• Re: What is "present time" in physics?

    From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity on Sat Feb 21 10:07:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    On 09/04/2024 10:10 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 09/04/2024 08:10 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
    The problem of relativity is the understanding of the notion of present
    time, that is to say the notion of simultaneity (which should not be
    confused with the notion of chronotropy).
    Is there on the planet Fomalhaut IV, a princess Alexandra who lives
    there, at the same time as me; me who is here on earth?
    That is to say in the same present moment?
    It must be said that yes, since whatever procedure of universal
    synchronization I adopt, whether mine or that of Albert Einstein, there
    is necessarily a LABEL, and only one, to characterize the existence of
    Alexandra simultaneous with mine.
    But according to the method of "synchronization of present time", we
    will not have the same label.
    Einstein uses procedure M, Hachel procedure H.
    Procedure M is the most practical, procedure H is the most true.
    Procedure M is the most practical, because it derives from the
    synchronization of the present time on a point M placed very far away in
    an imaginary fourth dimension, and at an equal distance from all the
    points constituting our universe. This gives an abstract universal time,
    but very useful, where the notion of universal present time is flat, and
    reciprocal. If A exists at the same time as B for M, then B exists at
    the same time as A for M. It is very practical.
    Procedure H proposed by Richard Hachel is less practical, but truer. It
    is less practical, because the notion of symmetry of the present time
    will not be absolute. But it is truer, physically more accurate, and
    more beautiful. It will remain eternally true experimentally, and
    eternally more beautiful philosophically. What could be more beautiful
    than saying to a child: "This horse in this meadow, this moon in the
    sky, this galaxy in this telescope, you see them instantly, as they are
    today, live-live".
    What is uglier than human thought, which thinks it is intelligent,
    even though it is full of stupid mockery, conceptual imbecilities,
    simply because it can say, as all morons say: "The speed of light is c,
    we know it, we have measured it, experimented with it, and we get
    3.10^8m/s".
    This is the most stupid reflection in the history of humanity, proposed
    by mocking morons (Python, John Baez) who think they are funny and
    intelligent, authorized mockers, but who have not understood anything
    about the notion of universal anisochrony and the two possible ways in
    which we can (or even MUST be able to) synchronize the clocks of the
    universe.

    R.H.

    The (physical) space-time is a (mathematical) coordinate space, and
    the (physical) Space-Time is the continuous manifold of the field number formalism of QM combined with the inertial-systems'
    differential-system GR, where according to Einstein the GR is
    a differential-system parameterized by a "the time", and in
    QM the time-reversibility has never been falsified, with the
    time-ordering of the path-integral being pretty much classical,
    a "clock hypothesis" is not un-usual, that with respect to a
    coordinate space, yet there's only a forward-pointing ray of time,
    between zero and one a vector field over the entirety of Space-Time,
    that in deep space in absolute vacuum at absolute zero equals one.

    Clocks either slow or meet, ....

    That "there are no closed time-like curves" and "time reversibility
    has never been falsified" then as with regards to null geodesics
    and any usual ideas about using the time-like as simply an extra
    "Fourth Dimension" for only mathematical extrapolation, has that
    physically it might as well just be considered "the gradient" as
    with regards to "t" everywhere universally parameterizing the differential-system and time-ordering of GR and QM.

    This sort of theory can for example reduce functional freedom
    from 10^120 to approximately 1, while that "time dilation plus
    length contraction equals space contraction" is simply enough
    as of the FitzGeraldian and associated considerations of the
    Heaviside and Larmour with respect to Lorentz, while in QM
    there are both low-energy and high-energy supersymmetry, as
    whether "virtual" particles are just another model of continuum
    dynamics.

    I.e., all one theory, all one manifold, all one t.

    The d'Espagnat on a model philosopher's model physicist's
    model philosophy's model physics, "objective realism",
    with Broglie-Bohm and Aspect-like extra-locality, as
    with regards to "anti-realist model physics", helps
    explore then why making for a clock hypothesis and
    a "the time" as Einstein does in "Out of My Later Years",
    why curved space-time is just a model in the Cartesian
    for "space contraction" then that though its consideration
    as a "Fourth Dimension" asks a bit much of a simple numerical
    resource of a mathematical/physical continuum, continuous
    manifold.


