # only 30W of 60W capacity, through one port.
    NVR |---/ |------- POE-CAM (no power)
    |---/ |------- POE-CAM (no power)
    |---/

    Or use a device with its own POE source. This product is apparently out
    of production. I tried to find a picture of the adapter the switch
    uses, but was not successful.

    https://www.dlink.com/uk/en/products/dgs-1005p-5port-desktop-gigabit-poeplus-switch

    External 53.5V @ 1.2A power adapter

    Local
    POE
    POE |------- POE-CAM (works)
    |------- switch|------- POE-CAM (works)
    NVR |---/ |------- POE-CAM (works)
    |---/ |------- POE-CAM (works)
    |---/


    You can also use injectors on the right hand side of the switch,
    to power the cameras. Which would be a mess of wires,
    but otherwise OK. The main advantage of the injector, would
    be independent failures on powering (shorting one camera won't
    affect the other cameras).

    One of the reasons things like this are possible, is because
    the up-to-four-twisted-pairs are transformer isolated.
    This allows some tricks to pass additional functions (across 1,2,3,6)

    It's hard to say where the ground reference is, in these pictures :-)
    Maybe someone who has installed stuff like this can comment
    on what they did and why.

    Paul
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sat Feb 28 07:10:53 2026
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    Andy Smith wrote:

    The NVR is generating the power for the cameras so I thought that it
    should all work because the switch is only passing the signal through
    and isn't really anything to do with what the signal is.

    So, do I need a PoE-compatible switch or not?

    There are some exceptions but if you plug the cameras into a switch,
    that switch needs to provide PoE.

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  • From Andy Smith@a@b.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Feb 28 14:27:36 2026
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    Andy Smith pretended :
    I have a Hikvision 4-camera plus Network Video Recorder (NVR) system. The cameras are all of the PoE (Power over Ethernet) type, and the NVR provides and controls the PoE. In total the cameras draw approximately 20 to 25W and the NVR is capable of providing 50W, so that's well within spec.

    None of the cameras are showing a picture on the monitor screen and the NVR says they are not compatible - but it's all been working well for years.

    I also have a 4-port network switch in there but I'm not sure if it's PoE. My
    question is, does it have to be?

    The NVR is generating the power for the cameras so I thought that it should all work because the switch is only passing the signal through and isn't really anything to do with what the signal is.

    So, do I need a PoE-compatible switch or not?

    Thanks guys
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