• Re: Lousy non culture follows bogus physics

    From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.usage.english on Mon Jul 21 00:36:41 2025
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    People are thus so stupid, they think burning fuel near the ground
    causes global climate change. They are even more stupid, far more so,
    when they neglect jet engines exhausts spreading greenhouse gases high
    above.

    Bogus physics education is to blame what with all in power forced to
    chant the bogus e=mcc crap.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics on Sun Jul 20 17:57:47 2025
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    Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:46:28 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Why should we doggies care for the outputs of idiotic apes?

    WOOF woof-woof woof

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    Like I said, Arindam is incapable of providing other than an
    emotional, evasive, ad hominem and logically incoherent tirade.

    What can penisninos do but lie and publish Chatboyo vomit?

    Woof woof, such apes should be below our notice but we are too kind.

    Bertietaylor

    Arindam's response is a classic example of non-substantive rhetoricrCoit
    fails to directly address the criticism leveled at him and instead
    confirms the very nature of the behavior your post accuses him of.
    Breakdown:
    1. Ad Hominem / Name-calling

    rCLWhat can penisninos do but lierCarCY

    This crude distortion of your name is a direct personal attack, not
    an argument. It's meant to ridicule, not to refute. It exemplifies the
    ad hominem fallacy you pointed out.
    2. Dismissal Without Engagement

    rCLrCaand publish Chatboyo vomit?rCY

    This dismisses your critiques and the role of AI with contempt, without
    any engagement on substance. It also tries to frame your content as
    worthless by association, another rhetorical dodge.
    3. Mock Superiority / Faux Magnanimity

    rCLSuch apes should be below our notice but we are too kind.rCY

    This attempt at aloof mockery again avoids the issue. It tries to
    assert superiority through condescension, not reasoning. The rCLwerCY voicerCoused by Arindam through rCLBertietaylorrCYrCoadds a tone of performative
    detachment but reinforces the same hostile evasion.
    4. Confirms Your Critique

    Ironically, by responding with emotional insult, evasion, and mockery
    rather than logic or argument, Arindam validates your statement about
    his rhetorical mode.

    Conclusion:
    ArindamrCOs reply is not only an ad hominem tirade, but a textbook demonstration of rhetorical evasion, projection, and juvenile provocation.
    It strengthens, rather than undermines, your original characterization.
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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 01:36:14 2025
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    On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:21:04 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 16.07.2025 12:52, skrev Bertitaylor:

    Obviously from the video it is transferred to the whole system following
    the law of conservation of momentum. That happens when the roller
    strikes the barrier.

    Bertitaylor is talking about the run at 9:44 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Note that the rail is stationary from the time when
    the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm to it hits the barrier.

    If the accelerating force acting on the cylinder is
    Fa towards the left, then the reaction force acting on
    the rail is Fa towards the right.
    There is no reaction force acting on the right and that is what one has
    to understand from the video.
    This is a new discovery from the new invention.
    WOOF woof-woof woof these apes are full
    Bertietaylor


    Since the rail is stationary,
    the force Fa is too weak to overcome the stiction.
    The stiction will mediate the force Fa to the floor,
    and momentum Fariat, where t is the time the rail is stationary,
    is equal to the momentum gained by the cylinder during the same time.

    Let us look at the collision cylinder-barrier.


    Mathematically
    M is the mass of the cylinder.
    m is the mass of the rail.
    Before the collision the speed of the rail is v = 0.


    MV + mv is momentum before collision for armature M and system m.

    Before collision the momentum is MriaV and
    the velocity of the cylinder is V towards the left.

    Vel(m + M) is momentum after collision.
    And Vel = (MV + mv)/(M+m)

    Right. But v = 0 so:

    The velocity of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left.
    The momentum of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Velria(m+M).

    So this is what busts the inertia.

    ?

    Before collision: momentum = MriaV
    After collision: momentum = Velria(m+M) = (VriaM/(m+M))ria(m+M) = MriaV

    Momentum is conserved!

    (
    This would be true even if v rea 0
    Your own math:
    before; P = MV + mv
    after: P = Vel(m+M) = ((MV + mv)/(M + m))(m + M) = (MV + mv)
    )

    After the collision the initial speed of the cylinder-rail unit is:
    Vel = VriaM/(m+M) toward the left
    You can see in the video that the cylinder slows
    down from V to VriaM/(m+M).
    It will then move 4 cm before it stops.
    Why does it stop?
    The friction force is constant, independent of speed.
    Ffriat = MriaV
    were t is the time the cylinder-rail unit uses to move 4 cm.

