https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-severity- new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056<Quote>
The article claims that there have already been 49,000 hopitializations
and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.
On 12/20/25 9:57 PM, RonO wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-severity-<Quote>
new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.
Every year, influenza viruses cause an estimated 9.2rCo35.6 million influenza-related infections, 139 000rCo708 000 hospitalizations,
and 12 000rCo56 000 deaths in the United States [1].
</Quote>
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11175696/
Why do you keep spreading panic?
The virus you describe can't exist, at least not natural. So it's
either a hoax or another Plandemic. Either way, you're serving the
1% and not any of us.
On 12/21/2025 3:26 PM, JTEM wrote:>> <Quote>
On 12/20/25 9:57 PM, RonO wrote:
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.
Every year, influenza viruses cause an estimated 9.2rCo35.6 million
influenza-related infections, 139 000rCo708 000 hospitalizations,
and 12 000rCo56 000 deaths in the United States [1].
</Quote>
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11175696/
Why do you keep spreading panic?
The virus you describe can't exist, at least not natural. So it's
either a hoax or another Plandemic. Either way, you're serving the
1% and not any of us.
You need to deal with reality.
On 12/21/2025 3:26 PM, JTEM wrote:
On 12/20/25 9:57 PM, RonO wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-severity-<Quote>
new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.
Every year, influenza viruses cause an estimated 9.2rCo35.6 million influenza-related infections, 139 000rCo708 000 hospitalizations,
and 12 000rCo56 000 deaths in the United States [1].
</Quote>
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11175696/
Why do you keep spreading panic?
The virus you describe can't exist, at least not natural. So it's
either a hoax or another Plandemic. Either way, you're serving the
1% and not any of us.
You need to deal with reality. Do you even know what you are claiming?
I have already put up the articles claiming that Japan and Europe are
seeing the same thing with the K Strain, and it is a virus that is not closely related to any of the vaccine strains used for this years
vaccine. They are observing elevated hospitalizations, and the NBC news article was claiming 1900 deaths this early in the flu season. The 2025-2026 season started data collection Sept 28th.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/influenza-general/us-flu-activity-takes-big-jump-2-deaths-kids-confirmed
This is another news piece about the same data. Vaccination isn't going
to do much against the K strain. All the world can hope for is that the
K strain isn't highly pathogenic and mortality will be limited. The
largest effect of vaccination is reducing the number of
hospitalizations, but we can't rely on the existing vaccine to do that.
That isn't spreading panic that is just telling things like they are.
The only thing that we can do about the current situation is produce an
mRNA vaccine against the K strain, but that likely isn't going to happen because my guess is that it would only save about as many people as
normally die in car accidents every year, and that isn't enough
incentive to act.
Emotionally unstable, intellectually challenged, RonO wrote:
On 12/21/2025 3:26 PM, JTEM wrote:
On 12/20/25 9:57 PM, RonO wrote:
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.
<Quote>
Every year, influenza viruses cause an estimated 9.2rCo35.6 million
influenza-related infections, 139 000rCo708 000 hospitalizations,
and 12 000rCo56 000 deaths in the United States [1].
</Quote>
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11175696/
Why do you keep spreading panic?
The virus you describe can't exist, at least not natural. So it's
either a hoax or another Plandemic. Either way, you're serving the
1% and not any of us.
You need to deal with reality.
Like how if we divide the 56k worst cases we might expect by your
1,900 figure that works out to either 29 months in a single year
or nothing approaching a bad flu year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-severity- new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056
The article claims that there have already been 49,000 hopitializations
and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.-a Depending on what they are counting this could be a really tragic year.-a They count the influenza mortality two different ways.-a Most of the time they are referring to
the 20,000 to 50,000 annual deaths that we observe associated with influenza, but this number includes a lot of people that got the flu,
but died of pneumonia.-a For the 2023-2024 flu season we had 45,000
deaths for flu and pneumonia, but only 4,000 cases claimed for Influenza
as a separate category even though most of the 45,000 deaths were
triggered by influenza.-a This is why it is important to know what classification that 1,900 number is.-a If it is for influenza mortality
that would mean that around half the mortality of the entire 23-24 flu season has already occurred.-a If it is counting the infected that died
of pneumonia then it isn't so bad, but the K strain seems to be more virulent and is sending more people to the hospital than past strains.
Data collection started September 28, 2025, and we are just entering the peak season from Dec to Feb.-a If they are just counting the influenza mortality and not influenza and pneumonia this looks like it is going to
be a very bad year.
RFK canceling the mRNA influenza vaccine looks like a very big mistake.
