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Probably the best ever collection for What If fans.

"The Collected What If?" edited by Robert Cowley
The Collected What If? Eminent Historians Imagine What Might
Have Been Hardcover rCo June 1, 2006
by Stephen E. Ambrose (Author), Caleb Carr (Author), David McCullough (Author), John Lukas (Author), John Keegan (Author), & 5 more

https://www.amazon.com/Collected-Eminent-Historians-Imagine-Might/dp/0399152385

What a bargain, looks like you can get the over 800 pages
delivered to your door for just $5.75!

Here is the description on goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/179217.The_Collected_What_If_Eminent_Historians_Imagine_What_Might_Have_Been

Here are two of the reviews:

Tom Darrow rated it really liked it
Actually two books in one. This is a collection of essays by many
well-known historians discussing the "what if's" of history. For
example, what if Jesus hadn't died on the cross or D-Day had failed?

Bad things about the book...
1) it's very long (over 800 pages). My copy is hardback, which makes it
even worse to carry around.
2) There are certain periods (especially WWII) that have many essays,
while other periods are skipped through very quickly.
3) the essays vary greatly in quality... most are easy to read, but
there are a few that are written in either too elementary of a style or
are too intellectual in their word choice.

Good things about this book...
1) there is a large variety in topics. Normally, I might not have chosen
to buy a book about the Reformation or dipliomatic history, but they are
all included here.
2) The essays run about 15-20 pages each, which is an ideal length to
read one before bed, or several in an afternoon.
3) Most of the essays are well written. They explain the concepts that
need to be explained for non-historians, but not in so much detail as to lessen the naritive style. (less)


Keith Parrish
Jun 22, 2011Keith Parrish rated it it was amazing -+ review of another edition
Great collection of essays by prominent historians that look at
alternative, or in the parlance of the historian counterfactual,
history. Some of it is scary, such as the prospect of Europe as
conquered by the Mongols (which was in fact more likely to have happened
than not), some of it amusing (such as when Robert E. Lee's army holds
fast on Cemetery Ridge outside Gettysburg following the victory at
Antietam. I've never before considered the Franco Prussian War to be the single most important e ...more
flag1 like -+ Like -+ see review
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On 7/26/2022 8:27 AM, a425couple wrote:

Probably the best ever collection for What If fans.

"The Collected What If?" edited by Robert Cowley
The Collected What If? Eminent Historians Imagine What Might
Have Been-a-a Hardcover rCo June 1, 2006
by Stephen E. Ambrose (Author), Caleb Carr (Author), David McCullough (Author), John Lukas (Author), John Keegan (Author), & 5 more

https://www.amazon.com/Collected-Eminent-Historians-Imagine-Might/dp/0399152385

What a bargain, looks like you can get the over 800 pages
delivered to your door for just $5.75!

Here is the description on goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/179217.The_Collected_What_If_Eminent_Historians_Imagine_What_Might_Have_Been

Here are two of the reviews:

Tom Darrow rated it really liked it
Actually two books in one. This is a collection of essays by many
well-known historians discussing the "what if's" of history. For
example, what if Jesus hadn't died on the cross or D-Day had failed?

Bad things about the book...
1) it's very long (over 800 pages). My copy is hardback, which makes it
even worse to carry around.
2) There are certain periods (especially WWII) that have many essays,
while other periods are skipped through very quickly.
3) the essays vary greatly in quality... most are easy to read, but
there are a few that are written in either too elementary of a style or
are too intellectual in their word choice.

Good things about this book...
1) there is a large variety in topics. Normally, I might not have chosen
to buy a book about the Reformation or dipliomatic history, but they are
all included here.
2) The essays run about 15-20 pages each, which is an ideal length to
read one before bed, or several in an afternoon.
3) Most of the essays are well written. They explain the concepts that
need to be explained for non-historians, but not in so much detail as to lessen the naritive style. (less)

Keith Parrish
Jun 22, 2011Keith Parrish rated it it was amazing-a -+-a review of another edition
Great collection of essays by prominent historians that look at
alternative, or in the parlance of the historian counterfactual,
history. Some of it is scary, such as the prospect of Europe as
conquered by the Mongols (which was in fact more likely to have happened than not), some of it amusing (such as when Robert E. Lee's army holds
fast on Cemetery Ridge outside Gettysburg following the victory at
Antietam. I've never before considered the Franco Prussian War to be the single most important e ...more
flag1 like -+ Like-a -+ see review

Thanks. Put it on my wish list for "someday, when I have money".
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
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On 7/26/2022 1:11 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 7/26/2022 8:27 AM, a425couple wrote:

Probably the best ever collection for What If fans.

