• Bird flu that won't infect birds!!!!!!!!

    From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Nov 20 00:26:45 2025
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    Remember that bird flu that respects our southern border,
    refuses to infect any birds that can fly & migrate? So
    you could drive down to Mexico and buy all the cheap eggs
    you wanted when they were $7 a dozen (or more) up here...

    Well. Sure it won't infect birds that fly & migrate but it
    infects people!

    Hmm. Isn't that just further proof that the whole bird flu
    narrative was bullshit?

    If there honestly was this terrible bird flu, this bird
    flu that was so deadly dangerous they literally fucked with
    the food supply, slaughtering chickens by the tens of
    millions -- taking eggs away from our poor -- but south of
    the border where they never did this NOBODY DIED!

    No outbreak.

    Nothing.

    Well, cheap egg prices, well below $2 a dozen but no flu
    outbreak...

    BUT IT INFECTS HUMANS!

    Just not humans south of the border where they never attacked
    the food supply, artificially driving up prices?

    Look. The story is a fake. If there's such a flu then it's
    man made, because nothing in nature CAN behave this way. Viruses
    can't see borders, they don't know the difference between a
    Mexican and an American. And if there isn't a man made flu
    virus, it's all a hoax.

    Either way, ignore it. There's nothing that concerns you. If
    the powers that be want you dead, you die. Simple as that. It
    would probably be better for you if you never see it coming.
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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Nov 20 08:48:03 2025
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    On 11/19/2025 11:26 PM, JTEM wrote:

    Remember that bird flu that respects our southern border,
    refuses to infect any birds that can fly & migrate? So
    you could drive down to Mexico and buy all the cheap eggs
    you wanted when they were $7 a dozen (or more) up here...

    Well. Sure it won't infect birds that fly & migrate but it
    infects people!

    Hmm. Isn't that just further proof that the whole bird flu
    narrative was bullshit?

    If there honestly was this terrible bird flu, this bird
    flu that was so deadly dangerous they literally fucked with
    the food supply, slaughtering chickens by the tens of
    millions -- taking eggs away from our poor -- but south of
    the border where they never did this NOBODY DIED!

    No outbreak.

    Nothing.

    Well, cheap egg prices, well below $2 a dozen but no flu
    outbreak...

    BUT IT INFECTS HUMANS!

    Just not humans south of the border where they never attacked
    the food supply, artificially driving up prices?

    Look. The story is a fake. If there's such a flu then it's
    man made, because nothing in nature CAN behave this way. Viruses
    can't see borders, they don't know the difference between a
    Mexican and an American. And if there isn't a man made flu
    virus, it's all a hoax.

    Either way, ignore it. There's nothing that concerns you. If
    the powers that be want you dead, you die. Simple as that. It
    would probably be better for you if you never see it coming.

    Just a nut job.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/more-indiana-poultry-operations-hit-avian-flu

    This article claims that hundreds of wild birds have tested positive and
    in the last 30 days 88 poultry flocks have been infected (38 commercial
    flocks and 50 backyard flocks.

    It isn't just dairy cattle, cats and humans that are being infected.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/avian-flu-has-decimated-worlds-largest-breeding-colony-southern-elephant

    Half of the largest colony of Southern Elephant seals have died.

    Another serious human infection. The patient has been hospitalized
    since early Nov. and he was infected by his backyard flock. He seems to
    have been infected by another reassorted H5 strain. The B3.13 genotype
    (dairy virus, poultry, cats, human etc) has the same H5 and N1 genes as
    the Asian H5N1, but the D1.1 genotype (dairy, poultry, and human) has
    the same H5 gene as the Asian H5N1, but its N1 gene comes from a North American strain. Previous articles have claimed that the elephant seals
    were infected by migratory birds with H5N1.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-human-case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    Grow up, and grow a brain.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Dec 1 17:39:33 2025
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    On 11/20/2025 8:48 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 11:26 PM, JTEM wrote:

    Remember that bird flu that respects our southern border,
    refuses to infect any birds that can fly & migrate? So
    you could drive down to Mexico and buy all the cheap eggs
    you wanted when they were $7 a dozen (or more) up here...

    Well. Sure it won't infect birds that fly & migrate but it
    infects people!

    Hmm. Isn't that just further proof that the whole bird flu
    narrative was bullshit?

    If there honestly was this terrible bird flu, this bird
    flu that was so deadly dangerous they literally fucked with
    the food supply, slaughtering chickens by the tens of
    millions -- taking eggs away from our poor -- but south of
    the border where they never did this NOBODY DIED!

