• Another concept for Dawn Davenport to not get

    From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Mon Nov 10 13:11:22 2025
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    Now this will be completely lost on the D.I.D. system but,
    the point here isn't whether or not anyone agrees with an
    idea, it was to discuss the idea itself.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1105024124554227

    It's a discussion on how things might work, if the idea
    is correct, and NOT a discussion on whether or not the
    idea is correct.

    ...neil degrasse tyson actually has to pull that
    guy AWAY from the "True/Not true" argument, lead him
    back to the topic...

    See, it's very easy to reject an idea. But if you haven't
    fully aired the idea, explored how it would work, it's
    implications, what are you dismissing?

    I'll tell you what you're dismissing: Anything that
    challenges the status quo.

    In your case there's another level... we'll call it
    "Insanity," for lack of a better word, where you don't
    seem to be able to recall much less apply knowledge
    from one sentence to the next. But I'm not going to
    mention this fact. Not I. Well. Yes I am. In fact, I
    just did.

    You seem to be aware that time and even space does not
    appear to exist for the photon, that it is effectively
    everywhere it can potentially be, and you even seem to
    grasp that the same is not true for humans. But then
    you turn around and dismiss the fact that BECAUSE our
    rules are so dramatically different from that of the
    photon, we perceive not at all subtle differences in
    time.

    Yes, believe it or not, because our concept of time
    does not exist for a photon, things don't happen the
    same way for us and the photon...

    Nope. You can't grasp this. You can't apply what you
    know elsewhere to this more narrow example.

    It's gone.

    And you also can't grasp that if tachyons exist then
    we can send messages backwards through time. Instead
    you just dogmatically ignore evidence and pretend
    that it's all settled, tachyons don't exist.

    Well it's not settled. And if they exist we can send
    messages backwards through time.
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Mon Nov 10 15:46:55 2025
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    On 11/10/2025 12:11 PM, JTEM wrote:

    Now this will be completely lost on the D.I.D. system but,
    the point here isn't whether or not anyone agrees with an
    idea, it was to discuss the idea itself.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1105024124554227

    It's a discussion on how things might work, if the idea
    is correct, and NOT a discussion on whether or not the
    idea is correct.

    -a-a-a-a ...neil degrasse tyson actually has to pull that
    guy AWAY from the "True/Not true" argument, lead him
    back to the topic...

    See, it's very easy to reject an idea. But if you haven't
    fully aired the idea, explored how it would work, it's
    implications, what are you dismissing?

    I'll tell you what you're dismissing:-a Anything that
    challenges the status quo.

    In your case there's another level... we'll call it
    "Insanity," for lack of a better word, where you don't
    seem to be able to recall much less apply knowledge
    from one sentence to the next. But I'm not going to
    mention this fact. Not I. Well. Yes I am. In fact, I
    just did.

    You seem to be aware that time and even space does not
    appear to exist for the photon, that it is effectively
    everywhere it can potentially be, and you even seem to
    grasp that the same is not true for humans. But then
    you turn around and dismiss the fact that BECAUSE our
    rules are so dramatically different from that of the
    photon, we perceive not at all subtle differences in
    time.

    Yes, believe it or not, because our concept of time
    does not exist for a photon, things don't happen the
    same way for us and the photon...

    Nope. You can't grasp this. You can't apply what you
    know elsewhere to this more narrow example.

    It's gone.

    And you also can't grasp that if tachyons exist then
    we can send messages backwards through time. Instead
    you just dogmatically ignore evidence and pretend
    that it's all settled, tachyons don't exist.

    Well it's not settled. And if they exist we can send
    messages backwards through time.


    Please stop trying to have multiple conversations with me, okay?!

    As I have already told you, tachyons are not part of the Standard Model.
    Why? Because, they don't exist (the simplest explanation), and even
    if they are someday discovered, as with isolating quarks (which do
    exist), it may be physically impossible to manipulate them.

    Simple, right? And, now, please stop posting your same crap over & over!!

    Dawn
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Mon Nov 10 18:01:43 2025
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    On 11/10/25 4:46 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Please stop trying to have multiple conversations with me, okay?!

    It's the same conversation, approached differently to try and
    avoid that brick wall in your head.

    As I have already told you, tachyons are not part of the Standard Model.

    #1. You also told me that you're not an expert, so stop saying things predicated on the notion that you are.

    #2. The subject was tachyons and the implications of same. I don't care
    what you misunderstand any models to be saying. Even for someone as
    brain damaged as you it should be obvious that if tachyons exist then
    sending information backwards in time is possible.