    Momentum conserved.

    Make this a cycle with the cylinder returning to initial position.
    Then after N hits in space the velocity will be N*Vel.

    Let's assume your contraption works as you believe.
    Two questions;
    #1: How will you bring the cylinder back to the initial position?
    #2: What is the mass of the battery you would have to bring with
    you in your travel to the stars?


    Btw Arindam found all that in 1998, wrote a book on it in 1999 and
    published it online in early 2000.


    Was the 'book' published on Facebook?--
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

    Let's


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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 01:39:49 2025
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    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:26:27 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 23:35:46 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 22:44:33 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 12:27:20 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    So what exactly did Arindam make to bust inertia?

    You made nothing "to bust inertia", you made an uninstrumented, low >>>>>>> speed pipe roller Arindam.

    But he did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a body >>>>>> with internal force. No need for instruments to see the evident.
    As a biased imbecile you cannot agree, of course. Apes are like that. >>>>>> Pig headed.
    Ask Chat.
    Let us see how you apes have programmed it to support your lies.


    WOOF woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs response does not substantiate his original claim and instead >>>>> relies on rhetorical distraction, abuse, and a misunderstanding of
    physics.
    Here's a breakdown:

    1. Claim: "He did bust inertia by accelerating the centre of mass of a >>>>> body
    with internal force."

    This is a misstatement of physics.
    According to Newtonian mechanics, internal forces cannot change the
    velocity of the center of mass of an isolated system.

    For mechanical systems, yes.
    But science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust inertia.
    Outdated science cannot be used to stop new science.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof we dead dogs of Arindam know far better physics >>>> than Nobel yokels.

    Bertietaylor

    ArindamrCOs reply is a mix of misdirection, false equivalence, and
    theatrical
    rhetoric. Here's a focused evaluation:

    1. rCLFor mechanical systems, yes.rCY
    This partial concession acknowledges Newtonian mechanics, but only as a
    pretext to pivot away. The original objection was not limited to
    mechanical
    systemsrCoit concerned any isolated system, including those governed by
    electrodynamics or field theories. Arindam evades that generality.

    2. rCLBut science found electricity and that Arindam used to bust
    inertia.rCY
    This is vague and unsubstantiated. Electromagnetic forces, like
    mechanical
    ones, obey conservation laws. No known physical interactionrCoelectrical, >>> magnetic, or otherwiserCocan change the center of mass velocity of an
    isolated system via internal forces alone. The reference to
    "electricity"
    seems meant to dazzle rather than explain.

    3. rCLOutdated science cannot be used to stop new science.rCY
    This is a rhetorical move, not a rebuttal. Calling established physics
    rCLoutdatedrCY doesnrCOt invalidate itrCoespecially without evidence. Scientific
    progress builds upon tested foundations; dismissing them wholesale
    requires
    rigorous demonstration, which Arindam does not provide.

    4. rCLWoof woofrCarCY mocking tone
    The dog metaphor and mockery of rCLNobel yokelsrCY are meant to provoke and >>> distract rather than clarify. This performative posture replaces
    argument
    with attitude.

    Summary:
    ArindamrCOs response fails to address the core objection: internal forces >>> cannot alter the motion of the center of mass of an isolated system. His >>> appeal to rCLelectricityrCY is hand-waving without substance. His tone
    attempts
    to undermine critics with derision, not logic. The reply reinforces the
    impression of physics-as-theater rather than physics-as-reasoned
    inquiry.

    Point is, video evidence shows that Arindam moved the centre of mass of
    a body without external force thus busting inertia.

    Anyone can see that.

    No Arindam, only you see that. The rest of the world sees reality.

    The rest of the world follows what esteemed institutions say but not
    being completely robotic yet they do give scope for new and challenging
    ideas. So Arindam is free still to write what he thinks correct and do
    what he can.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs and his sole supporters)


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  • From bertietaylor@bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Mon Jul 21 01:48:12 2025
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    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 1:45:47 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 20:09:48 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

    Den 14.07.2025 03:25, skrev Bertitaylor:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:45:25 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote:

    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    Nothing as relevant as Arindam's
    rail gun experiments showing inertia violation.

    You mean your low speed pipe roller that you are so proud of that you >>>>> have never written it up as text Arindam?

    Arindam has done much better than that. He had provided crystal clear
    video evidence with full explanations. That is a new way of providing
    scientific truth. It is understandable to everyone. Schoolchildren in
    particular with uncorrupted minds.