    No outbreak.

    Nothing.

    Well, cheap egg prices, well below $2 a dozen but no flu
    outbreak...

    BUT IT INFECTS HUMANS!

    Just not humans south of the border where they never attacked
    the food supply, artificially driving up prices?

    Look. The story is a fake. If there's such a flu then it's
    man made, because nothing in nature CAN behave this way. Viruses
    can't see borders, they don't know the difference between a
    Mexican and an American. And if there isn't a man made flu
    virus, it's all a hoax.

    Either way, ignore it. There's nothing that concerns you. If
    the powers that be want you dead, you die. Simple as that. It
    would probably be better for you if you never see it coming.

    Just a nut job.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/more-indiana- poultry-operations-hit-avian-flu

    This article claims that hundreds of wild birds have tested positive and
    in the last 30 days 88 poultry flocks have been infected (38 commercial flocks and 50 backyard flocks.

    It isn't just dairy cattle, cats and humans that are being infected.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/avian-flu-has- decimated-worlds-largest-breeding-colony-southern-elephant

    Half of the largest colony of Southern Elephant seals have died.

    Another serious human infection.-a The patient has been hospitalized
    since early Nov. and he was infected by his backyard flock.-a He seems to have been infected by another reassorted H5 strain.-a The B3.13 genotype (dairy virus, poultry, cats, human etc) has the same H5 and N1 genes as
    the Asian H5N1, but the D1.1 genotype (dairy, poultry, and human) has
    the same H5 gene as the Asian H5N1, but its N1 gene comes from a North American strain.-a Previous articles have claimed that the elephant seals were infected by migratory birds with H5N1.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-human- case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    Grow up, and grow a brain.

    Ron Okimoto

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/botulism/quick-takes-more-infant-botulism-us-avian-flu-indiana

    More commercial flocks in the same county of Indiana. Something is
    going on in Indiana, but they aren't releasing the genotype data, and
    they don't seem to be doing any epidemiological analysis. The 30 day
    count just keeps going up. In the last 30 days 95 flocks have been
    infected including 43 commercial flocks. A lot of backyard flocks are
    going down, and they likely need to do something to improve public
    awareness and keep the backyard flock owners from being infected.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to talk-origins on Mon Dec 1 22:50:30 2025
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    On 12/1/25 6:39 PM, RonO wrote:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-human-
    case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    You are monumentally stupid, yes, but Washington State isn't in Mexico,
    and it was in Mexico where they did NOT slaughter the flocks and
    slash the egg supply, driving prices through the roof.

    If you had reading comprehension you might've avoided this stupid
    mistake but, I know what your fairy tale says. It don't make sense,
    it can't happen as you describe -- it's literally impossible --
    UNLESS it's man made.

    Is it?

    Is this another PlanDemic you're talking about?

    This bird flu which could not infect birds that could fly & migrate
    in the winter, is it man made or a hoax?
    --
    https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Tue Dec 2 09:23:46 2025
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    On 12/1/2025 9:50 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 12/1/25 6:39 PM, RonO wrote:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-human-
    case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    You are monumentally stupid, yes, but Washington State isn't in Mexico,
    and it was in Mexico where they did NOT slaughter the flocks and
    slash the egg supply, driving prices through the roof.

    If you had reading comprehension you might've avoided this stupid
    mistake but, I know what your fairy tale says. It don't make sense,
    it can't happen as you describe -- it's literally impossible --
    UNLESS it's man made.

    Is it?

    Is this another PlanDemic you're talking about?

    This bird flu which could not infect birds that could fly & migrate
    in the winter, is it man made or a hoax?



    Just a nut job.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Dec 3 00:18:55 2025
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    On 12/2/25 10:23 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:50 PM, JTEM wrote:


    So tinker bell here posts "Proof" that this obscenely deadly
    bird flu -- PANIC! -- is infecting people despite the massive
    slaughter of chicken flocks & the driving up of egg prices...

    On 12/1/25 6:39 PM, RonO wrote:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-
    human- case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    So I pointed out that it's "Cite" is NOT from Mexico or anywhere
    else south of the border. So it's further proof of the IMPOSSIBLE
    flu that infects birds but won't cross a boarder!

    Right?

    They didn't slaughter the flocks in Mexico, egg prices remained
    well below $2 a dozen when they were north of $10 in many places
    here...

    AND they're not screeching about cats getting it either, and
    somehow in Mexico viruses don't surviving cooking as they do
    here, as in the case it cited: Cat food!