    #3. There is evidence consistent with the existence of tachyons. You
    can claim that the evidence is less than compelling but you can't say
    they are excluded, because they are not.
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Tue Nov 11 12:45:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 11/10/2025 5:01 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 11/10/25 4:46 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Please stop trying to have multiple conversations with me, okay?!

    It's the same conversation, approached differently to try and
    avoid that brick wall in your head.

    As I have already told you, tachyons are not part of the Standard Model.

    #1.-a You also told me that you're not an expert, so stop saying things predicated on the notion that you are.

    #2.-a The subject was tachyons and the implications of same. I don't care what you misunderstand any models to be saying. Even for someone as
    brain damaged as you it should be obvious that if tachyons exist then
    sending information backwards in time is possible.

    #3.-a There is evidence consistent with the existence of tachyons. You
    can claim that the evidence is less than compelling but you can't say
    they are excluded, because they are not.


    Yes, as of today, they are excluded! Here are the 17 particles that compromise the Standard Model:

    Fermions (Matter Particles)

    -aQuarks:
    Up (u)
    Down (d)
    Charm (c)
    Strange (s)
    Top (t)
    Bottom (b)

    Leptons:

    Electron (\(e^{-}\))
    Muon (\(\mu ^{-}\))
    Tau (\(\tau ^{-}\))
    Electron neutrino (\(\nu _{e}\))
    Muon neutrino (\(\nu _{\mu }\))
    Tau neutrino (\(\nu _{\tau }\))

    Bosons (Force Carriers and Higgs)

    Gauge Bosons:
    Photon (\(\gamma \))
    Gluon (\(g\))
    W boson (\(W^{\pm }\))
    Z boson (\(Z^{0}\))

    Scalar Boson:
    Higgs boson (H)

    As you & anyone else whatsoever can see for themselves, tachyons are not listed!! (Hee, hee.)

    Dawn
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Tue Nov 11 14:35:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 11/11/25 1:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Yes, as of today, they are excluded!

    No. Are you on the spectrum or something? You have a VERY rigid
    way of thinking, excessively limited. Here, for instance, you
    reveal that you believe anything not accepted as fact by the
    mainstream is excluded. But "Excluded" means that the evidence
    rules it out, and that's not the case at all here. There is
    actually some supporting evidence FOR their existence, albeit
    not compelling.

    ...and then you do a Copy & Paste dump of random info
    hoping to bullshit people into thinking you're not an idiot.
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Tue Nov 11 18:29:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 11/11/2025 1:35 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 11/11/25 1:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Yes, as of today, they are excluded!

    No. Are you on the spectrum or something?-a You have a VERY rigid
    way of thinking, excessively limited. Here, for instance, you
    reveal that you believe anything not accepted as fact by the
    mainstream is excluded. But "Excluded" means that the evidence
    rules it out, and that's not the case at all here. There is
    actually some supporting evidence FOR their existence, albeit
    not compelling.

    -a-a-a-a ...and then you do a Copy & Paste dump of random info
    hoping to bullshit people into thinking you're not an idiot.


    My undergraduate degree is in computer science, and I have a MBA from
    the University of Iowa.

    As with so many things, one cannot, at least on empirical grounds,
    "prove a negative". and so, it will likely be impossible to ever prove
    the nonexistence of tachyons. Having said that, by the principle of
    parsimony ("Occam's Razor"), we are free to say that such superluminal particles do not exist.

    You are, of course, "free to believe" in whatever! Regardless,
    physicists have not yet included tachyons in the Standard Model,
    relegating them instead to the realm of the "hypothetical".
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  • From Nathan Smith@nathansmith@posteo.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Tue Nov 11 19:44:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> writes:

    On 11/11/25 1:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Yes, as of today, they are excluded!

    No. Are you on the spectrum or something? You have a VERY rigid
    way of thinking, excessively limited.

    People on the spectrum being too rigid? You should see how rigid
    neurotypicals are. They DEMAND their social norms rain supremacy and
    will put anyone who doesn't wish to follow social norms through absolute
    hell. Neurotypical women use to eat tape worms to stay thin to fit in
    and can't say much has changed since then either. Neurotypicals are the
    problem and should go fuck themselves.
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  • From pursent100@pursent100@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Tue Nov 11 20:40:26 2025
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    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 11/11/2025 1:35 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 11/11/25 1:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Yes, as of today, they are excluded!