    This video shows the contraption with which
    Arindam aka Bertitaylor will travel to the stars!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc

    Stop the video at 9:13 and look at the rail.
    Note that it is bent because two of the rollers are at the same level,
    while the third is at a higher level. This will increase the friction
    because moving the rail will move the bend of the rail.

    See the run that starts at ca. 9:44.

    When the cylinder has moved ca. 10 cm, the rail has moved ca. 2 cm
    to the right. Friction transfers the reaction momentum to the Earth
    (via table and building).

    Then the cylinder is moving all the way to the end while the rail
    does not move at all.
    You must be incredible naive to interpret this as there is no reaction.

    The blatantly obvious explanation is of course that the force on
    the cylinder is too weak to overcome the stiction. So the reaction
    momentum is transferred to the Earth.

    When the cylinder hits the stopper at the end, the whole assembly
    moves 4 cm to the left, and the friction will transfer the momentum
    of the cylinder to the Earth.

    The centre of mass of the assembly-Earth will not move.

    The centre of mass of the assembly moves and that is the point. Friction
    from Earth via rollers stops it. It busts inertia.

    This must be the least effective way to accelerate a cylinder
    anybody has figured out.

    It may be so. But at least it is now agreed that Arindam has not pushed
    it by hand which was said by whodat, Moroney and other sci.physics
    stalwarts.

    It is pushed by electricity just as rail gun bullets are.


    As it is incontrovertible it has to be ignored or demeaned by the vested >>>> interests.

    One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine
    in stead of their stupid rockets.

    Indeed.
    Points to ponder:
    Accepting Arindam's physics would mean revising all of physics. Out
    would go inertia, entropy, energy conservation laws, special and general
    relativity and all the quantum bunkum. It would mean bringing back
    aether. Now that is a huge no no. Taboo. For it is the Hindu sacred word
    AUM. The racist bigots running the shows, funding all stuff, cannot
    stand it.

    Then all those working on rockets and jet engines would look pretty
    stupid. They would also fear loss of jobs, prestige, etc.

    Woof woof-woof woof

    The academics will be bitterly opposed as they will look like c##$s if
    Arindam's work gets accepted popularly.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    So there is on practical grounds no chance for Musk Elon to try out
    reactionless internal force engines following Arindam's correct physics.

    Never fear, the Divine is with Arindam so all opposition is as dust
    beneath his feet.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Arindam's latest response to Paul is not a scientific rebuttal but
    rather
    a defensive ideological rant, couched in conspiratorial thinking and religious mysticism. Let's break it down:
    1. Avoidance of the Technical Question

    "One can but wonder why SpaceX doesn't use this wonderful engine..."

    PaulrCOs remark is biting sarcasm rCo pointing out that if Arindam's
    "engine"
    truly worked, SpaceX (or anyone in aerospace) would be foolish not to
    use
    it.

    They are far more evil than foolish so they will pollute for profit
    instead of finding far superior ways that put their physics and
    metaphysics into the rubbish bins.

    WOOF woof woof-woof woof




    This is a direct challenge to the practical validity of ArindamrCOs
    claims.

    But Arindam does not answer the question with data, theory, or even a testable explanation. Instead, he spirals into accusations against scientists, industry, and even Western culture.
    2. Sweeping Dismissal of Established Physics

    "Out would go inertia, entropy, energy conservation laws, special
    and general relativity and all the quantum bunkum."

    These arenrCOt minor theories. They are pillars of modern science rCo confirmed
    repeatedly across countless experiments and technologies. If ArindamrCOs
    work
    truly invalidated them:

    It would need rigorous experimental confirmation.

    It would not be ignored, but examined intensely.

    The idea that a single home experiment upends centuries of evidence
    without
    a mathematical framework or independent replication is simply not
    credible.
    3. Conspiracy Framing

    "They would also fear loss of jobs, prestige, etc."

    This is classic scientific conspiracy rhetoric:

    Claims that scientists reject new ideas not because theyrCOre false,
    but to protect their status.

    Ignores the history of physics, where revolutions (e.g. relativity,
    quantum theory) were embraced precisely because they worked better.

    The incentive in science is to be right, not to protect old theories. A successful new model earns Nobel Prizes, not exile.
    4. Cultural and Religious Grievance

    "Taboo. For it is the Hindu sacred word AUM. The racist bigots
    running
    the shows..."