    So this is what it says:

    Just a nut job.

    This is either a hoax -- entirely made up -- or it's another
    PlanDemic, another man made virus. Because nothing in nature
    works this way. Nothing in nature CAN working this way!
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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Dec 3 08:44:24 2025
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    On 12/2/2025 11:18 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 12/2/25 10:23 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:50 PM, JTEM wrote:


    So tinker bell here posts "Proof" that this obscenely deadly
    bird flu -- PANIC! -- is infecting people despite the massive
    slaughter of chicken flocks & the driving up of egg prices...

    On 12/1/25 6:39 PM, RonO wrote:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-
    human- case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    So I pointed out that it's "Cite" is NOT from Mexico or anywhere
    else south of the border. So it's further proof of the IMPOSSIBLE
    flu that infects birds but won't cross a boarder!

    Right?

    They didn't slaughter the flocks in Mexico, egg prices remained
    well below $2 a dozen when they were north of $10 in many places
    here...

    AND they're not screeching about cats getting it either, and
    somehow in Mexico viruses don't surviving cooking as they do
    here, as in the case it cited:-a Cat food!

    So this is what it says:

    Just a nut job.

    This is either a hoax -- entirely made up -- or it's another
    PlanDemic, another man made virus. Because nothing in nature
    works this way. Nothing in nature CAN working this way!

    Just a nut job. Mexico never mattered to the point that was being
    refuted. Just look at the title of your post. I just put up that
    reference as an example that humans were still being infected by the
    same virus that was infecting wild birds.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to talk-origins on Wed Dec 3 14:37:00 2025
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    On 12/3/25 9:44 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 11:18 PM, JTEM wrote:

    This is either a hoax -- entirely made up -- or it's another
    PlanDemic, another man made virus. Because nothing in nature
    works this way. Nothing in nature CAN working this way!

    Just a nut job.-a Mexico never mattered

    "Birds can't fly south in the winter so of course Mexico is
    immune to bird flu!"

    "Mexico doesn't matter because an entirely natural outbreak
    always respects borders!"

    "No virus can be destroyed in cooking, this is why humanity
    died out millennia ago!"

    You are clearly insane... delusional... I suppose you need
    to be a level-12 narcissist too, judging from your inability
    to admit the obvious.
    --
    https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5

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  • From jillery@69jpil69@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Dec 4 07:41:11 2025
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    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:23:46 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:50 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 12/1/25 6:39 PM, RonO wrote:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-human- >>>> case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    You are monumentally stupid, yes, but Washington State isn't in Mexico,
    and it was in Mexico where they did NOT slaughter the flocks and
    slash the egg supply, driving prices through the roof.

    If you had reading comprehension you might've avoided this stupid
    mistake but, I know what your fairy tale says. It don't make sense,
    it can't happen as you describe -- it's literally impossible --
    UNLESS it's man made.

    Is it?

    Is this another PlanDemic you're talking about?

    This bird flu which could not infect birds that could fly & migrate
    in the winter, is it man made or a hoax?



    Just a nut job.

    Ron Okimoto
    I have read that African swallows like to eat nuts.
    --
    To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Dec 4 08:12:38 2025
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    On 12/3/2025 1:37 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 12/3/25 9:44 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 11:18 PM, JTEM wrote:

    This is either a hoax -- entirely made up -- or it's another
    PlanDemic, another man made virus. Because nothing in nature
    works this way. Nothing in nature CAN working this way!

    Just a nut job.-a Mexico never mattered

    "Birds can't fly south in the winter so of course Mexico is
    immune to bird flu!"

    "Mexico doesn't matter because an entirely natural outbreak
    always respects borders!"

    "No virus can be destroyed in cooking, this is why humanity
    died out millennia ago!"

    You are clearly insane... delusional... I suppose you need
    to be a level-12 narcissist too, judging from your inability
    to admit the obvious.



    Just a nut job. Penguins are birds and they got infected by the
    migratory birds, just like the southern seals.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to talk-origins on Thu Dec 4 14:30:38 2025
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    On Thu, 04 Dec 2025 07:41:11 -0500
    jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:23:46 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/1/2025 9:50 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 12/1/25 6:39 PM, RonO wrote:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-human- >>>> case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    You are monumentally stupid, yes, but Washington State isn't in Mexico,
    and it was in Mexico where they did NOT slaughter the flocks and
    slash the egg supply, driving prices through the roof.