    What time is now?



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  • From Thomas Heger@ttt_heg@web.de to sci.physics.relativity on Mon Feb 23 12:25:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    Am Samstag000021, 21.02.2026 um 19:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
    On 09/04/2024 10:10 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 09/04/2024 08:10 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
    The problem of relativity is the understanding of the notion of present
    time, that is to say the notion of simultaneity (which should not be
    confused with the notion of chronotropy).
    Is there on the planet Fomalhaut IV, a princess Alexandra who lives
    there, at the same time as me; me who is here on earth?
    That is to say in the same present moment?
    It must be said that yes, since whatever procedure of universal
    synchronization I adopt, whether mine or that of Albert Einstein, there
    is necessarily a LABEL, and only one, to characterize the existence of
    Alexandra simultaneous with mine.
    But according to the method of "synchronization of present time", we
    will not have the same label.
    Einstein uses procedure M, Hachel procedure H.
    Procedure M is the most practical, procedure H is the most true.
    Procedure M is the most practical, because it derives from the
    synchronization of the present time on a point M placed very far away in >>> an imaginary fourth dimension, and at an equal distance from all the
    points constituting our universe. This gives an abstract universal time, >>> but very useful, where the notion of universal present time is flat, and >>> reciprocal. If A exists at the same time as B for M, then B exists at
    the same time as A for M. It is very practical.
    Procedure H proposed by Richard Hachel is less practical, but truer. It
    is less practical, because the notion of symmetry of the present time
    will not be absolute. But it is truer, physically more accurate, and
    more beautiful. It will remain eternally true experimentally, and
    eternally more beautiful philosophically. What could be more beautiful
    than saying to a child: "This horse in this meadow, this moon in the
    sky, this galaxy in this telescope, you see them instantly, as they are
    today, live-live".
    What is uglier than human thought, which thinks it is intelligent,
    even though it is full of stupid mockery, conceptual imbecilities,
    simply because it can say, as all morons say: "The speed of light is c,
    we know it, we have measured it, experimented with it, and we get
    3.10^8m/s".
    This is the most stupid reflection in the history of humanity, proposed
    by mocking morons (Python, John Baez) who think they are funny and
    intelligent, authorized mockers, but who have not understood anything
    about the notion of universal anisochrony and the two possible ways in
    which we can (or even MUST be able to) synchronize the clocks of the
    universe.

    R.H.

    The (physical) space-time is a (mathematical) coordinate space, and
    the (physical) Space-Time is the continuous manifold of the field number
    formalism of QM combined with the inertial-systems'
    differential-system GR, where according to Einstein the GR is
    a differential-system parameterized by a "the time", and in
    QM the time-reversibility has never been falsified, with the
    time-ordering of the path-integral being pretty much classical,
    a "clock hypothesis" is not un-usual, that with respect to a
    coordinate space, yet there's only a forward-pointing ray of time,
    between zero and one a vector field over the entirety of Space-Time,
    that in deep space in absolute vacuum at absolute zero equals one.

    Clocks either slow or meet, ....

    That "there are no closed time-like curves" and "time reversibility
    has never been falsified" then as with regards to null geodesics
    and any usual ideas about using the time-like as simply an extra
    "Fourth Dimension" for only mathematical extrapolation, has that
    physically it might as well just be considered "the gradient" as
    with regards to "t" everywhere universally parameterizing the
    differential-system and time-ordering of GR and QM.

    This sort of theory can for example reduce functional freedom
    from 10^120 to approximately 1, while that "time dilation plus
    length contraction equals space contraction" is simply enough
    as of the FitzGeraldian and associated considerations of the
    Heaviside and Larmour with respect to Lorentz, while in QM
    there are both low-energy and high-energy supersymmetry, as
    whether "virtual" particles are just another model of continuum
    dynamics.

    I.e., all one theory, all one manifold, all one t.

