• Another dairy infection

    From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Dec 3 16:28:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/marburg/quick-takes-marburg-cases-reach-13-avian-flu-detections-alaska

    A new California dairy has been infected. They aren't giving the
    genotype. It is pretty difficult to infect a California herd that has
    not already been infected, but reinfections keep happening (likely
    because they are not restricting dairy worker movements off infected
    dairies) and a previously uninfected herd is now infected. The last
    update in October claimed that there were only 13 infected herds left in California, but herds were still being reinfected. My guess is that a
    lot of dairy workers were also infected more than once at the reinfected dairies.

    Wild bird infections detected in 3 states with 30 infection in one area
    of Alaska. These might be old cases because they are claimed to be
    Mallard samples and migratory birds should have cleared Alaska a while
    ago. They started shooting migratory ducks last month in Arkansas.
    Some mallards over winter in Arkansas and they shoot around 9 million
    ducks a season that ends at the end of January.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Dec 8 14:44:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 12/3/2025 4:28 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/marburg/quick-takes-marburg-cases-reach-13- avian-flu-detections-alaska

    A new California dairy has been infected.-a They aren't giving the genotype.-a It is pretty difficult to infect a California herd that has
    not already been infected, but reinfections keep happening (likely
    because they are not restricting dairy worker movements off infected dairies) and a previously uninfected herd is now infected.-a The last
    update in October claimed that there were only 13 infected herds left in California, but herds were still being reinfected.-a My guess is that a
    lot of dairy workers were also infected more than once at the reinfected dairies.

    Wild bird infections detected in 3 states with 30 infection in one area
    of Alaska.-a These might be old cases because they are claimed to be
    Mallard samples and migratory birds should have cleared Alaska a while ago.-a They started shooting migratory ducks last month in Arkansas. Some mallards over winter in Arkansas and they shoot around 9 million ducks a season that ends at the end of January.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/quick-takes-more-avian-flu-activity-indiana-cases-new-world-screwworm

    Indiana is having a real issue with avian influenza. From other
    articles it sounds like Amish farms are being infected these are farms
    in the same county with mostly meat commercial flocks at each farm that
    tend to involve 100,000 or less birds per farm. My guess is that they
    should be looking into contact tracing workers on these farms. They
    know that humans are easily infected, and there is likely a reason why
    so many farms in such a small area are being infected among a relatively closed population like the Amish.

    Human infection with influenza A are increasing in the US. The same
    H3N2 (subclade K) virus that is causing issues in Japan and the UK seems
    to be spreading. The current vaccine chose wrong again and is likely
    not very effective against this H3N2 variant.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Dec 8 15:08:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 12/8/2025 2:44 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/3/2025 4:28 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/marburg/quick-takes-marburg-cases-reach-13-
    avian-flu-detections-alaska

    A new California dairy has been infected.-a They aren't giving the
    genotype.-a It is pretty difficult to infect a California herd that has
    not already been infected, but reinfections keep happening (likely
    because they are not restricting dairy worker movements off infected
    dairies) and a previously uninfected herd is now infected.-a The last
    update in October claimed that there were only 13 infected herds left
    in California, but herds were still being reinfected.-a My guess is
    that a lot of dairy workers were also infected more than once at the
    reinfected dairies.

    Wild bird infections detected in 3 states with 30 infection in one
    area of Alaska.-a These might be old cases because they are claimed to
    be Mallard samples and migratory birds should have cleared Alaska a
    while ago.-a They started shooting migratory ducks last month in
    Arkansas. Some mallards over winter in Arkansas and they shoot around
    9 million ducks a season that ends at the end of January.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/quick-takes-more- avian-flu-activity-indiana-cases-new-world-screwworm

    Indiana is having a real issue with avian influenza.-a From other
    articles it sounds like Amish farms are being infected these are farms
    in the same county with mostly meat commercial flocks at each farm that
    tend to involve 100,000 or less birds per farm.-a My guess is that they should be looking into contact tracing workers on these farms.-a They
    know that humans are easily infected, and there is likely a reason why
    so many farms in such a small area are being infected among a relatively closed population like the Amish.

