• Insolent Cars

    From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 14:59:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y


    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The only thing Flat Earthers fear is sphere itself.
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  • From nib@news@ingram-bromley.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 15:17:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 2026-02-19 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Getting to be par for the course. Mine tells me to keep my hands on the
    wheel when as far as I can tell they never left it.

    nib
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 15:23:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    nib wrote:

    On 2026-02-19 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up
    a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Getting to be par for the course. Mine tells me to keep my hands on the wheel when as far as I can tell they never left it.
    Mine tells me to look forwards


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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 15:30:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Costa coffee locations programmed into your Sat Nav and selected as
    places of interest?
    --
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 15:32:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 15:23, Andy Burns wrote:
    nib wrote:

    On 2026-02-19 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Getting to be par for the course. Mine tells me to keep my hands on
    the wheel when as far as I can tell they never left it.
    Mine tells me to look forwards



    Do these messages actually improve safety or do the exact opposite by distracting the driver?
    --
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 15:55:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.
    --
    My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub
    wish to copy them they can pay me -u1 a message.
    Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
    *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor
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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 15:59:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    I thought you were going to give us a tale about some people not realising
    the tide was coming in at Keyhaven.

    GH

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  • From Joe@joe@jretrading.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 16:06:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19 Feb 2026 15:55:07 GMT
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.

    But are they programmed with the locations of the potholes you're
    avoiding?
    --
    Joe

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 16:10:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    It did that because you had been driving 20mph under the speed limit
    --
    In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone
    gets full Marx.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 16:11:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 15:32, alan_m wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 15:23, Andy Burns wrote:
    nib wrote:

    On 2026-02-19 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee. >>>>
    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Getting to be par for the course. Mine tells me to keep my hands on
    the wheel when as far as I can tell they never left it.
    Mine tells me to look forwards



    Do these messages actually improve safety or do the exact opposite by distracting the driver?

    Now apply that question to all the road furniture
    --
    In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone
    gets full Marx.

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  • From Adrian@diy@ku.gro.lioff to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 16:13:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    In message <mvoq2rF55hU2@mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
    <news0009@eager.cx> writes
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a
    message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.


    But overlook the presence of potholes and/or large puddles.

    Adrian
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 17:12:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 16:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 15:32, alan_m wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 15:23, Andy Burns wrote:
    nib wrote:

    On 2026-02-19 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw >>>>> up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Getting to be par for the course. Mine tells me to keep my hands on
    the wheel when as far as I can tell they never left it.
    Mine tells me to look forwards



    Do these messages actually improve safety or do the exact opposite by
    distracting the driver?

    Now apply that question to all the road furniture


    I have seen (summaries of) reports that indicate too many road signs or roadside signs of all types when installed fairly close together are
    more of a safety hindrance than a help. The same reports indicated that
    at night pedestrian crossings beacons were harder to see with badly
    placed street lighting giving a shorter reaction time margin.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 17:15:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    alan_m wrote:

    Do these messages actually improve safety or do the exact opposite by distracting the driver?
    The opposite, sometimes it expects you to read a couple of sentences of explanation on the dashboard when trying to adjust the speed-limiter/cruise-control/radar-adaptive-cruise settings, and it
    doesn't like what you're trying to do!

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  • From Peter Johnson@peter@parksidewood.nospam to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 17:16:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:


    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a >message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    My Ford Puma does it when I've only been driving for a few minutes,
    but not every time.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 12:29:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 2/19/2026 9:59 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Apparently if you drop a covering over the camera that
    looks at your face, that converts the warning
    from "consider taking a break" to "driver attention monitor disabled"
    warning :-)

    # Around 1:38

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb4d0CC-VAo

    Another possibility is to disable "lane keeping assist"
    so the car isn't looking at the lane markers so much.

    Paul
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Thu Feb 19 18:06:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 16:06, Joe wrote:
    On 19 Feb 2026 15:55:07 GMT
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.

    But are they programmed with the locations of the potholes you're
    avoiding?

    Or perhaps the concept of "the rolling English road" is unfamilair to
    the designers?
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Dan Green@dhg99908@hotmail.se to uk.d-i-y on Fri Feb 20 18:12:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19 Feb 2026 15:55:07 GMT, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a
    message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.

    Mine tells me I should check my mirrors more often.
    WTH thought all this shit up?
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  • From mbailey888@mbailey888@protonmail.com to uk.d-i-y on Sat Feb 21 13:43:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:12:11 +0000, Dan Green <dhg99908@hotmail.se>
    wrote:

    On 19 Feb 2026 15:55:07 GMT, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a >>> message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.

    Mine tells me I should check my mirrors more often.

    If it's smart enough to do that, it should also be checking rearwards
    for you.