    The d'Espagnat on a model philosopher's model physicist's
    model philosophy's model physics, "objective realism",
    with Broglie-Bohm and Aspect-like extra-locality, as
    with regards to "anti-realist model physics", helps
    explore then why making for a clock hypothesis and
    a "the time" as Einstein does in "Out of My Later Years",
    why curved space-time is just a model in the Cartesian
    for "space contraction" then that though its consideration
    as a "Fourth Dimension" asks a bit much of a simple numerical
    resource of a mathematical/physical continuum, continuous
    manifold.


    What time is now?


    Now is actually now!

    Time is most likely a local phenomenon and the point called 'now'
    devides the continuum of time into past and future.

    There 'future' is everything happening later than 'now' and 'past' means everything earlier.

    But we usually don't know, what happens now in remote locations, hence
    the so called 'hypersheet of the present' is mainly invisible.

    What we can actually see belongs to our own past light cone (only!),
    because the future is invisible and also the present.

    What we can see is therefore belonging to our own past.

    Now the question: what 'topology' does spacetime actually have?

    Well, I personally think, that bing bang theory is mainly wrong, because
    the universe has no beginning and no end and therefore it makes not
    sense to ask the question, which time 'now' has.

    Time as we use it is based upon an arbitrary reference point in time, at
    which we start to count days and years, hence beginn to counting of time.

    This setting of a start had been done repeatedly in the past and for
    various staring points.

    Today we mainly use the alleged birth of Christ, which is assumed to
    have happend 2026 years, 1 month and 23 days ago.

    But we could use essentially any point in time, that is well defined by whatever means we have.

    Something located at that staring point in space and time will evolve
    into the enviroment and roughly twothousandtweentysix years later ends
    up here.

    But possibly somewhere in a very remote past some kind of void actually
    split apart and started to evolve into the future, while creating what
    we call 'universe' today.

    That would require some kind of balance, to make energy conservation and conservation of angular momentum possible.

    The easiest way toachieve this would be, that positive time has a hidden companion, which runs into the opposite dierction and that had also
    created an 'anti-universe', which is only filled with anti-matter and
    passes invisible right through our own universe, but into a direction we
    call 'past'.

    Seen from there we are invisible, have a time running backwards and
    consist of anti-matter.

    TH





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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity on Mon Feb 23 13:06:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/23/2026 3:25 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
    Am Samstag000021, 21.02.2026 um 19:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
    On 09/04/2024 10:10 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 09/04/2024 08:10 AM, Richard Hachel wrote:
    The problem of relativity is the understanding of the notion of present >>>> time, that is to say the notion of simultaneity (which should not be
    confused with the notion of chronotropy).
    Is there on the planet Fomalhaut IV, a princess Alexandra who lives
    there, at the same time as me; me who is here on earth?
    That is to say in the same present moment?
    It must be said that yes, since whatever procedure of universal
    synchronization I adopt, whether mine or that of Albert Einstein, there >>>> is necessarily a LABEL, and only one, to characterize the existence of >>>> Alexandra simultaneous with mine.
    But according to the method of "synchronization of present time", we
    will not have the same label.
    Einstein uses procedure M, Hachel procedure H.
    Procedure M is the most practical, procedure H is the most true.
    Procedure M is the most practical, because it derives from the
    synchronization of the present time on a point M placed very far
    away in
    an imaginary fourth dimension, and at an equal distance from all the
    points constituting our universe. This gives an abstract universal
    time,
    but very useful, where the notion of universal present time is flat,
    and
    reciprocal. If A exists at the same time as B for M, then B exists at
    the same time as A for M. It is very practical.
    Procedure H proposed by Richard Hachel is less practical, but truer. It >>>> is less practical, because the notion of symmetry of the present time
    will not be absolute. But it is truer, physically more accurate, and
    more beautiful. It will remain eternally true experimentally, and
    eternally more beautiful philosophically. What could be more beautiful >>>> than saying to a child: "This horse in this meadow, this moon in the
    sky, this galaxy in this telescope, you see them instantly, as they are >>>> today, live-live".
    What is uglier than human thought, which thinks it is intelligent,
    even though it is full of stupid mockery, conceptual imbecilities,
    simply because it can say, as all morons say: "The speed of light is c, >>>> we know it, we have measured it, experimented with it, and we get
    3.10^8m/s".
    This is the most stupid reflection in the history of humanity, proposed >>>> by mocking morons (Python, John Baez) who think they are funny and
    intelligent, authorized mockers, but who have not understood anything
    about the notion of universal anisochrony and the two possible ways in >>>> which we can (or even MUST be able to) synchronize the clocks of the
    universe.

