• Dairy infection more wide spread than initially reported

    From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Feb 6 09:57:38 2026
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    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/federal-testing-improves-detection-h5n1-avian-flu-us-dairy-herds

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/32/2/25-1332_article

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that published the
    study that H5N1 could survive the most common method of pasteurization.
    The FDA claimed that they were going to test that observation in order
    to insure a safe milk supply, but the testing was never started. No processing plants producing virus containing milk products was ever
    tested to see if the virus could survive pasteurization. The Missouri
    patient and one of the California children that was infected only had
    the pasteurized dairy products that they consumed to link them to the
    dairy virus that infected them. Both Missouri infections consumed the
    same batch of dairy products before becoming ill (they lived in the same household).

    For this report the Ohio researchers reanalyzed the FDAs original
    testing of milk products, and have come to the conclusion that I came to
    at the time. 13 states were producing infected milk products, but 5 of
    them were not reporting infected dairy cattle at the time, and only 29
    herds had been verified to be infected across the nation. The
    researchers conclude that the dairy infection was more wide spread than
    was being reported at the time, but the CDC and USDA never acted on FDA
    data, and did not start testing cattle in those states at that time. It
    is just part of the stupidity of the CDC and USDA attempts to contain
    the infection and prevent the next pandemic. They were just lucky that
    the dairy virus was not very pathogenic in humans. It was lethal to
    other mammals, but the humans infected showed only mild or no symptoms,
    while it infected the brains of cats and killed them. If it had been infecting the brains of dairy workers we would have likely seen a very different response instead of the political pussy footing and denial of reality that was observed.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Feb 6 14:01:04 2026
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    On 2/6/2026 9:57 AM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/federal-testing- improves-detection-h5n1-avian-flu-us-dairy-herds

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/32/2/25-1332_article

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that published the
    study that H5N1 could survive the most common method of pasteurization.
    The FDA claimed that they were going to test that observation in order
    to insure a safe milk supply, but the testing was never started.-a No processing plants producing virus containing milk products was ever
    tested to see if the virus could survive pasteurization.-a The Missouri patient and one of the California children that was infected only had
    the pasteurized dairy products that they consumed to link them to the
    dairy virus that infected them.-a Both Missouri infections consumed the
    same batch of dairy products before becoming ill (they lived in the same household).

    For this report the Ohio researchers reanalyzed the FDAs original
    testing of milk products, and have come to the conclusion that I came to
    at the time.-a 13 states were producing infected milk products, but 5 of them were not reporting infected dairy cattle at the time, and only 29
    herds had been verified to be infected across the nation.-a The
    researchers conclude that the dairy infection was more wide spread than
    was being reported at the time, but the CDC and USDA never acted on FDA data, and did not start testing cattle in those states at that time.-a It
    is just part of the stupidity of the CDC and USDA attempts to contain
    the infection and prevent the next pandemic.-a They were just lucky that
    the dairy virus was not very pathogenic in humans.-a It was lethal to
    other mammals, but the humans infected showed only mild or no symptoms, while it infected the brains of cats and killed them.-a If it had been infecting the brains of dairy workers we would have likely seen a very different response instead of the political pussy footing and denial of reality that was observed.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/more-avian-flu-outbreaks-pennsylvania-colorado

    They are not releasing the genotypes, so we do not know how these
    infections are related. The 1.3 million layer flock in Colorado should
    be investigated because Colorado is one of the states that started to
    get reinfected dairy herds, but the USDA is not listing reinfected herds
    as being currently infected, so we don't know where the reinfected herds
    are nor how many there are.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Feb 9 15:53:18 2026
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    On 2/6/2026 2:01 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 2/6/2026 9:57 AM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/federal-testing-
    improves-detection-h5n1-avian-flu-us-dairy-herds

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/32/2/25-1332_article

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that published the
    study that H5N1 could survive the most common method of
    pasteurization. The FDA claimed that they were going to test that
    observation in order to insure a safe milk supply, but the testing was
    never started.-a No processing plants producing virus containing milk
    products was ever tested to see if the virus could survive
    pasteurization.-a The Missouri patient and one of the California
    children that was infected only had the pasteurized dairy products
    that they consumed to link them to the dairy virus that infected
    them.-a Both Missouri infections consumed the same batch of dairy
    products before becoming ill (they lived in the same household).

    For this report the Ohio researchers reanalyzed the FDAs original
    testing of milk products, and have come to the conclusion that I came
    to at the time.-a 13 states were producing infected milk products, but
    5 of them were not reporting infected dairy cattle at the time, and
    only 29 herds had been verified to be infected across the nation.-a The
    researchers conclude that the dairy infection was more wide spread
    than was being reported at the time, but the CDC and USDA never acted
    on FDA data, and did not start testing cattle in those states at that
    time.-a It is just part of the stupidity of the CDC and USDA attempts
    to contain the infection and prevent the next pandemic.-a They were
    just lucky that the dairy virus was not very pathogenic in humans.-a It
    was lethal to other mammals, but the humans infected showed only mild
    or no symptoms, while it infected the brains of cats and killed them.
    If it had been infecting the brains of dairy workers we would have
    likely seen a very different response instead of the political pussy
    footing and denial of reality that was observed.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/more-avian-flu- outbreaks-pennsylvania-colorado

    They are not releasing the genotypes, so we do not know how these
    infections are related.-a The 1.3 million layer flock in Colorado should
    be investigated because Colorado is one of the states that started to
    get reinfected dairy herds, but the USDA is not listing reinfected herds
    as being currently infected, so we don't know where the reinfected herds
    are nor how many there are.

