• propulsion for Moon and Mars

    From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Tue Jan 6 16:24:44 2026
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    Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

    Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.
    This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
    a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
    And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
    Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.
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  • From Rufus@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Sat Jan 10 12:04:15 2026
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    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

    Ask that question when it can reach the ceiling of your mother's dining
    room.


    Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.
    This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648


    No explanation of what's supposedly going on there. Just a couple laser pointer spots on the wall. Nothing to see here. Can you elaborate?

    Maybe you need more tin foil over your oscilloscope.

    BTW, there's something borked with your other vimeos that are referenced
    at the end of this video. They don't play, they only flash.


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no reason
    why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a theoretical
    explanation for that?


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
    a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
    And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
    Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

    Just use an external power source for now, until you demonstrate some
    actual thrust. Later perhaps you can find a battery with lower internal resistance. The flying submarine (coming soon) will have an unlimited
    payload weight budget, right?
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  • From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Sat Jan 17 11:06:46 2026
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    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

    Ask that question when it can reach the ceiling of your mother's dining
    room.


    Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.
    This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648


    No explanation of what's supposedly going on there. Just a couple laser pointer spots on the wall. Nothing to see here. Can you elaborate?

    Maybe you need more tin foil over your oscilloscope.

    BTW, there's something borked with your other vimeos that are referenced
    at the end of this video. They don't play, they only flash.


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no reason
    why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a theoretical explanation for that?


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
    a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
    And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
    Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

    Just use an external power source for now, until you demonstrate some
    actual thrust. Later perhaps you can find a battery with lower internal resistance. The flying submarine (coming soon) will have an unlimited payload weight budget, right?

    Complimenti allrCOASPS team : nemo propheta in patria


    rCarCa..
    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS
    and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that
    this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati
    on I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes
    of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell doubters! rCa..

    rCa.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm
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  • From Rufus@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Mon Jan 19 21:01:43 2026
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    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

    Ask that question when it can reach the ceiling of your mother's dining room.


    Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.
    This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648


    No explanation of what's supposedly going on there. Just a couple laser pointer spots on the wall. Nothing to see here. Can you elaborate?

    Maybe you need more tin foil over your oscilloscope.

    BTW, there's something borked with your other vimeos that are referenced
    at the end of this video. They don't play, they only flash.


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no reason
    why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a theoretical explanation for that?


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
    a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
    And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
    Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

    Just use an external power source for now, until you demonstrate some actual thrust. Later perhaps you can find a battery with lower internal resistance. The flying submarine (coming soon) will have an unlimited payload weight budget, right?

    Complimenti allAASPS team : nemo propheta in patria


    aa..
    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS
    and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that
    this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati
    on I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes
    of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell doubters! a..

    a.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm



    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves that
    their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?
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  • From Von Ottone@vonottone@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Tue Jan 20 05:47:48 2026
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    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and
    Mars?

    Ask that question when it can reach the ceiling of your mother's
    dining room.


    Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle
    of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same
    amount of energy used.
    This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic
    pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier
    https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648


    No explanation of what's supposedly going on there. Just a couple
    laser pointer spots on the wall. Nothing to see here. Can you
    elaborate?

    Maybe you need more tin foil over your oscilloscope.

    BTW, there's something borked with your other vimeos that are
    referenced at the end of this video. They don't play, they only
    flash.


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not
    only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the
    fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no
    reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the
    previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a remote
    control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
    http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then with downward thrust
    when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees
    http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
    Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
    ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

    Just use an external power source for now, until you demonstrate some
    actual thrust. Later perhaps you can find a battery with lower
    internal resistance. The flying submarine (coming soon) will have an
    unlimited payload weight budget, right?

    Complimenti all-AASPS team : nemo propheta in patria


    -a-a..
    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS
    and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that this
    works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati on I
    constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes of the
    ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell doubters!
    -a..

    -a.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm



    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves that
    their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

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  • From E.Laureti@user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid to sci.space.policy on Tue Jan 20 06:53:55 2026
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    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

    Ask that question when it can reach the ceiling of your mother's dining room.


    Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.
    This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648


    No explanation of what's supposedly going on there. Just a couple laser pointer spots on the wall. Nothing to see here. Can you elaborate?

    Maybe you need more tin foil over your oscilloscope.