    No. Are you on the spectrum or something?-a You have a VERY rigid
    way of thinking, excessively limited. Here, for instance, you
    reveal that you believe anything not accepted as fact by the
    mainstream is excluded. But "Excluded" means that the evidence
    rules it out, and that's not the case at all here. There is
    actually some supporting evidence FOR their existence, albeit
    not compelling.

    -a-a-a-a-a ...and then you do a Copy & Paste dump of random info
    hoping to bullshit people into thinking you're not an idiot.


    My undergraduate degree is in computer science, and I have a MBA from
    the University of Iowa.

    As with so many things, one cannot, at least on empirical grounds,
    "prove a negative". and so, it will likely be impossible to ever prove
    the nonexistence of tachyons.-a Having said that, by the principle of parsimony ("Occam's Razor"), we are free to say that such superluminal particles do not exist.

    You are, of course, "free to believe" in whatever!-a Regardless,
    physicists have not yet included tachyons in the Standard Model,
    relegating them instead to the realm of the "hypothetical".


    hahahaHHAHAHAHHAAH , WHAT A FK'IN LOADOF BULLSHIT
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  • From Vincent Maycock@ma.ycock@gm.ail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Tue Nov 11 20:55:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 18:29:01 -0600, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/11/2025 1:35 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 11/11/25 1:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Yes, as of today, they are excluded!

    No. Are you on the spectrum or something?a You have a VERY rigid
    way of thinking, excessively limited. Here, for instance, you
    reveal that you believe anything not accepted as fact by the
    mainstream is excluded. But "Excluded" means that the evidence
    rules it out, and that's not the case at all here. There is
    actually some supporting evidence FOR their existence, albeit
    not compelling.

    aaaa ...and then you do a Copy & Paste dump of random info
    hoping to bullshit people into thinking you're not an idiot.


    My undergraduate degree is in computer science, and I have a MBA from
    the University of Iowa.

    As with so many things, one cannot, at least on empirical grounds,
    "prove a negative". and so, it will likely be impossible to ever prove
    the nonexistence of tachyons. Having said that, by the principle of >parsimony ("Occam's Razor"), we are free to say that such superluminal >particles do not exist.

    You are, of course, "free to believe" in whatever! Regardless,
    physicists have not yet included tachyons in the Standard Model,
    relegating them instead to the realm of the "hypothetical".

    Their imaginary mass might rule out their existence from a theoretical perspective.
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Tue Nov 11 23:35:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 11/11/2025 10:55 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 18:29:01 -0600, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/11/2025 1:35 PM, JTEM wrote:
    On 11/11/25 1:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Yes, as of today, they are excluded!

    No. Are you on the spectrum or something?-a You have a VERY rigid
    way of thinking, excessively limited. Here, for instance, you
    reveal that you believe anything not accepted as fact by the
    mainstream is excluded. But "Excluded" means that the evidence
    rules it out, and that's not the case at all here. There is
    actually some supporting evidence FOR their existence, albeit
    not compelling.

    -a-a-a-a ...and then you do a Copy & Paste dump of random info
    hoping to bullshit people into thinking you're not an idiot.


    My undergraduate degree is in computer science, and I have a MBA from
    the University of Iowa.

    As with so many things, one cannot, at least on empirical grounds,
    "prove a negative". and so, it will likely be impossible to ever prove
    the nonexistence of tachyons. Having said that, by the principle of
    parsimony ("Occam's Razor"), we are free to say that such superluminal
    particles do not exist.

    You are, of course, "free to believe" in whatever! Regardless,
    physicists have not yet included tachyons in the Standard Model,
    relegating them instead to the realm of the "hypothetical".

    Their imaginary mass might rule out their existence from a theoretical perspective.

    Yeah, and if only such were in pill form!!
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,sci.physics,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,alt.alien.research on Wed Nov 12 00:35:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 11/11/25 9:44 PM, Nathan Smith wrote:

    People on the spectrum being too rigid?

    Absolutely. They tend to be binary -- yes or no, right or
    wrong, *This* means *That*. Very little nuance and by very
    little I mean none at all. Sarcasm is lost on them, because
    you're stating [A] but meaning [B] and [B] always means
    [B].

    Why this is so horrible is that they know this. You can
    sit down someone on the spectrum and spell it all out to
    them, and they can absorb every word then turn around and
    never so much as doubt their over rigid, black & white
    world because it "Feels" right.

    THAT is what makes it annoying!

    Someone doesn't "Get" sarcasm? Who cares. But even if you
    explain the sarcasm to them they'll reject it because that's
    not what it means!
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  • From JTEM@jtem01@gmail.com to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Wed Nov 12 00:44:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 11/11/25 7:29 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    My undergraduate degree

    Higher ed is already facing a lot of heat right now. They
    don't need you dragging it through the mud.