    If you had reading comprehension you might've avoided this stupid
    mistake but, I know what your fairy tale says. It don't make sense,
    it can't happen as you describe -- it's literally impossible --
    UNLESS it's man made.

    Is it?

    Is this another PlanDemic you're talking about?

    This bird flu which could not infect birds that could fly & migrate
    in the winter, is it man made or a hoax?



    Just a nut job.

    Ron Okimoto


    I have read that African swallows like to eat nuts.


    But how do they carry the cocnuts?

    (I assume a background in Monty Python here)
    --
    Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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  • From RonO@rokimoto557@gmail.com to talk-origins on Thu Dec 4 20:20:23 2025
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    On 12/3/2025 1:37 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 12/3/25 9:44 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 11:18 PM, JTEM wrote:

    This is either a hoax -- entirely made up -- or it's another
    PlanDemic, another man made virus. Because nothing in nature
    works this way. Nothing in nature CAN working this way!

    Just a nut job.-a Mexico never mattered

    "Birds can't fly south in the winter so of course Mexico is
    immune to bird flu!"

    "Mexico doesn't matter because an entirely natural outbreak
    always respects borders!"

    "No virus can be destroyed in cooking, this is why humanity
    died out millennia ago!"

    You are clearly insane... delusional... I suppose you need
    to be a level-12 narcissist too, judging from your inability
    to admit the obvious.



    https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2025/11/preprint-emergence-of-novel-reassorted.html

    I found this link reporting H5 infections in human patients in Mexico.
    One child was infected with H5N1, and another individual was confirmed
    to have been infected with a reassorted H5N2 avian influenza that had
    the Asian H5N1 H5 gene. The most recent case (Oct) only announced that
    it was an H5 avian influenza infection and did not give the NA
    designation. WHO may have identified the virus as H5N2 and claimed that
    a dog at the residence was also infected. This virus is a reassorted
    virus involving the H5N1 Asian virus. It has the Asian H5 gene of both genotypes of the Dairy virus B3.13 and D1.1. So the virus is
    reassorting with Mexican strains. The Mexican strain involved was a low
    path avian influenza and not a high path virus like H5N1.

    This article also has the genotypes of the H5N1 (still have those
    antigen gene designations) but are reassorted virus derived from the
    Asian H5N1. A3, B3.13, D1.1, D1.2, D1.3 etc they did not list all the reassorted virus genotypes. Genotype B3.13 and D1.1 have infected
    cattle, humans and commercial poultry.

    Ron Okimoto

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  • From jillery@69jpil69@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Dec 5 05:34:16 2025
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    On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 14:37:00 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/3/25 9:44 AM, RonO wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 11:18 PM, JTEM wrote:

    This is either a hoax -- entirely made up -- or it's another
    PlanDemic, another man made virus. Because nothing in nature
    works this way. Nothing in nature CAN working this way!

    Just a nut job.-a Mexico never mattered

    "Birds can't fly south in the winter so of course Mexico is
    immune to bird flu!"

    "Mexico doesn't matter because an entirely natural outbreak
    always respects borders!"

    "No virus can be destroyed in cooking, this is why humanity
    died out millennia ago!"

    You are clearly insane... delusional... I suppose you need
    to be a level-12 narcissist too, judging from your inability
    to admit the obvious.
    It's so easy to win arguments with made up quotes; if it works for
    Trump it must work for JTEM.
    --
    To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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  • From jillery@69jpil69@gmail.com to talk-origins on Fri Dec 5 05:34:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: talk.origins

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 14:30:38 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Dec 2025 07:41:11 -0500
    jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 09:23:46 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/1/2025 9:50 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 12/1/25 6:39 PM, RonO wrote:

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/first-ever-human- >> >>>> case-h5n5-avian-flu-confirmed-washington-state

    You are monumentally stupid, yes, but Washington State isn't in Mexico, >> >> and it was in Mexico where they did NOT slaughter the flocks and
    slash the egg supply, driving prices through the roof.

    If you had reading comprehension you might've avoided this stupid
    mistake but, I know what your fairy tale says. It don't make sense,
    it can't happen as you describe -- it's literally impossible --
    UNLESS it's man made.

    Is it?

    Is this another PlanDemic you're talking about?

    This bird flu which could not infect birds that could fly & migrate
    in the winter, is it man made or a hoax?



    Just a nut job.

    Ron Okimoto


    I have read that African swallows like to eat nuts.


    But how do they carry the cocnuts?
    Must resist spelling puns...
    (I assume a background in Monty Python here)
    --
    To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
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