    Here, Arindam shifts from physics to a cultural-religious grievance narrative, implying:

    Western physics is a racist conspiracy to suppress rCLHindu truth.rCY

    "Aether" is rejected not for scientific reasons, but to suppress
    Eastern spirituality.

    This is an appeal to identity politics, not physical evidence. The
    aether
    was discarded after the Michelson-Morley experiment (1887) showed no
    evidence for it. No one banned it because of its phonetic similarity
    to "AUM".
    5. Self-Aggrandizement via Divine Association

    "Never fear, the Divine is with Arindam... all opposition is as dust
    beneath his feet."

    This is not science rCo itrCOs messianic. It presents Arindam not as a researcher or inventor, but as a divinely protected prophet of truth, persecuted by a corrupt establishment.

    Such framing is common in pseudoscientific cults, not in credible
    scientific discourse.
    6. Mockery, Not Argument

    "WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof"

    The closing line continues Arindam's pattern of substituting taunts and nonsense for reasoning. It signals disdain, not confidence.
    Summary:

    ArindamrCOs response to Paul:

    Fails to answer the original technical question.

    Dismisses the foundations of physics without offering replacements.

    Leans on conspiracy, cultural grievance, and divine favor.

    Avoids falsifiability, evidence, or reproducibility.

    Ends in mockery, not argument.

    Conclusion: This post is anti-scientific, conspiratorial, and
    rhetorically hollow. It doubles down on ideology to shield ArindamrCOs
    claims from scrutiny, rather than engage with criticism honestly.

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  • From Jim Pennino@jimp@gonzo.specsol.net to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics on Sun Jul 20 18:04:11 2025
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    In sci.physics Bertitaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
    People are thus so stupid, they think burning fuel near the ground
    causes global climate change. They are even more stupid, far more so,
    when they neglect jet engines exhausts spreading greenhouse gases high
    above.

    Bogus physics education is to blame what with all in power forced to
    chant the bogus e=mcc crap.

    WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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    ArindamrCOs post, in the voice of rCLBertietaylor,rCY is another polemical outburst. Here's a breakdown of its rhetorical content, logical structure,
    and scientific coherence:
    Tone and Rhetorical Strategy

    Tone: Derisive, conspiratorial, and absolutist.

    Rhetoric:

    Mockery of the public ("People are thus so stupid...")

    False dichotomy between ground-level fuel burning and jet exhaust.

    Appeal to rebellion via claims of "bogus physics education" and
    "forced" beliefs.

    Cartoonish dismissal of EinsteinrCOs equation ("bogus e=mcc crap").

    The rCLwoof-woofrCY motif continues the stylistic theme of absurdist
    detachment or satire, but functions rhetorically as a smokescreen.

    Logical Issues

    False dichotomy / Straw man:
    The claim that people are stupid for believing rCLburning fuel near
    the groundrCY affects climate ignores the complexity of greenhouse gas
    accumulation. ItrCOs not either-or; both ground and high-altitude
    emissions contribute to climate change. Scientists acknowledge that
    high-altitude emissions (e.g., from jets) have different radiative
    effects, but this doesn't negate the role of surface-level emissions
    like from cars or power plants.

    No evidence or argument:
    Assertions are made without data, examples, or even logical linkage.
    For example, he doesnrCOt explain why e=mc-# is rCLbogus,rCY nor does he
    offer an alternative framework.

    Conspiratorial framing:
    Phrases like "all in power forced to chant" suggest a shadowy
    consensus enforced by coercion. This is a rhetorical trope, not a
    logical argument.

    Scientific Coherence

    Jet exhausts:
    Arindam correctly points out that high-altitude emissions are
    important, especially due to their effects on contrail formation
    and radiative forcing. But this is well known in climate science
    and doesnrCOt contradict the mainstream viewrCoit complements it.

    Dismissing E=mc-#:
    The rejection of EinsteinrCOs mass-energy equivalence with no
    explanation suggests either a profound misunderstanding or a
    rejectionist attitude. E=mc-# is not a dogma; it is empirically
    validated and foundational to nuclear physics, particle physics,
    and astrophysics.

    Summary

    ArindamrCOs post is:

    Rhetorically provocative,

    Scientifically incoherent, and

    Logically ungrounded.

    It blends truths (e.g., jet exhausts matter) with nonsense (e.g.,
    dismissing mass-energy equivalence), and presents them with aggressive anti-intellectualism.

    Conclusion:
    This is not an argumentrCoit is a performance, aimed at undermining trust
    in scientific consensus while offering no viable alternatives.
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