    As with so many things, one cannot, at least on empirical grounds,
    "prove a negative".

    We don't have to. Retrocausality is the inescapable conclusion
    here. It must exist. Information must travel backwards in time,
    and does.

    According to Einstein, we don't just perceive a movement
    backwards in time, our perception is reality. It's a different
    reality than that of the photon but the photon's reality is
    also correct. For it. Just not us.

    I'm guessing that it's your inability to wrap your little
    disordered mind around this one fact that is preventing you
    from moving forward.
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  • From Nathan Smith@nathansmith@posteo.com to sci.skeptic,sci.physics,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,alt.alien.research on Wed Nov 12 01:42:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> writes:

    On 11/11/25 9:44 PM, Nathan Smith wrote:

    People on the spectrum being too rigid?

    Absolutely. They tend to be binary -- yes or no, right or
    wrong, *This* means *That*. Very little nuance and by very
    little I mean none at all. Sarcasm is lost on them, because
    you're stating [A] but meaning [B] and [B] always means
    [B].

    Why this is so horrible is that they know this. You can
    sit down someone on the spectrum and spell it all out to
    them, and they can absorb every word then turn around and
    never so much as doubt their over rigid, black & white
    world because it "Feels" right.

    THAT is what makes it annoying!

    Someone doesn't "Get" sarcasm? Who cares. But even if you
    explain the sarcasm to them they'll reject it because that's
    not what it means!

    I am in no way a professional but maybe you are on the spectrum. Ever
    thought about getting your head checked out? What you are describing is
    pretty close to how you act. Pointing it out and denying also engaging
    in it is common among people on the spectrum who are completely
    unaware. It is hard to get thrown through bullshit and not become a
    asshole. On the bright side still better than being a dumbass
    neurotypical who will make someones life hell for not giving the correct
    amount of eye contact. The correct amount is not documented anywhere and
    asking is rude and doesn't get answers yet we are somehow excepted to
    know? If being rigid is the alternative to whatever the fuck is up with neurotypicals so be it.
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  • From Henderson@henderson@e.mail to sci.skeptic,sci.physics,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,alt.alien.research on Wed Nov 12 14:04:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    JTEM wrote:

    On 11/11/25 9:44 PM, Nathan Smith wrote:

    People on the spectrum being too rigid?

    Absolutely. They tend to be binary -- yes or no, right or
    wrong, This means That. Very little nuance and by very
    little I mean none at all. Sarcasm is lost on them, because
    you're stating [A] but meaning [B] and [B] always means
    [B].

    Why this is so horrible is that they know this. You can
    sit down someone on the spectrum and spell it all out to
    them, and they can absorb every word then turn around and
    never so much as doubt their over rigid, black & white
    world because it "Feels" right.

    THAT is what makes it annoying!

    Someone doesn't "Get" sarcasm? Who cares. But even if you
    explain the sarcasm to them they'll reject it because that's
    not what it means!


    LOL!
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  • From Henderson@henderson@e.mail to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Wed Nov 12 14:05:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    JTEM wrote:

    On 11/11/25 7:29 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    My undergraduate degree

    Higher ed is already facing a lot of heat right now. They
    don't need you dragging it through the mud.


    LOL!


    As with so many things, one cannot, at least on empirical grounds,
    "prove a negative".

    We don't have to. Retrocausality is the inescapable conclusion
    here. It must exist. Information must travel backwards in time,
    and does.

    According to Einstein, we don't just perceive a movement
    backwards in time, our perception is reality. It's a different
    reality than that of the photon but the photon's reality is
    also correct. For it. Just not us.

    I'm guessing that it's your inability to wrap your little
    disordered mind around this one fact that is preventing you
    from moving forward.

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  • From Henderson@henderson@e.mail to sci.skeptic,alt.paranormal,alt.atheism,sci.physics,alt.alien.research on Wed Nov 12 16:42:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    JTEM wrote:

    On 11/11/25 1:45 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Yes, as of today, they are excluded!

    No. Are you on the spectrum or something? You have a VERY rigid
    way of thinking, excessively limited. Here, for instance, you
    reveal that you believe anything not accepted as fact by the
    mainstream is excluded. But "Excluded" means that the evidence
    rules it out, and that's not the case at all here. There is
    actually some supporting evidence FOR their existence, albeit
    not compelling.

    ...and then you do a Copy & Paste dump of random info
    hoping to bullshit people into thinking you're not an idiot.


    LOL!
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