    Human infection with influenza A are increasing in the US.-a The same
    H3N2 (subclade K) virus that is causing issues in Japan and the UK seems
    to be spreading.-a The current vaccine chose wrong again and is likely
    not very effective against this H3N2 variant.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/flu-concerns-grow-us-uk-sees-cases-kids/story?id=128203545

    Flu season is ramping up there have already been 2 million infections,
    19,000 hospitalizations and 730 deaths in the US. Japan, the UK and the
    US are being hit mostly by the H3N2 strain. It is obviously spreading internationally. WHO and the CDC did not include a closely related
    virus in the current vaccine. Things are just getting started. We
    usually have 20,000 to 30,000 influenza related deaths each year in the
    US. Covid taught us that masking and social distancing effectively
    prevented the usual number of influenza fatalities. We just don't think
    that saving 20,000 lives is worth the effort. Masking is most effective
    if you get the infected to wear a mask and reduce the amount of virus in
    the environment. Getting people to wear, at least, a KN95 mask in
    public if they have flu like symptoms might prevent a lot of infections.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Dec 10 16:56:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 12/8/2025 3:08 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 2:44 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/3/2025 4:28 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/marburg/quick-takes-marburg-cases-
    reach-13- avian-flu-detections-alaska

    A new California dairy has been infected.-a They aren't giving the
    genotype.-a It is pretty difficult to infect a California herd that
    has not already been infected, but reinfections keep happening
    (likely because they are not restricting dairy worker movements off
    infected dairies) and a previously uninfected herd is now infected.
    The last update in October claimed that there were only 13 infected
    herds left in California, but herds were still being reinfected.-a My
    guess is that a lot of dairy workers were also infected more than
    once at the reinfected dairies.

    Wild bird infections detected in 3 states with 30 infection in one
    area of Alaska.-a These might be old cases because they are claimed to
    be Mallard samples and migratory birds should have cleared Alaska a
    while ago.-a They started shooting migratory ducks last month in
    Arkansas. Some mallards over winter in Arkansas and they shoot around
    9 million ducks a season that ends at the end of January.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/quick-takes-more-
    avian-flu-activity-indiana-cases-new-world-screwworm

    Indiana is having a real issue with avian influenza.-a From other
    articles it sounds like Amish farms are being infected these are farms
    in the same county with mostly meat commercial flocks at each farm
    that tend to involve 100,000 or less birds per farm.-a My guess is that
    they should be looking into contact tracing workers on these farms.
    They know that humans are easily infected, and there is likely a
    reason why so many farms in such a small area are being infected among
    a relatively closed population like the Amish.

    Human infection with influenza A are increasing in the US.-a The same
    H3N2 (subclade K) virus that is causing issues in Japan and the UK
    seems to be spreading.-a The current vaccine chose wrong again and is
    likely not very effective against this H3N2 variant.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/flu-concerns-grow-us-uk-sees-cases- kids/story?id=128203545

    Flu season is ramping up there have already been 2 million infections, 19,000 hospitalizations and 730 deaths in the US.-a Japan, the UK and the
    US are being hit mostly by the H3N2 strain.-a It is obviously spreading internationally.-a WHO and the CDC did not include a closely related
    virus in the current vaccine.-a Things are just getting started.-a We usually have 20,000 to 30,000 influenza related deaths each year in the US.-a Covid taught us that masking and social distancing effectively prevented the usual number of influenza fatalities.-a We just don't think that saving 20,000 lives is worth the effort.-a Masking is most effective
    if you get the infected to wear a mask and reduce the amount of virus in
    the environment.-a Getting people to wear, at least, a KN95 mask in
    public if they have flu like symptoms might prevent a lot of infections.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/new-avian-flu-outbreaks-reported-5-states

    More avian influenza outbreaks among commercial poultry, mostly in
    Indiana, but the infections are moving out of LaGrange county into
    neighboring Elkhart and Noble counties. They should be implementing
    contact tracing to try to determine how the virus is spreading to so
    many flocks. A bunch of vultures have died of suspected HPAI infection
    in Ohio. They were found dead on an athletic field of a local school.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Dec 12 14:14:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 12/11/2025 9:46 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/10/2025 4:56 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 3:08 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 2:44 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/3/2025 4:28 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/marburg/quick-takes-marburg-cases-
    reach-13- avian-flu-detections-alaska

    A new California dairy has been infected.-a They aren't giving the
    genotype.-a It is pretty difficult to infect a California herd that >>>>> has not already been infected, but reinfections keep happening
    (likely because they are not restricting dairy worker movements off >>>>> infected dairies) and a previously uninfected herd is now infected. >>>>> The last update in October claimed that there were only 13 infected >>>>> herds left in California, but herds were still being reinfected.
    My guess is that a lot of dairy workers were also infected more
    than once at the reinfected dairies.

