does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a bogus and dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the proponents were
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
fully aware of that, but continue to support the scam for religious
reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does not
mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID scam has demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible does not describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The Bible has been known to be wrong about a lot of things about the creation for centuries.-a The ID
scam has demonstrated that the Bible cannot be taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did not happen the way that they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to realize that
the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not the designer described
in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the IDiots because he can still lie
to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
On 12/18/2025 9:26 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a bogus and
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the proponents were
fully aware of that, but continue to support the scam for religious
reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does not
mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID scam has
demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible does not
describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The Bible has been
known to be wrong about a lot of things about the creation for
centuries.-a The ID scam has demonstrated that the Bible cannot be
taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did not happen the way that
they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to realize
that the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not the designer
described in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the IDiots because he
can still lie to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
I seem to see requests to prove the Bible when the debate sought is just whether there is ID
On 12/19/2025 9:16 AM, Dale wrote:
On 12/18/2025 9:26 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a bogus
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
and dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the proponents
were fully aware of that, but continue to support the scam for
religious reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does not
mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID scam has
demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible does not
describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The Bible has been
known to be wrong about a lot of things about the creation for
centuries.-a The ID scam has demonstrated that the Bible cannot be
taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did not happen the way that
they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to realize
that the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not the designer
described in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the IDiots because he
can still lie to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
I seem to see requests to prove the Bible when the debate sought is
just whether there is ID
There have been no request to prove or disprove the Bible in any way
except from the creationists.
On 12/19/2025 11:35 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/19/2025 9:16 AM, Dale wrote:
On 12/18/2025 9:26 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a bogus
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
and dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the proponents
were fully aware of that, but continue to support the scam for
religious reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does not
mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID scam
has demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible does not
describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The Bible has been >>>> known to be wrong about a lot of things about the creation for
centuries.-a The ID scam has demonstrated that the Bible cannot be
taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did not happen the way
that they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to realize
that the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not the designer
described in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the IDiots because he
can still lie to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
I seem to see requests to prove the Bible when the debate sought is
just whether there is ID
There have been no request to prove or disprove the Bible in any way
except from the creationists.
seen it happen here
On 12/19/2025 12:20 PM, Dale wrote:
On 12/19/2025 11:35 AM, RonO wrote:Your powers of observation seem to be the cause of a lot of your posts
On 12/19/2025 9:16 AM, Dale wrote:
On 12/18/2025 9:26 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a bogus
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
and dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the proponents >>>>> were fully aware of that, but continue to support the scam for
religious reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does
not mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID
scam has demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible
does not describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The
Bible has been known to be wrong about a lot of things about the
creation for centuries.-a The ID scam has demonstrated that the
Bible cannot be taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did not
happen the way that they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to realize >>>>> that the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not the designer >>>>> described in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the IDiots because he >>>>> can still lie to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
I seem to see requests to prove the Bible when the debate sought is
just whether there is ID
There have been no request to prove or disprove the Bible in any way
except from the creationists.
seen it happen here
never amounting to much of anything.-a The whole point of the creationist attempts to make their scientific creationist claims and their renaming
that effort intelligent design was because the creationists claimed that they could do the same science as everyone else and support their
Biblical creationist beliefs.-a The creationists are the ones that want
to use science to support their Biblical beliefs.-a Science doesn't care what their Biblical beliefs are.-a The plain and simple facts are that it has always been up to the creationists to demonstrate that they can
support their religious beliefs with science.-a The scientific
creationist effort ended in abject failure, and the intelligent design
scam pretty much ended with the ID perps running a bait and switch scam instead of put up their junk for evaluation like the scientific
creationists had done before them.-a Their junk was only publically evaluated where it mattered when their bait and switch efforts failed
and the creationist rubes tried to teach the nonexistant science anyway.
-aIf this had not happened the ID perps would have never had, had to demonstrate how worthless their scam junk was.
It has always been the scientific and intelligent design creationists
that have wanted to use science to support their Biblical beliefs.-a The fact that they failed is their problem and not anyone elses.