"The Collected What If?" edited by Robert Cowley
The Collected What If? Eminent Historians Imagine What Might
Have Been-a-a Hardcover rCo June 1, 2006
by Stephen E. Ambrose (Author), Caleb Carr (Author), David McCullough
(Author), John Lukas (Author), John Keegan (Author), & 5 more

https://www.amazon.com/Collected-Eminent-Historians-Imagine-Might/dp/0399152385

What a bargain, looks like you can get the over 800 pages
delivered to your door for just $5.75!

Here is the description on goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/179217.The_Collected_What_If_Eminent_Historians_Imagine_What_Might_Have_Been
---
Tom Darrow rated it really liked it
Actually two books in one. This is a collection of essays by many
well-known historians discussing the "what if's" of history. For
example, what if Jesus hadn't died on the cross or D-Day had failed?

Bad things about the book...
1) it's very long (over 800 pages). My copy is hardback, which makes
it even worse to carry around.
2) There are certain periods (especially WWII) that have many essays,
while other periods are skipped through very quickly.
3) the essays vary greatly in quality... most are easy to read, but
there are a few that are written in either too elementary of a style
or are too intellectual in their word choice.

Good things about this book...
1) there is a large variety in topics. Normally, I might not have
chose ----- snip

Thanks.-a Put it on my wish list for "someday, when I have money".

Are you in the USA? or elsewhere?


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On 7/27/2022 9:18 AM, a425couple wrote:

On 7/26/2022 1:11 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 7/26/2022 8:27 AM, a425couple wrote:

Probably the best ever collection for What If fans.

"The Collected What If?" edited by Robert Cowley
The Collected What If? Eminent Historians Imagine What Might
Have Been-a-a Hardcover rCo June 1, 2006
by Stephen E. Ambrose (Author), Caleb Carr (Author), David McCullough
(Author), John Lukas (Author), John Keegan (Author), & 5 more

https://www.amazon.com/Collected-Eminent-Historians-Imagine-Might/dp/0399152385

What a bargain, looks like you can get the over 800 pages
delivered to your door for just $5.75!

Here is the description on goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/179217.The_Collected_What_If_Eminent_Historians_Imagine_What_Might_Have_Been
---
Tom Darrow rated it really liked it
Actually two books in one. This is a collection of essays by many
well-known historians discussing the "what if's" of history. For
example, what if Jesus hadn't died on the cross or D-Day had failed?

Bad things about the book...
1) it's very long (over 800 pages). My copy is hardback, which makes
it even worse to carry around.
2) There are certain periods (especially WWII) that have many essays,
while other periods are skipped through very quickly.
3) the essays vary greatly in quality... most are easy to read, but
there are a few that are written in either too elementary of a style
or are too intellectual in their word choice.

Good things about this book...
1) there is a large variety in topics. Normally, I might not have
chose ----- snip

Thanks.-a Put it on my wish list for "someday, when I have money".

Are you in the USA?-a or elsewhere?

US. I'm just still digging myself out of financial depths from the
sub-prime mortgage destruction of the economy, pay off debt and deal
with deferred for many years expenses.
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
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On 7/27/2022 12:44 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 7/27/2022 9:18 AM, a425couple wrote:

On 7/26/2022 1:11 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 7/26/2022 8:27 AM, a425couple wrote:

Probably the best ever collection for What If fans.

"The Collected What If?" edited by Robert Cowley
The Collected What If? Eminent Historians Imagine What Might
Have Been-a-a Hardcover rCo June 1, 2006
by Stephen E. Ambrose (Author), Caleb Carr (Author), David
McCullough (Author), John Lukas (Author), John Keegan (Author), & 5
more

https://www.amazon.com/Collected-Eminent-Historians-Imagine-Might/dp/0399152385

What a bargain, looks like you can get the over 800 pages
delivered to your door for just $5.75!

Here is the description on goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/179217.The_Collected_What_If_Eminent_Historians_Imagine_What_Might_Have_Been
---
Tom Darrow rated it really liked it
Actually two books in one. This is a collection of essays by many
well-known historians discussing the "what if's" of history. For
example, what if Jesus hadn't died on the cross or D-Day had failed?

Bad things about the book...
1) it's very long (over 800 pages). My copy is hardback, which makes
it even worse to carry around.
2) There are certain periods (especially WWII) that have many
essays, while other periods are skipped through very quickly.
3) the essays vary greatly in quality... most are easy to read, but
there are a few that are written in either too elementary of a style
or are too intellectual in their word choice.

Good things about this book...
1) there is a large variety in topics. Normally, I might not have
chose ----- snip

Thanks.-a Put it on my wish list for "someday, when I have money".

Are you in the USA?-a or elsewhere?

US.-a I'm just still digging myself out of financial depths from the sub-prime mortgage destruction of the economy, pay off debt and deal
with deferred for many years expenses.

Email me at the listed address,
a425couple@hotmail.com
with your mailing address and I will send you
a copy.
My best wishes to a fellow newsgroup user.

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 12:44:22 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

Are you in the USA?-a or elsewhere?