The mRNA trial had just been completed and the mRNA vaccine was found to
be more effective than the killed virus vaccine, likely because they had chosen wrong for the vaccine strains and the vaccine strains were not a
good match for the major virus infecting people.-a The mRNA vaccine could have been made for the K strain, and likely would have been more
effective than the current vaccine because WHO and the CDC chose wrong again, and a virus similar enough to the K strain was not included in
this season's vaccine.
Ron Okimoto
On 12/20/2025 8:57 PM, RonO wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-severity-
new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.-a Depending on
what they are counting this could be a really tragic year.-a They count
the influenza mortality two different ways.-a Most of the time they are
referring to the 20,000 to 50,000 annual deaths that we observe
associated with influenza, but this number includes a lot of people
that got the flu, but died of pneumonia.-a For the 2023-2024 flu season
we had 45,000 deaths for flu and pneumonia, but only 4,000 cases
claimed for Influenza as a separate category even though most of the
45,000 deaths were triggered by influenza.-a This is why it is
important to know what classification that 1,900 number is.-a If it is
for influenza mortality that would mean that around half the mortality
of the entire 23-24 flu season has already occurred.-a If it is
counting the infected that died of pneumonia then it isn't so bad, but
the K strain seems to be more virulent and is sending more people to
the hospital than past strains.
Data collection started September 28, 2025, and we are just entering
the peak season from Dec to Feb.-a If they are just counting the
influenza mortality and not influenza and pneumonia this looks like it
is going to be a very bad year.
RFK canceling the mRNA influenza vaccine looks like a very big
mistake. The mRNA trial had just been completed and the mRNA vaccine
was found to be more effective than the killed virus vaccine, likely
because they had chosen wrong for the vaccine strains and the vaccine
strains were not a good match for the major virus infecting people.
The mRNA vaccine could have been made for the K strain, and likely
would have been more effective than the current vaccine because WHO
and the CDC chose wrong again, and a virus similar enough to the K
strain was not included in this season's vaccine.
Ron Okimoto
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-season-cases-rise-cdc-data-doctors-visits/
https://www.cdc.gov/fluview/surveillance/2025-week-52.html
This is the highest hospitalization rate this early in the flu season
since 1997.-a The CDC is now claiming 5,000 deaths from flu.-a This is up over 3,000 from 2 weeks ago (1900).-a What CDC mortality measure is important, but the CDC isn't clear about what they are claiming.-a The
CDC has several ways to track flu mortality.-a Where flu is the cause of death is the one category.-a This category had only 4,000 deaths in the entire 2023-2024 flu seasons.-a If this is what the the CDC is talking
about this is going to be a very bad year.-a The CDC also has a category where flu was a major influence in the death and that was around 23,000.
-aThey also have a category of influenza and Pneumonia (45,000 deaths in 2023-2024) because most of the influenza mortality is due to pneumonia triggered by the influenza infection.-a So if we already have 5,000
deaths caused by the flu this is going to be a very bad year if the CDC
is using the first category classification.
Because the chose the wrong vaccine strains again this year, vaccination
is not expected to do much against the K strain that is infecting most people around the world at this time.
Ron Okimoto
On 1/6/2026 11:52 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/20/2025 8:57 PM, RonO wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-severity-
new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.-a Depending on >>> what they are counting this could be a really tragic year.-a They count >>> the influenza mortality two different ways.-a Most of the time they are >>> referring to the 20,000 to 50,000 annual deaths that we observe
associated with influenza, but this number includes a lot of people
that got the flu, but died of pneumonia.-a For the 2023-2024 flu season >>> we had 45,000 deaths for flu and pneumonia, but only 4,000 cases
claimed for Influenza as a separate category even though most of the
45,000 deaths were triggered by influenza.-a This is why it is
important to know what classification that 1,900 number is.-a If it is
for influenza mortality that would mean that around half the mortality
of the entire 23-24 flu season has already occurred.-a If it is
counting the infected that died of pneumonia then it isn't so bad, but
the K strain seems to be more virulent and is sending more people to
the hospital than past strains.
Data collection started September 28, 2025, and we are just entering
the peak season from Dec to Feb.-a If they are just counting the
influenza mortality and not influenza and pneumonia this looks like it
is going to be a very bad year.
RFK canceling the mRNA influenza vaccine looks like a very big
mistake. The mRNA trial had just been completed and the mRNA vaccine
was found to be more effective than the killed virus vaccine, likely
because they had chosen wrong for the vaccine strains and the vaccine
strains were not a good match for the major virus infecting people.
The mRNA vaccine could have been made for the K strain, and likely
would have been more effective than the current vaccine because WHO
and the CDC chose wrong again, and a virus similar enough to the K
strain was not included in this season's vaccine.