Ron Okimoto
On 12/19/2025 4:40 PM, RonO wrote:
On 12/19/2025 12:20 PM, Dale wrote:
On 12/19/2025 11:35 AM, RonO wrote:Your powers of observation seem to be the cause of a lot of your posts
On 12/19/2025 9:16 AM, Dale wrote:
On 12/18/2025 9:26 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a bogus >>>>>> and dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
proponents were fully aware of that, but continue to support the
scam for religious reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does
not mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID >>>>>> scam has demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible
does not describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The
Bible has been known to be wrong about a lot of things about the
creation for centuries.-a The ID scam has demonstrated that the
Bible cannot be taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did not >>>>>> happen the way that they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to
realize that the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not the >>>>>> designer described in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the IDiots >>>>>> because he can still lie to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
I seem to see requests to prove the Bible when the debate sought is >>>>> just whether there is ID
There have been no request to prove or disprove the Bible in any way
except from the creationists.
seen it happen here
never amounting to much of anything.-a The whole point of the
creationist attempts to make their scientific creationist claims and
their renaming that effort intelligent design was because the
creationists claimed that they could do the same science as everyone
else and support their Biblical creationist beliefs.-a The creationists
are the ones that want to use science to support their Biblical
beliefs.-a Science doesn't care what their Biblical beliefs are.-a The
plain and simple facts are that it has always been up to the
creationists to demonstrate that they can support their religious
beliefs with science.-a The scientific creationist effort ended in
abject failure, and the intelligent design scam pretty much ended with
the ID perps running a bait and switch scam instead of put up their
junk for evaluation like the scientific creationists had done before
them.-a Their junk was only publically evaluated where it mattered when
their bait and switch efforts failed and the creationist rubes tried
to teach the nonexistant science anyway. -a-aIf this had not happened
the ID perps would have never had, had to demonstrate how worthless
their scam junk was.
It has always been the scientific and intelligent design creationists
that have wanted to use science to support their Biblical beliefs.
The fact that they failed is their problem and not anyone elses.
Ron Okimoto
There are some good things in the Bible ?
The tree of life is a mother's womb ?
The garden of Eden is planting/harvesting by family relations ?
Leaving Eden completely to plant/sow/harvest ones own garden is the
"human condition"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_condition
On 12/19/2025 6:18 PM, Dale wrote:
On 12/19/2025 4:40 PM, RonO wrote:
On 12/19/2025 12:20 PM, Dale wrote:
On 12/19/2025 11:35 AM, RonO wrote:Your powers of observation seem to be the cause of a lot of your
On 12/19/2025 9:16 AM, Dale wrote:
On 12/18/2025 9:26 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
bogus and dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the
proponents were fully aware of that, but continue to support the >>>>>>> scam for religious reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does >>>>>>> not mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID >>>>>>> scam has demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible >>>>>>> does not describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The >>>>>>> Bible has been known to be wrong about a lot of things about the >>>>>>> creation for centuries.-a The ID scam has demonstrated that the >>>>>>> Bible cannot be taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did not >>>>>>> happen the way that they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to
realize that the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not
the designer described in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the >>>>>>> IDiots because he can still lie to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
I seem to see requests to prove the Bible when the debate sought
is just whether there is ID
There have been no request to prove or disprove the Bible in any
way except from the creationists.
seen it happen here
posts never amounting to much of anything.-a The whole point of the
creationist attempts to make their scientific creationist claims and
their renaming that effort intelligent design was because the
creationists claimed that they could do the same science as everyone
else and support their Biblical creationist beliefs.-a The
creationists are the ones that want to use science to support their
Biblical beliefs.-a Science doesn't care what their Biblical beliefs
are.-a The plain and simple facts are that it has always been up to
the creationists to demonstrate that they can support their religious
beliefs with science.-a The scientific creationist effort ended in
abject failure, and the intelligent design scam pretty much ended
with the ID perps running a bait and switch scam instead of put up
their junk for evaluation like the scientific creationists had done
before them.-a Their junk was only publically evaluated where it
mattered when their bait and switch efforts failed and the
creationist rubes tried to teach the nonexistant science anyway. -a-aIf >>> this had not happened the ID perps would have never had, had to
demonstrate how worthless their scam junk was.
It has always been the scientific and intelligent design creationists
that have wanted to use science to support their Biblical beliefs.
The fact that they failed is their problem and not anyone elses.