    BTW, there's something borked with your other vimeos that are referenced at the end of this video. They don't play, they only flash.


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a theoretical explanation for that?


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
    a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
    And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
    Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

    Just use an external power source for now, until you demonstrate some actual thrust. Later perhaps you can find a battery with lower internal resistance. The flying submarine (coming soon) will have an unlimited payload weight budget, right?

    Complimenti all-AASPS team : nemo propheta in patria


    -a-a..
    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that
    this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati
    on I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes
    of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell doubters! -a..

    -a.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm



    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves that
    their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/subspace
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  • From Rufus@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Tue Jan 20 21:00:32 2026
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    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not
    only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the
    fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no
    reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    No reply. It's eerie how the PNN Magic SuperDrive guys clam up when
    somebody asks technical stuff. You'd almost think they don't know.


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the
    previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a remote
    control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
    http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then with downward thrust
    when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees


    Ok, so the warp drive works pretty good when it's flying downhill. The acceleration ramps up to just about 1 G!

    SKEPTICS, PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!!

    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS
    and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that this
    works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati on I
    constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes of the
    ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell doubters!
    ?..

    ?.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm


    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves that
    their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

    I see... you've never actually seen it flying either. You simply take
    it on faith, like any devout believer should.

    Amen.
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  • From Von Ottone@vonottone@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Wed Jan 21 06:42:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 21:00:32 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser,
    not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending
    on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no
    reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    No reply. It's eerie how the PNN Magic SuperDrive guys clam up when
    somebody asks technical stuff. You'd almost think they don't know.


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of
    the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a
    remote control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with
    upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then with
    downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees


    Ok, so the warp drive works pretty good when it's flying downhill. The acceleration ramps up to just about 1 G!

    SKEPTICS, PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!!

    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support
    ASPS and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that
    this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati on
    I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes of
    the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell
    doubters!
    ?..

    ?.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm


    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves that
    their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

    I see... you've never actually seen it flying either. You simply take
    it on faith, like any devout believer should.

    Amen.

    You are an idiot, I'll not lose my time trying to explain pnn to you.
    Go shit away from us !
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  • From Von Ottone@vonottone@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Wed Jan 21 09:22:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 21:00:32 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser,
    not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending
    on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no
    reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    No reply. It's eerie how the PNN Magic SuperDrive guys clam up when
    somebody asks technical stuff. You'd almost think they don't know.


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of
    the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a
    remote control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with
    upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then with
    downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees


    Ok, so the warp drive works pretty good when it's flying downhill. The acceleration ramps up to just about 1 G!

    SKEPTICS, PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!!

    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support
    ASPS and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that
    this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati on
    I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes of
    the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell
    doubters!
    ?..

    ?.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm


    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves that
    their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

    I see... you've never actually seen it flying either. You simply take
    it on faith, like any devout believer should.

    Amen.

    Absolutely not. I have assisted to pnn tests on pendulum, it is as simple
    as that.

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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to sci.space.policy on Wed Jan 21 12:06:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On 21/01/2026 11:22, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 21:00:32 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser,
    not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending
    on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no
    reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    No reply. It's eerie how the PNN Magic SuperDrive guys clam up when
    somebody asks technical stuff. You'd almost think they don't know.


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of
    the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a
    remote control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with
    upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then with >>>>>>> downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees


    Ok, so the warp drive works pretty good when it's flying downhill. The
    acceleration ramps up to just about 1 G!

    SKEPTICS, PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!!

    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support
    ASPS and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that
    this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati on
    I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes of >>>>> the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell
    doubters!
    ?..

    ?.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm


    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves that
    their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

    I see... you've never actually seen it flying either. You simply take
    it on faith, like any devout believer should.

    Amen.

    Absolutely not. I have assisted to pnn tests on pendulum, it is as simple
    as that.

    No, flying is not as simple as a pendulum.
    --
    Mikko
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  • From Von Ottone@vonottone@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Wed Jan 21 11:07:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 12:06:38 +0200, Mikko wrote:

    On 21/01/2026 11:22, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 21:00:32 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, >>>>>>>> not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on >>>>>>>> the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no
    reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    No reply. It's eerie how the PNN Magic SuperDrive guys clam up when
    somebody asks technical stuff. You'd almost think they don't know.