    R.H.

    The (physical) space-time is a (mathematical) coordinate space, and
    the (physical) Space-Time is the continuous manifold of the field number >>> formalism of QM combined with the inertial-systems'
    differential-system GR, where according to Einstein the GR is
    a differential-system parameterized by a "the time", and in
    QM the time-reversibility has never been falsified, with the
    time-ordering of the path-integral being pretty much classical,
    a "clock hypothesis" is not un-usual, that with respect to a
    coordinate space, yet there's only a forward-pointing ray of time,
    between zero and one a vector field over the entirety of Space-Time,
    that in deep space in absolute vacuum at absolute zero equals one.

    Clocks either slow or meet, ....

    That "there are no closed time-like curves" and "time reversibility
    has never been falsified" then as with regards to null geodesics
    and any usual ideas about using the time-like as simply an extra
    "Fourth Dimension" for only mathematical extrapolation, has that
    physically it might as well just be considered "the gradient" as
    with regards to "t" everywhere universally parameterizing the
    differential-system and time-ordering of GR and QM.

    This sort of theory can for example reduce functional freedom
    from 10^120 to approximately 1, while that "time dilation plus
    length contraction equals space contraction" is simply enough
    as of the FitzGeraldian and associated considerations of the
    Heaviside and Larmour with respect to Lorentz, while in QM
    there are both low-energy and high-energy supersymmetry, as
    whether "virtual" particles are just another model of continuum
    dynamics.

    I.e., all one theory, all one manifold, all one t.

    The d'Espagnat on a model philosopher's model physicist's
    model philosophy's model physics, "objective realism",
    with Broglie-Bohm and Aspect-like extra-locality, as
    with regards to "anti-realist model physics", helps
    explore then why making for a clock hypothesis and
    a "the time" as Einstein does in "Out of My Later Years",
    why curved space-time is just a model in the Cartesian
    for "space contraction" then that though its consideration
    as a "Fourth Dimension" asks a bit much of a simple numerical
    resource of a mathematical/physical continuum, continuous
    manifold.


    What time is now?


    Now is actually now!

    What about the now, now... ;^D

    https://youtu.be/nRGCZh5A8T4

    lol. Always cracked me up.




    Time is most likely a local phenomenon and the point called 'now'
    devides the continuum of time into past and future.

    There 'future' is everything happening later than 'now' and 'past' means everything earlier.

    But we usually don't know, what happens now in remote locations, hence
    the so called 'hypersheet of the present' is mainly invisible.

    What we can actually see belongs to our own past light cone (only!),
    because the future is invisible and also the present.

    What we can see is therefore belonging to our own past.

    Now the question: what 'topology' does spacetime actually have?

    Well, I personally think, that bing bang theory is mainly wrong, because
    the universe has no beginning and no end and therefore it makes not
    sense to ask the question, which time 'now' has.

    Time as we use it is based upon an arbitrary reference point in time, at which we start to count days and years, hence beginn to counting of time.

    This setting of a start had been done repeatedly in the past and for
    various staring points.

    Today we mainly use the alleged birth of Christ, which is assumed to
    have happend 2026 years, 1 month and 23 days ago.

    But we could use essentially any point in time, that is well defined by whatever means we have.

    Something located at that staring point in space and time will evolve
    into the enviroment and roughly twothousandtweentysix years later ends
    up here.

    But possibly somewhere in a very remote past some kind of void actually split apart and started to evolve into the future, while creating what
    we call 'universe' today.

    That would require some kind of balance, to make energy conservation and conservation of angular momentum possible.

    The easiest way toachieve this would be, that positive time has a hidden companion, which runs into the opposite dierction and that had also
    created an 'anti-universe', which is only filled with anti-matter and
    passes invisible right through our own universe, but into a direction we call 'past'.

    Seen from there we are invisible, have a time running backwards and
    consist of anti-matter.

    TH






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