    Wild bird infections detected in 3 states with 30 infection in one
    area of Alaska.-a These might be old cases because they are claimed >>>>> to be Mallard samples and migratory birds should have cleared
    Alaska a while ago.-a They started shooting migratory ducks last
    month in Arkansas. Some mallards over winter in Arkansas and they
    shoot around 9 million ducks a season that ends at the end of January. >>>>>
    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/quick-takes-
    more- avian-flu-activity-indiana-cases-new-world-screwworm

    Indiana is having a real issue with avian influenza.-a From other
    articles it sounds like Amish farms are being infected these are
    farms in the same county with mostly meat commercial flocks at each
    farm that tend to involve 100,000 or less birds per farm.-a My guess
    is that they should be looking into contact tracing workers on these
    farms. They know that humans are easily infected, and there is
    likely a reason why so many farms in such a small area are being
    infected among a relatively closed population like the Amish.

    Human infection with influenza A are increasing in the US.-a The same >>>> H3N2 (subclade K) virus that is causing issues in Japan and the UK
    seems to be spreading.-a The current vaccine chose wrong again and is >>>> likely not very effective against this H3N2 variant.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/flu-concerns-grow-us-uk-sees-
    cases- kids/story?id=128203545

    Flu season is ramping up there have already been 2 million
    infections, 19,000 hospitalizations and 730 deaths in the US.-a Japan,
    the UK and the US are being hit mostly by the H3N2 strain.-a It is
    obviously spreading internationally.-a WHO and the CDC did not include
    a closely related virus in the current vaccine.-a Things are just
    getting started.-a We usually have 20,000 to 30,000 influenza related
    deaths each year in the US.-a Covid taught us that masking and social
    distancing effectively prevented the usual number of influenza
    fatalities.-a We just don't think that saving 20,000 lives is worth
    the effort.-a Masking is most effective if you get the infected to
    wear a mask and reduce the amount of virus in the environment.
    Getting people to wear, at least, a KN95 mask in public if they have
    flu like symptoms might prevent a lot of infections.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/new-avian-flu-
    outbreaks-reported-5-states

    More avian influenza outbreaks among commercial poultry, mostly in
    Indiana, but the infections are moving out of LaGrange county into
    neighboring Elkhart and Noble counties.-a They should be implementing
    contact tracing to try to determine how the virus is spreading to so
    many flocks. A bunch of vultures have died of suspected HPAI infection
    in Ohio.-a They were found dead on an athletic field of a local school.

    Do vultures flock in the winter time?-a How could so many die in one
    place and all be infected at around the same time?-a The flock may have feasted on a bunch of migratory birds that died of avian influenza. When
    I first moved to Arkansas the state was producing over 3 billion broiler chickens a year and the highways were littered with birds that had
    fallen off the trucks transporting them to the processing plants. They improved the shipping crates and now you rarely see a dead chicken along
    the highway.-a You would think that raptors and vultures would have had
    good times with no shortage of carcasses, but you hardly ever saw any
    eating a chicken carcass.-a Instead they would group and eat the road
    kill raccoons, opossum, armadillos and even skunks rather than eat a chicken.-a I used to think that it was to avoid avian diseases, but I do
    not know why they avoided the chickens.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/measles/quick-takes-measles-reappears-connecticut-more-infant-botulism-avian-flu-florida-birds

    More bird cases mostly wild ducks in Florida and Georgia, but two
    bobcats in two different states (Michigan and Oregon).