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of >>>>>>>> the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a >>>>>>>> remote control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with
    upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then with >>>>>>>> downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees


    Ok, so the warp drive works pretty good when it's flying downhill.
    The acceleration ramps up to just about 1 G!

    SKEPTICS, PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!!

    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support >>>>>> ASPS and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that
    this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati on >>>>>> I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes
    of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell
    doubters!
    ?..

    ?.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm


    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves
    that their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

    I see... you've never actually seen it flying either. You simply take
    it on faith, like any devout believer should.

    Amen.

    Absolutely not. I have assisted to pnn tests on pendulum, it is as
    simple as that.

    No, flying is not as simple as a pendulum.

    That does not affects the fact that pnn works.
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  • From Rufus@ru@ru.ru to sci.space.policy on Wed Jan 21 20:22:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 12:06:38 +0200, Mikko wrote:

    On 21/01/2026 11:22, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 21:00:32 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, >>>>>>>> not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on >>>>>>>> the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no >>>>>>> reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    No reply. It's eerie how the PNN Magic SuperDrive guys clam up when
    somebody asks technical stuff. You'd almost think they don't know.


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of >>>>>>>> the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a >>>>>>>> remote control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with >>>>>>>> upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then with >>>>>>>> downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees


    Ok, so the warp drive works pretty good when it's flying downhill.
    The acceleration ramps up to just about 1 G!

    SKEPTICS, PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!!

    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support >>>>>> ASPS and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that >>>>>> this works when they demonstrated the battery powered version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati on >>>>>> I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple successes >>>>>> of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell
    doubters!
    ?..

    ?.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm


    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves
    that their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

    I see... you've never actually seen it flying either. You simply take >>> it on faith, like any devout believer should.

    Amen.

    Absolutely not. I have assisted to pnn tests on pendulum, it is as
    simple as that.

    No, flying is not as simple as a pendulum.

    That does not affects the fact that pnn works.

    Translation: "Ok, I lied before, but I swear I'm not lying this time!
    Trust me on that!"
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  • From Von Ottone@vonottone@pnn.org to sci.space.policy on Thu Jan 22 06:32:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.space.policy

    On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 20:22:36 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 12:06:38 +0200, Mikko wrote:

    On 21/01/2026 11:22, Von Ottone wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 21:00:32 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    Von Ottone <vonottone@pnn.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:01:43 -0800, Rufus wrote:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Rufus <ru@ru.ru> posted:

    E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser,
    not only moves from left to right but goes off scale depending
    on the fact that the
    thrust increases over time.

    Based on your previous explanation of the PNN drive, there's no
    reason why the thrust should build up slowly. Can you give a
    theoretical explanation for that?


    No reply. It's eerie how the PNN Magic SuperDrive guys clam up
    when somebody asks technical stuff. You'd almost think they don't
    know.


    The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of
    the previous one) but powered by batteries and operated with a
    remote control on a Kern electronic scale display. Once with
    upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf And then
    with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees


    Ok, so the warp drive works pretty good when it's flying downhill.
    The acceleration ramps up to just about 1 G!

    SKEPTICS, PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!!!!!!!!!

    For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly
    support ASPS and the PNN drive.
    I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
    Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
    In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved
    that this works when they demonstrated the battery powered
    version.
    My personal failure to get thrust out of the attempted replicati
    on I constructed does not detract at all from the multiple
    successes of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
    I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell
    doubters!
    ?..

    ?.. From Nova Astronautica n.186 www.asps.it/vol45.htm


    Why is it difficult for even ASPS members to convince themselves
    that their magical drive really works?

    I mean, either the submarine flies or it doesn't, right?

    Uhmm... right?

    Hey Rosco, I am absolutely *sure* that the prototype WORKS.
    No matter what others say.

    I see... you've never actually seen it flying either. You simply
    take it on faith, like any devout believer should.

    Amen.

    Absolutely not. I have assisted to pnn tests on pendulum, it is as
    simple as that.

    No, flying is not as simple as a pendulum.

    That does not affects the fact that pnn works.

    Translation: "Ok, I lied before, but I swear I'm not lying this time!
    Trust me on that!"

    Believe what you want.
    I'm not losing my time with you.
    Amen
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