Ron Okimoto
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-season-cases-rise-cdc-data-doctors-visits/ >>
https://www.cdc.gov/fluview/surveillance/2025-week-52.html
This is the highest hospitalization rate this early in the flu season
since 1997.-a The CDC is now claiming 5,000 deaths from flu.-a This is up >> over 3,000 from 2 weeks ago (1900).-a What CDC mortality measure is
important, but the CDC isn't clear about what they are claiming.-a The
CDC has several ways to track flu mortality.-a Where flu is the cause of
death is the one category.-a This category had only 4,000 deaths in the
entire 2023-2024 flu seasons.-a If this is what the the CDC is talking
about this is going to be a very bad year.-a The CDC also has a category
where flu was a major influence in the death and that was around 23,000.
-aThey also have a category of influenza and Pneumonia (45,000 deaths in >> 2023-2024) because most of the influenza mortality is due to pneumonia
triggered by the influenza infection.-a So if we already have 5,000
deaths caused by the flu this is going to be a very bad year if the CDC
is using the first category classification.
Because the chose the wrong vaccine strains again this year, vaccination
is not expected to do much against the K strain that is infecting most
people around the world at this time.
Ron Okimoto
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/flu-activity-continues-climb-us-15-million-cases/story?id=129052785
The CDC is increasing the mortality numbers to 7,400 deaths due to
influenza from 5,000 in just a few days. The news article is hyping it
as a record high. It is currently a 10 year high for children visiting >doctor's offices for the flu. Hospitalizations are expected to be
higher because they missed the K strain in the current vaccine, and >vaccination's major effect is reducing hospitalizations.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:45:55 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/6/2026 11:52 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/20/2025 8:57 PM, RonO wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/Health/flu-activity-continues-climb-us-15-million-cases/story?id=129052785
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-severity- >>>> new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.-a Depending on >>>> what they are counting this could be a really tragic year.-a They count >>>> the influenza mortality two different ways.-a Most of the time they are >>>> referring to the 20,000 to 50,000 annual deaths that we observe
associated with influenza, but this number includes a lot of people
that got the flu, but died of pneumonia.-a For the 2023-2024 flu season >>>> we had 45,000 deaths for flu and pneumonia, but only 4,000 cases
claimed for Influenza as a separate category even though most of the
45,000 deaths were triggered by influenza.-a This is why it is
important to know what classification that 1,900 number is.-a If it is >>>> for influenza mortality that would mean that around half the mortality >>>> of the entire 23-24 flu season has already occurred.-a If it is
counting the infected that died of pneumonia then it isn't so bad, but >>>> the K strain seems to be more virulent and is sending more people to
the hospital than past strains.
Data collection started September 28, 2025, and we are just entering
the peak season from Dec to Feb.-a If they are just counting the
influenza mortality and not influenza and pneumonia this looks like it >>>> is going to be a very bad year.
RFK canceling the mRNA influenza vaccine looks like a very big
mistake. The mRNA trial had just been completed and the mRNA vaccine
was found to be more effective than the killed virus vaccine, likely
because they had chosen wrong for the vaccine strains and the vaccine
strains were not a good match for the major virus infecting people.
The mRNA vaccine could have been made for the K strain, and likely
would have been more effective than the current vaccine because WHO
and the CDC chose wrong again, and a virus similar enough to the K
strain was not included in this season's vaccine.
Ron Okimoto
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-season-cases-rise-cdc-data-doctors-visits/ >>>
https://www.cdc.gov/fluview/surveillance/2025-week-52.html
This is the highest hospitalization rate this early in the flu season
since 1997.-a The CDC is now claiming 5,000 deaths from flu.-a This is up >>> over 3,000 from 2 weeks ago (1900).-a What CDC mortality measure is
important, but the CDC isn't clear about what they are claiming.-a The
CDC has several ways to track flu mortality.-a Where flu is the cause of >>> death is the one category.-a This category had only 4,000 deaths in the
entire 2023-2024 flu seasons.-a If this is what the the CDC is talking
about this is going to be a very bad year.-a The CDC also has a category >>> where flu was a major influence in the death and that was around 23,000. >>> -aThey also have a category of influenza and Pneumonia (45,000 deaths in >>> 2023-2024) because most of the influenza mortality is due to pneumonia
triggered by the influenza infection.-a So if we already have 5,000
deaths caused by the flu this is going to be a very bad year if the CDC
is using the first category classification.
Because the chose the wrong vaccine strains again this year, vaccination >>> is not expected to do much against the K strain that is infecting most
people around the world at this time.
Ron Okimoto
The CDC is increasing the mortality numbers to 7,400 deaths due to
influenza from 5,000 in just a few days. The news article is hyping it
as a record high. It is currently a 10 year high for children visiting
doctor's offices for the flu. Hospitalizations are expected to be
higher because they missed the K strain in the current vaccine, and
vaccination's major effect is reducing hospitalizations.