Ron Okimoto
There are some good things in the Bible ?
The tree of life is a mother's womb ?
The garden of Eden is planting/harvesting by family relations ?
Leaving Eden completely to plant/sow/harvest ones own garden is the
"human condition"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_condition
More good Bible thoughts around Christmas ?
I have some simple new thinking of mine I put on my Website.
"Garden of Eden"
"Christmas"
On the HOME selection of my Site there are links to thoughts.
On the BLOG selection of my my Site the thoughts can be found.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
On 12/22/2025 7:54 PM, Dale wrote:
On 12/19/2025 6:18 PM, Dale wrote:
On 12/19/2025 4:40 PM, RonO wrote:
On 12/19/2025 12:20 PM, Dale wrote:
On 12/19/2025 11:35 AM, RonO wrote:Your powers of observation seem to be the cause of a lot of your
On 12/19/2025 9:16 AM, Dale wrote:
On 12/18/2025 9:26 AM, RonO wrote:
On 12/18/2025 5:52 AM, Dale wrote:
What you are witnessing on TO is the fact that ID has been a
does this mean non-intelligence does it ?
bogus and dishonest creationist scam for decades, and that the >>>>>>>> proponents were fully aware of that, but continue to support the >>>>>>>> scam for religious reasons.
Just because the ID creationist scam turned out to be bogus does >>>>>>>> not mean that there is no god or gods in existence.-a What the ID >>>>>>>> scam has demonstrated is that if some god exists that the Bible >>>>>>>> does not describe this god's achievments very accurately.-a The >>>>>>>> Bible has been known to be wrong about a lot of things about the >>>>>>>> creation for centuries.-a The ID scam has demonstrated that the >>>>>>>> Bible cannot be taken as a science textbook.-a Things just did >>>>>>>> not happen the way that they are described in the Bible.
Most of the IDiots quit the ID scam on TO when they came to
realize that the designer that fills the ID perp's gaps is not >>>>>>>> the designer described in the Bible.-a MarkE is the last of the >>>>>>>> IDiots because he can still lie to himself about reality.
Ron Okimoto
I seem to see requests to prove the Bible when the debate sought >>>>>>> is just whether there is ID
There have been no request to prove or disprove the Bible in any
way except from the creationists.
seen it happen here
posts never amounting to much of anything.-a The whole point of the
creationist attempts to make their scientific creationist claims and
their renaming that effort intelligent design was because the
creationists claimed that they could do the same science as everyone
else and support their Biblical creationist beliefs.-a The
creationists are the ones that want to use science to support their
Biblical beliefs.-a Science doesn't care what their Biblical beliefs
are.-a The plain and simple facts are that it has always been up to
the creationists to demonstrate that they can support their
religious beliefs with science.-a The scientific creationist effort
ended in abject failure, and the intelligent design scam pretty much
ended with the ID perps running a bait and switch scam instead of
put up their junk for evaluation like the scientific creationists
had done before them.-a Their junk was only publically evaluated
where it mattered when their bait and switch efforts failed and the
creationist rubes tried to teach the nonexistant science anyway.
-a-aIf this had not happened the ID perps would have never had, had to >>>> demonstrate how worthless their scam junk was.
It has always been the scientific and intelligent design
creationists that have wanted to use science to support their
Biblical beliefs. The fact that they failed is their problem and not
anyone elses.
Ron Okimoto
There are some good things in the Bible ?
The tree of life is a mother's womb ?
The garden of Eden is planting/harvesting by family relations ?
Leaving Eden completely to plant/sow/harvest ones own garden is the
"human condition"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_condition
More good Bible thoughts around Christmas ?
I have some simple new thinking of mine I put on my Website.
"Garden of Eden"
"Christmas"
On the HOME selection of my Site there are links to thoughts.
On the BLOG selection of my my Site the thoughts can be found.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
You are an example of people finding what ever they want to find in the Bible, and you are also an example of why that isn't a desirable aspect
of the Bible.
Ron Okimoto
| Sysop: | Amessyroom |
|---|---|
| Location: | Fayetteville, NC |
| Users: | 54 |
| Nodes: | 6 (0 / 6) |
| Uptime: | 05:09:12 |
| Calls: | 743 |
| Files: | 1,218 |
| Messages: | 188,614 |