    WTH thought all this shit up?

    Sum kunt with too much time on his hands.
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  • From news20k.noreply@news20k.noreply@threeformcow.myzen.co.uk (#Paul) to uk.d-i-y on Sat Feb 21 20:21:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    Or maybe an advert of some kind? :-)

    #Paul
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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 12:32:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 15:55, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a
    message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.



    VW /Audi did the opposite to instruct the ECU to cheat the
    emissions when no steering-wheel movement was detected :-(

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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 12:38:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 18:06, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 16:06, Joe wrote:
    On 19 Feb 2026 15:55:07 GMT
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.

    But are they programmed with the locations of the potholes you're
    avoiding?

    Or perhaps the concept of "the rolling English road" is unfamilair to
    the designers?


    Well, Siemens built a railway test track in Germany that mimicked the
    defects known to be encountered by their rolling stock when used on
    actual British tracks, so that they could identify problems before the
    trains went into service.

    A Hitachi train-set developed cracks in its welded aluminium
    monocoque carriage design because they (presumably) failed to take
    similar precautions before using a design that never caused such
    issues in Japan, on UK tracks.
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  • From Jeff Gaines@jgnewsid@outlook.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 12:42:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 in message <mvoq2rF55hU2@mid.individual.net> Bob Eager wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a >>message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.

    Their manufacturers have never had to play dodge the pothole :-(
    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    This joke was so funny when I heard it for the first time I fell of my dinosaur.
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 14:23:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 22/02/2026 12:32, Andrew wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 15:55, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw up a >>> message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.



    VW /Audi did the opposite to instruct the ECU to cheat the
    emissions when no steering-wheel movement was detected :-(

    Would seem perfectly reasonable to limit pollution from vehicles stuck
    in traffic:-)


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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 14:34:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 13:43:04 +0000
    mbailey888@protonmail.com wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:12:11 +0000, Dan Green <dhg99908@hotmail.se>
    wrote:

    On 19 Feb 2026 15:55:07 GMT, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto
    threw up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a
    cup of coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?

    I think some car systems detect excessive wandering of steering.

    Mine tells me I should check my mirrors more often.

    If it's smart enough to do that, it should also be checking rearwards
    for you.

    WTH thought all this shit up?

    Sum kunt with too much time on his hands.

    "We can do it, so we will do it. Stop complaining".
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 14:36:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 GMT
    "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Did it tell you where the nearest Public Toilet was so you could get
    rid of it after you had finished with it?
    --
    Davey.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 14:46:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 22/02/2026 14:34, Davey wrote:
    Sum kunt with too much time on his hands.
    "We can do it, so we will do it. Stop complaining".

    WE wont do what is needed, because its difficult.
    We wont do what is wanted, because we know better.
    We will do what is easy, so we look like we are doing something
    --
    The New Left are the people they warned you about.

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  • From Jack Harry Teesdale@noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 15:30:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 19/02/2026 15:32, alan_m wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 15:23, Andy Burns wrote:
    nib wrote:

    On 2026-02-19 14:59, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of coffee. >>>>
    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Getting to be par for the course. Mine tells me to keep my hands on
    the wheel when as far as I can tell they never left it.
    Mine tells me to look forwards



    Do these messages actually improve safety or do the exact opposite by distracting the driver?


    No but they are intended to absolve the manufacturer from claims by the driving public who may crash because they have not followed the advice!
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 18:48:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 22/02/2026 14:36, Davey wrote:
    On 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 GMT
    "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Did it tell you where the nearest Public Toilet was so you could get
    rid of it after you had finished with it?

    Probably direct you to another coffee shop so you can use their
    facilities - whilst buying another cup of coffee.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 21:29:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:48:22 +0000
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 14:36, Davey wrote:
    On 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 GMT
    "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Did it tell you where the nearest Public Toilet was so you could get
    rid of it after you had finished with it?

    Probably direct you to another coffee shop so you can use their
    facilities - whilst buying another cup of coffee.


    Perpetual Motion in action.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From David Wade@g4ugm@dave.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Sun Feb 22 22:12:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.d-i-y

    On 22/02/2026 18:48, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 22/02/2026 14:36, Davey wrote:
    On 19 Feb 2026 14:59:03 GMT
    "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Drove to the next town earlier, during the journey my Picanto threw
    up a message "Consider taking a break" with an icon of a cup of
    coffee.

    Is this just a gratuitous insult?


    Did it tell you where the nearest Public Toilet was so you could get
    rid of it after you had finished with it?

    Probably direct you to another coffee shop so you can use their
    facilities - whilst buying another cup of coffee.

    If it didn't do this its would lower its NCAP safety rating and probably increase your insurance premium...

    Dave
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