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He claims to go to the gym 3 times a week, and hasn't seemed to have
slowed down mentally. This is not normal.

For some reason humans have evolved to get old and degenerate. Some
birds reproduce out to a century of age. There was a recent article
about a century old tortoise reproducing. They believe that women go
through menopause in order to survive longer. We depend on our culture,
and humans are able to learn cultural necessities in greater numbers and faster than our ape contemporaries. There has been selection for aiding cultural integrity by extending the lives of some members of the clan,
but your ancestors are direct competitors, and it looks like humans were
never selected for lengthy survival after their reproductive years.

Ron Okimoto

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RonO wrote:

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/dick-van-dyke-prepares-turn-100-im-lucky/story?id=128322788

He claims to go to the gym 3 times a week, and hasn't seemed to have
slowed down mentally.-a This is not normal.

For some reason humans have evolved to get old and degenerate.-a Some
birds reproduce out to a century of age.-a There was a recent article
about a century old tortoise reproducing.-a They believe that women go through menopause in order to survive longer.-a We depend on our culture, and humans are able to learn cultural necessities in greater numbers and faster than our ape contemporaries.-a There has been selection for aiding cultural integrity by extending the lives of some members of the clan,
but your ancestors are direct competitors, and it looks like humans were never selected for lengthy survival after their reproductive years.

Someone tell David Dalton we found one of his aliens...

PS - what about the notion that older humans help with
raising young etc?

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On 12/12/25 10:25 PM, Pro Plyd wrote:

RonO wrote:

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/dick-van-dyke-prepares-turn-100-im-lucky/story?id=128322788
He claims to go to the gym 3 times a week, and hasn't seemed to have
slowed down mentally.-a This is not normal.

For some reason humans have evolved to get old and degenerate.-a Some
birds reproduce out to a century of age.-a There was a recent article
about a century old tortoise reproducing.-a They believe that women go
through menopause in order to survive longer.-a We depend on our
culture, and humans are able to learn cultural necessities in greater
numbers and faster than our ape contemporaries.-a There has been
selection for aiding cultural integrity by extending the lives of some
members of the clan, but your ancestors are direct competitors, and it
looks like humans were never selected for lengthy survival after their
reproductive years.

Someone tell David Dalton we found one of his aliens...

PS - what about the notion that older humans help with
raising young etc?

I think Dalton IS an alien. As for "older humans help", my grandmother
lived in my family when I was a kid, and she tought me to read by
reading Donald Duck comics to me when I was about four years old.

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On 12/13/2025 12:25 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:

RonO wrote:

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/dick-van-dyke-prepares-turn-100-im-
lucky/story?id=128322788
He claims to go to the gym 3 times a week, and hasn't seemed to have
slowed down mentally.-a This is not normal.

For some reason humans have evolved to get old and degenerate.-a Some
birds reproduce out to a century of age.-a There was a recent article
about a century old tortoise reproducing.-a They believe that women go
through menopause in order to survive longer.-a We depend on our
culture, and humans are able to learn cultural necessities in greater
numbers and faster than our ape contemporaries.-a There has been
selection for aiding cultural integrity by extending the lives of some
members of the clan, but your ancestors are direct competitors, and it
looks like humans were never selected for lengthy survival after their
reproductive years.

Someone tell David Dalton we found one of his aliens...

PS - what about the notion that older humans help with
raising young etc?

The hunter gatherers that survived into the modern era usually only
tolerate the older family members for as long as they can be useful in gathering food or doing things like chewing hide for making clothing.
If times got tough granny was the first to go. Some cultures developed rituals for euthanizing the elderly. If you occupy the same territory
as your parents they are among your most pressing competition for resources.

Ron Okimoto

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