    Ron Okimoto


    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/avian-flu-behind-mass-skua-die-antarctica-scientists-say

    A study is claiming that the 2023 and 2024 skuas die offs in antarctica
    was due to H5N1. They don't identify the genotype, but claim that the
    same H5N1 has killed 400 million poultry world wide and the South
    American sea mammals, so it is the Asian H5N1 strain that the dairy
    virus (genotype B3.13) has the Asian H5 and N1 genes of that virus and
    is included as part of that infection. South American sea mammals were
    also known to have been infected by the dairy virus. The virus that
    killed the Skuas did not kill the associated sea mammals, so it is
    unlikely to have been the dairy genotype that is known to be lethal in
    sea mammals and other mammals like skunks and cats.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Feb 12 16:58:21 2026
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    On 2/6/2026 9:57 AM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/federal-testing- improves-detection-h5n1-avian-flu-us-dairy-herds

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/32/2/25-1332_article

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that published the
    study that H5N1 could survive the most common method of pasteurization.
    The FDA claimed that they were going to test that observation in order
    to insure a safe milk supply, but the testing was never started.-a No processing plants producing virus containing milk products was ever
    tested to see if the virus could survive pasteurization.-a The Missouri patient and one of the California children that was infected only had
    the pasteurized dairy products that they consumed to link them to the
    dairy virus that infected them.-a Both Missouri infections consumed the
    same batch of dairy products before becoming ill (they lived in the same household).

    For this report the Ohio researchers reanalyzed the FDAs original
    testing of milk products, and have come to the conclusion that I came to
    at the time.-a 13 states were producing infected milk products, but 5 of them were not reporting infected dairy cattle at the time, and only 29
    herds had been verified to be infected across the nation.-a The
    researchers conclude that the dairy infection was more wide spread than
    was being reported at the time, but the CDC and USDA never acted on FDA data, and did not start testing cattle in those states at that time.-a It
    is just part of the stupidity of the CDC and USDA attempts to contain
    the infection and prevent the next pandemic.-a They were just lucky that
    the dairy virus was not very pathogenic in humans.-a It was lethal to
    other mammals, but the humans infected showed only mild or no symptoms, while it infected the brains of cats and killed them.-a If it had been infecting the brains of dairy workers we would have likely seen a very different response instead of the political pussy footing and denial of reality that was observed.

    Ron Okimoto


    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/lancaster-county-pennsylvania-tracks-more-commercial-bird-flu-commercial

    More commercial farms have gone down with influenza infections in Pennsylvania. They should have been contact tracing and testing farm
    workers since day one, but refuse to face the reality of how the virus
    is likely spreading from farm to farm and from county to county in PA.
    More commercial poultry farms have been infected in California. There
    are still infected dairies in California, but they are not saying what
    virus has infected the flocks, and they continue to not restrict dairy
    worker movements off infected farms. A cat in New Jersey has been
    infected. They are not releasing the genotype so we do not know how the infections are related.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Feb 20 18:17:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 2/6/2026 9:57 AM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/federal-testing- improves-detection-h5n1-avian-flu-us-dairy-herds

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/32/2/25-1332_article

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that published the
    study that H5N1 could survive the most common method of pasteurization.
    The FDA claimed that they were going to test that observation in order
    to insure a safe milk supply, but the testing was never started.-a No processing plants producing virus containing milk products was ever
    tested to see if the virus could survive pasteurization.-a The Missouri patient and one of the California children that was infected only had
    the pasteurized dairy products that they consumed to link them to the
    dairy virus that infected them.-a Both Missouri infections consumed the
    same batch of dairy products before becoming ill (they lived in the same household).

    For this report the Ohio researchers reanalyzed the FDAs original
    testing of milk products, and have come to the conclusion that I came to
    at the time.-a 13 states were producing infected milk products, but 5 of them were not reporting infected dairy cattle at the time, and only 29
    herds had been verified to be infected across the nation.-a The
    researchers conclude that the dairy infection was more wide spread than
    was being reported at the time, but the CDC and USDA never acted on FDA data, and did not start testing cattle in those states at that time.-a It
    is just part of the stupidity of the CDC and USDA attempts to contain
    the infection and prevent the next pandemic.-a They were just lucky that
    the dairy virus was not very pathogenic in humans.-a It was lethal to
    other mammals, but the humans infected showed only mild or no symptoms, while it infected the brains of cats and killed them.-a If it had been infecting the brains of dairy workers we would have likely seen a very different response instead of the political pussy footing and denial of reality that was observed.