Irish hospitals are close to overwhelmed with flu cases. https://www.imt.ie/news/number-of-hospitalised-flu-patients-the-equivalent-of-two-large-hospitals-08-12-2025/
I was listening to a discussion with consultants on radio last week
and they said the problem is primarily with children; it's not just
them getting flu, it's them getting *very sick* with it and quite
often kept in hospital for a period and discharged, only to come back
a week later. As one consultant put it, "We used to fix them and that
was that; now we fix them and they come back and back."
The consultants both were convinced that poor uptake on the flu
vaccine is a major factor; they are having relatively few problems
with over 65s where the uptake has been over 75%; the uptake in
children has been less than 25%, even though it is free in the form of
a nasal spray for children 2-17, the group who are presenting most.
The programme included interviews with people in A&E in Ireland's
largest children's hospital; one woman who was back for a second time
with her very sick young daughter, said "We chose not to get the
vaccine." I was waiting for the interviewer to ask her how she now
felt about that choice, but he didn't ask her.
The consultants did admit that this year's vaccine isn't the right
strain but they said it still does help - like the Covid vaccine, it
won't stop people getting sick but it will substantially reduce the
risk of getting *very* sick.
On 1/6/2026 11:52 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/20/2025 8:57 PM, RonO wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/Health/flu-activity-continues-climb-us-15- million-cases/story?id=129052785
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/flu-season-states-
severity- new-variant-k-vaccines-kids-rcna250056
The article claims that there have already been 49,000
hopitializations and 1,900 influenza deaths this season.-a Depending
on what they are counting this could be a really tragic year.-a They
count the influenza mortality two different ways.-a Most of the time
they are referring to the 20,000 to 50,000 annual deaths that we
observe associated with influenza, but this number includes a lot of
people that got the flu, but died of pneumonia.-a For the 2023-2024
flu season we had 45,000 deaths for flu and pneumonia, but only 4,000
cases claimed for Influenza as a separate category even though most
of the 45,000 deaths were triggered by influenza.-a This is why it is
important to know what classification that 1,900 number is.-a If it is
for influenza mortality that would mean that around half the
mortality of the entire 23-24 flu season has already occurred.-a If it
is counting the infected that died of pneumonia then it isn't so bad,
but the K strain seems to be more virulent and is sending more people
to the hospital than past strains.
Data collection started September 28, 2025, and we are just entering
the peak season from Dec to Feb.-a If they are just counting the
influenza mortality and not influenza and pneumonia this looks like
it is going to be a very bad year.
RFK canceling the mRNA influenza vaccine looks like a very big
mistake. The mRNA trial had just been completed and the mRNA vaccine
was found to be more effective than the killed virus vaccine, likely
because they had chosen wrong for the vaccine strains and the vaccine
strains were not a good match for the major virus infecting people.
The mRNA vaccine could have been made for the K strain, and likely
would have been more effective than the current vaccine because WHO
and the CDC chose wrong again, and a virus similar enough to the K
strain was not included in this season's vaccine.
Ron Okimoto
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-season-cases-rise-cdc-data-doctors-
visits/
https://www.cdc.gov/fluview/surveillance/2025-week-52.html
This is the highest hospitalization rate this early in the flu season
since 1997.-a The CDC is now claiming 5,000 deaths from flu.-a This is
up over 3,000 from 2 weeks ago (1900).-a What CDC mortality measure is
important, but the CDC isn't clear about what they are claiming.-a The
CDC has several ways to track flu mortality.-a Where flu is the cause
of death is the one category.-a This category had only 4,000 deaths in
the entire 2023-2024 flu seasons.-a If this is what the the CDC is
talking about this is going to be a very bad year.-a The CDC also has a
category where flu was a major influence in the death and that was
around 23,000. -a-aThey also have a category of influenza and Pneumonia
(45,000 deaths in 2023-2024) because most of the influenza mortality
is due to pneumonia triggered by the influenza infection.-a So if we
already have 5,000 deaths caused by the flu this is going to be a very
bad year if the CDC is using the first category classification.
Because the chose the wrong vaccine strains again this year,
vaccination is not expected to do much against the K strain that is
infecting most people around the world at this time.
Ron Okimoto
The CDC is increasing the mortality numbers to 7,400 deaths due to
influenza from 5,000 in just a few days.-a The news article is hyping it
as a record high.-a It is currently a 10 year high for children visiting doctor's offices for the flu.-a Hospitalizations are expected to be
higher because they missed the K strain in the current vaccine, and vaccination's major effect is reducing hospitalizations.
Ron Okimoto
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