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Sat Dec 13 10:00:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On 12/12/2025 2:14 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/11/2025 9:46 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/10/2025 4:56 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 3:08 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/8/2025 2:44 PM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/3/2025 4:28 PM, RonO wrote:
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/marburg/quick-takes-marburg-cases-
    reach-13- avian-flu-detections-alaska

    A new California dairy has been infected.-a They aren't giving the >>>>>> genotype.-a It is pretty difficult to infect a California herd that >>>>>> has not already been infected, but reinfections keep happening
    (likely because they are not restricting dairy worker movements
    off infected dairies) and a previously uninfected herd is now
    infected. The last update in October claimed that there were only >>>>>> 13 infected herds left in California, but herds were still being
    reinfected. My guess is that a lot of dairy workers were also
    infected more than once at the reinfected dairies.

    Wild bird infections detected in 3 states with 30 infection in one >>>>>> area of Alaska.-a These might be old cases because they are claimed >>>>>> to be Mallard samples and migratory birds should have cleared
    Alaska a while ago.-a They started shooting migratory ducks last
    month in Arkansas. Some mallards over winter in Arkansas and they >>>>>> shoot around 9 million ducks a season that ends at the end of
    January.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/quick-takes-
    more- avian-flu-activity-indiana-cases-new-world-screwworm

    Indiana is having a real issue with avian influenza.-a From other
    articles it sounds like Amish farms are being infected these are
    farms in the same county with mostly meat commercial flocks at each >>>>> farm that tend to involve 100,000 or less birds per farm.-a My guess >>>>> is that they should be looking into contact tracing workers on
    these farms. They know that humans are easily infected, and there
    is likely a reason why so many farms in such a small area are being >>>>> infected among a relatively closed population like the Amish.

    Human infection with influenza A are increasing in the US.-a The
    same H3N2 (subclade K) virus that is causing issues in Japan and
    the UK seems to be spreading.-a The current vaccine chose wrong
    again and is likely not very effective against this H3N2 variant.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/flu-concerns-grow-us-uk-sees-
    cases- kids/story?id=128203545

    Flu season is ramping up there have already been 2 million
    infections, 19,000 hospitalizations and 730 deaths in the US.
    Japan, the UK and the US are being hit mostly by the H3N2 strain.
    It is obviously spreading internationally.-a WHO and the CDC did not
    include a closely related virus in the current vaccine.-a Things are
    just getting started.-a We usually have 20,000 to 30,000 influenza
    related deaths each year in the US.-a Covid taught us that masking
    and social distancing effectively prevented the usual number of
    influenza fatalities.-a We just don't think that saving 20,000 lives
    is worth the effort.-a Masking is most effective if you get the
    infected to wear a mask and reduce the amount of virus in the
    environment. Getting people to wear, at least, a KN95 mask in public
    if they have flu like symptoms might prevent a lot of infections.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/new-avian-flu-
    outbreaks-reported-5-states

    More avian influenza outbreaks among commercial poultry, mostly in
    Indiana, but the infections are moving out of LaGrange county into
    neighboring Elkhart and Noble counties.-a They should be implementing
    contact tracing to try to determine how the virus is spreading to so
    many flocks. A bunch of vultures have died of suspected HPAI
    infection in Ohio.-a They were found dead on an athletic field of a
    local school.

    Do vultures flock in the winter time?-a How could so many die in one
    place and all be infected at around the same time?-a The flock may have
    feasted on a bunch of migratory birds that died of avian influenza.
    When I first moved to Arkansas the state was producing over 3 billion
    broiler chickens a year and the highways were littered with birds that
    had fallen off the trucks transporting them to the processing plants.
    They improved the shipping crates and now you rarely see a dead
    chicken along the highway.-a You would think that raptors and vultures
    would have had good times with no shortage of carcasses, but you
    hardly ever saw any eating a chicken carcass.-a Instead they would
    group and eat the road kill raccoons, opossum, armadillos and even
    skunks rather than eat a chicken.-a I used to think that it was to
    avoid avian diseases, but I do not know why they avoided the chickens.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/measles/quick-takes-measles-reappears- connecticut-more-infant-botulism-avian-flu-florida-birds

    More bird cases mostly wild ducks in Florida and Georgia, but two
    bobcats in two different states (Michigan and Oregon).

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/quick-takes-suspected-avian-flu-us-and-canada-polio-3-countries-national

    More bird infections across the US including Hawaii, and Canada is still having issues.

    Ron Okimoto

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