US. I'm just still digging myself out of financial depths from the >sub-prime mortgage destruction of the economy, pay off debt and deal
with deferred for many years expenses.

I'm recently retired and no question things have not gone as expected
(COVID-19 leading to reduced value of my half of the family business,
death of wife in March) but we're solvent and so far I'm keeping a
fairly tight ship financially though some tough bills (furnace
replacement, major dental) and debt free except for monthly Visa.

Things could always be better but could also be much worse.
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On 7/28/2022 9:49 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 12:44:22 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

Are you in the USA?|e-a or elsewhere?

US. I'm just still digging myself out of financial depths from the
sub-prime mortgage destruction of the economy, pay off debt and deal
with deferred for many years expenses.

I'm recently retired and no question things have not gone as expected (COVID-19 leading to reduced value of my half of the family business,
death of wife in March) but we're solvent and so far I'm keeping a
fairly tight ship financially though some tough bills (furnace
replacement, major dental) and debt free except for monthly Visa.

Things could always be better but could also be much worse.

My best wishes to your for a better future.

(And I remain glad your ability to post continues.)


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On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 07:51:00 -0700, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 7/28/2022 9:49 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 12:44:22 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

Are you in the USA?-a or elsewhere?

US. I'm just still digging myself out of financial depths from the
sub-prime mortgage destruction of the economy, pay off debt and deal
with deferred for many years expenses.

I'm recently retired and no question things have not gone as expected
(COVID-19 leading to reduced value of my half of the family business,
death of wife in March) but we're solvent and so far I'm keeping a
fairly tight ship financially though some tough bills (furnace
replacement, major dental) and debt free except for monthly Visa.

Things could always be better but could also be much worse.

My best wishes to your for a better future.

(And I remain glad your ability to post continues.)

Thanks for the kind words - I actually posted the evening of the
funeral but didn't refer to it until a week later.

I'm told it takes 2 years to get beyond something like this - hope
they're wrong!
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On 7/29/22 1:39 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 07:51:00 -0700, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 7/28/2022 9:49 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 12:44:22 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

Are you in the USA?|e-a or elsewhere?

US. I'm just still digging myself out of financial depths from the
sub-prime mortgage destruction of the economy, pay off debt and deal
with deferred for many years expenses.

I'm recently retired and no question things have not gone as expected
(COVID-19 leading to reduced value of my half of the family business,
death of wife in March) but we're solvent and so far I'm keeping a
fairly tight ship financially though some tough bills (furnace
replacement, major dental) and debt free except for monthly Visa.

Things could always be better but could also be much worse.

My best wishes to your for a better future.

(And I remain glad your ability to post continues.)

Thanks for the kind words - I actually posted the evening of the
funeral but didn't refer to it until a week later.

I'm told it takes 2 years to get beyond something like this - hope
they're wrong!

I am sorry for your loss.



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On 07/29/2022 01:39 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 07:51:00 -0700, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 7/28/2022 9:49 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 12:44:22 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

Are you in the USA?|e-a or elsewhere?

US. I'm just still digging myself out of financial depths from the
sub-prime mortgage destruction of the economy, pay off debt and deal
with deferred for many years expenses.

I'm recently retired and no question things have not gone as expected
(COVID-19 leading to reduced value of my half of the family business,
death of wife in March) but we're solvent and so far I'm keeping a
fairly tight ship financially though some tough bills (furnace
replacement, major dental) and debt free except for monthly Visa.

Things could always be better but could also be much worse.

My best wishes to your for a better future.

(And I remain glad your ability to post continues.)

Thanks for the kind words - I actually posted the evening of the
funeral but didn't refer to it until a week later.

I'm told it takes 2 years to get beyond something like this - hope
they're wrong!

I also am sorry for your loss. I wish you the best, in terms of
support in helping you go on in life, in relationships and finances.

Length of time,,, can vary so much depending on circumstances.

What area of the world are you living in?

Meanwhile, in my little world, I seem to be making some progress
with my new computer finally allowing me to get back to posting.
So, I can post to my newsgroups, but it is increasingly looking
like they are mostly close to death. Hmm.


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On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 09:50:32 -0700, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

Meanwhile, in my little world, I seem to be making some progress
with my new computer finally allowing me to get back to posting.
So, I can post to my newsgroups, but it is increasingly looking
like they are mostly close to death. Hmm.

Regretably I agree.

Sometimes I feel like Aetius holding off the barbarian hordes.

One of the regrets of my life is that I failed to say yes to
purchasing the 6 hardcover volume set of Gibbon's Decline + Fall for
Cdn$100 when I had the chance. Figured I'd take a chance on Amazon
when I got home from my trip - very bad move.

Aetius was of course the model for Asimov's General Bel Riose in
Foundation + Empire and some have gone as far to say that it was near plagiarization. Given it was one of Asimov's earlier novels I expect
he was a lot hungrier than he was later on.

Keep well old friend...
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