• Talking About Swallowing Your Pride :-)

    From Physfitfreak@physfitfreak@gmail.com to sci.physics on Wed Dec 3 18:56:15 2025
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    Hehe :)

    Americans at last have gone for copying the Iranian Shahed 136 attack
    drones. First were the Russians, then the Chinese, and now, ... the
    Americans! Hehe :)

    Makes your asses burn, I know.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIBZIdmYOHs

    Israelis, not knowing what "pride" is in the first place, copied it the
    day it was introduced by Iran but fucked it up with trying to make it a
    better than Shahed 136.

    Americans are calling their copy, "Lucas", and say the reason they went
    for it is the economy of it vs what it can do. But the American copy is
    about $100000 each which is 20 times more expensive than Iranian version
    (and I bet my boots they're going to be sold to the U.S. military much
    more than this price).

    A factor of 20 times less expensive for Shahed 136 isn't as good as the
    usual factor of 200 times cheaper that just about any identical warfare
    or technical equipment in Iran enjoys, compared to the American built
    one, but 20 is still something to reckon with. So Iran still stays on
    the safe side when the real war begins.





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  • From Physfitfreak@physfitfreak@gmail.com to sci.physics on Wed Dec 3 21:59:07 2025
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    On 12/3/25 6:56 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:

    Hehe :)

    Americans at last have gone for copying the Iranian Shahed 136 attack drones. First were the Russians, then the Chinese, and now, ... the Americans! Hehe :)

    Makes your asses burn, I know.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIBZIdmYOHs

    Israelis, not knowing what "pride" is in the first place, copied it the
    day it was introduced by Iran but fucked it up with trying to make it a better than Shahed 136.

    Americans are calling their copy, "Lucas", and say the reason they went
    for it is the economy of it vs what it can do. But the American copy is about $100000 each which is 20 times more expensive than Iranian version (and I bet my boots they're going to be sold to the U.S. military much
    more than this price).

    A factor of 20 times less expensive for Shahed 136 isn't as good as the usual factor of 200 times cheaper that just about any identical warfare
    or technical equipment in Iran enjoys, compared to the American built
    one, but 20 is still something to reckon with. So Iran still stays on
    the safe side when the real war begins.







    I got informed of that development last September and didn't look into
    it at all. Any military force that's not there for just ripping off its
    own people would go for it. So I was under the impression that only in September the Americans' decision had been made. But now I see Americans
    went for Shahed 136 copy in mid July!... i.e., only a couple of weeks
    after seeing what these drones did to Israel within only 12 days.

    This weapon had made it possible for Iran to completely drain Israeli defenses, and at the same time arrange for the best targets in Israel to
    get totally destroyed by the stronger weapons. Only in 12 days! Imagine
    what would happen to Israel in 12 years of it.

    Americans, being just cowards, never mentioned Israeli-Iran war results
    behind such decision. All they said and say is the reason for the
    decision had to do with the results in Ukraine. But the timing of the
    decision says otherwise.

    Ukraine's war and the successful use of Shahed 136 in it is old news.
    Years of it have come and passed. But Americans picked just 2 weeks
    after nearly begging Iran to stop attacking Israel, to realize that they didn't have a meaningful defense against it, and what's best was to have
    such things added to their own military forces.

    But as I said in the previous post, I don't think Americans can hack it.
    It will turn into yet another project to suck blood out of government's
    body: too expensive to have the advantages that Shahed 134 has. Just
    like the fate of Israeli Harops that copied Shahed 136 some years back.

    The weak point that this clever weapon aims at, are built in and
    integral to the shrewd capitalistic nations run by Nazis working for the billionaires. As long as you exist, you can't have this weapon work for
    you the way it is designed for :-)

    You will come back to this message a few years from now, to read it again!






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