    Ron Okimoto


    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/avian-flu-continues-spread-pennsylvania-egg-turkey-facilities

    The virus is still spreading in Pennsylvania. More poultry farms infected.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Feb 25 18:44:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 2/6/2026 9:57 AM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/federal-testing- improves-detection-h5n1-avian-flu-us-dairy-herds

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/32/2/25-1332_article

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that published the
    study that H5N1 could survive the most common method of pasteurization.
    The FDA claimed that they were going to test that observation in order
    to insure a safe milk supply, but the testing was never started.-a No processing plants producing virus containing milk products was ever
    tested to see if the virus could survive pasteurization.-a The Missouri patient and one of the California children that was infected only had
    the pasteurized dairy products that they consumed to link them to the
    dairy virus that infected them.-a Both Missouri infections consumed the
    same batch of dairy products before becoming ill (they lived in the same household).

    For this report the Ohio researchers reanalyzed the FDAs original
    testing of milk products, and have come to the conclusion that I came to
    at the time.-a 13 states were producing infected milk products, but 5 of them were not reporting infected dairy cattle at the time, and only 29
    herds had been verified to be infected across the nation.-a The
    researchers conclude that the dairy infection was more wide spread than
    was being reported at the time, but the CDC and USDA never acted on FDA data, and did not start testing cattle in those states at that time.-a It
    is just part of the stupidity of the CDC and USDA attempts to contain
    the infection and prevent the next pandemic.-a They were just lucky that
    the dairy virus was not very pathogenic in humans.-a It was lethal to
    other mammals, but the humans infected showed only mild or no symptoms, while it infected the brains of cats and killed them.-a If it had been infecting the brains of dairy workers we would have likely seen a very different response instead of the political pussy footing and denial of reality that was observed.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Animal_Health/HPAI.html

    California still has dairies being infected. The last update over 2
    months ago only had half a dozen dairies still under quarantine, and all
    of those should have gone off quarantine by now. They have an
    underhanded way of admitting that they have had 2 new dairy infections
    because they note that 2 of the four dairies under quarantine are new infections ("under original detection quarantine") so the other two must
    be reinfections. The USDA did not note these two new infections. There
    can't be very many herds left in California that remain uninfected. It
    is crazy that herds are still being infected. California never put a quarantine on dairy worker movements off infected farms, and this is
    likely why the virus spread to so many dairies, and is still infecting
    new herds. My guess is that if they check the remaining "uninfected"
    herds that they would have H5 antibodies, and were infected and cleared
    the virus before they started the bulk milk tank testing. Herds are
    likely being reinfected because the virus has changed enough to reinfect
    a herd that cleared the virus.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Feb 25 19:12:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 2/6/2026 9:57 AM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/federal-testing- improves-detection-h5n1-avian-flu-us-dairy-herds

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/32/2/25-1332_article

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that published the
    study that H5N1 could survive the most common method of pasteurization.
    The FDA claimed that they were going to test that observation in order
    to insure a safe milk supply, but the testing was never started.-a No processing plants producing virus containing milk products was ever
    tested to see if the virus could survive pasteurization.-a The Missouri patient and one of the California children that was infected only had
    the pasteurized dairy products that they consumed to link them to the
    dairy virus that infected them.-a Both Missouri infections consumed the
    same batch of dairy products before becoming ill (they lived in the same household).

    For this report the Ohio researchers reanalyzed the FDAs original
    testing of milk products, and have come to the conclusion that I came to
    at the time.-a 13 states were producing infected milk products, but 5 of them were not reporting infected dairy cattle at the time, and only 29
    herds had been verified to be infected across the nation.-a The
    researchers conclude that the dairy infection was more wide spread than
    was being reported at the time, but the CDC and USDA never acted on FDA data, and did not start testing cattle in those states at that time.-a It
    is just part of the stupidity of the CDC and USDA attempts to contain
    the infection and prevent the next pandemic.-a They were just lucky that
    the dairy virus was not very pathogenic in humans.-a It was lethal to
    other mammals, but the humans infected showed only mild or no symptoms, while it infected the brains of cats and killed them.-a If it had been infecting the brains of dairy workers we would have likely seen a very different response instead of the political pussy footing and denial of reality that was observed.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://abcnews.com/Health/wireStory/bird-flu-outbreak-california-elephant-seals-prompts-officials-130507758


    Elephant seals in Calif. have been infected with H5N1 by initial
    screening, but tests on some of the animals is still pending.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Feb 26 16:07:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 2/25/26 8:12 PM, RonO wrote:

    The report was published in the same CDC newsletter that

    Though I respect your enthusiasm, I regret that it's focused
    on delivering uncharted emergency powers on Trump, instead of
    something useful... or at least something incorporates the
    lessons of 2020 you should have learned...

    But Jesus still loves you, even if nobody else wants a damn
    thing to do with you, so there's still hope. In theory.

    Say, what were the lessons of 2020?

    What did the politicians you mistook for medical experts get
    wrong?

    What would YOU do differently, if you could transport yourself
    back to 2020 and call all the shots?


    {Crickets chirping}

    Yeah, if only thinking were as easy as copying & pasting major
    media stories you never read, much less understood...

    *Hugs!*
    --
    https://jtem.tumblr.com/

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