So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or aircraft around.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)wrote:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
A permanent magnet has a fixed magnetic dipole moment m.
It would feel a net force F = grad( m B ) in an inhomogeneous
magnetic field B.
|Electromagnetic acceleration of permanent magnets 04078 (arxiv.org)
|by SN Dolya -+ 2015
from there:
|The force of the magnetic dipole interaction Fz with the gradient of the >|magnetic field can be written as follows:
|Fz = m*dBz/dz, (1)
|where m - the magnetic moment per mass unit, dBz /dz - the magnetic field >|gradient.
However, in nature there are no fields that can be used to accelerate
a spacecraft this way, so one would have to generate such fields.
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies
and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in
galaxies?
These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger
spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become noticeable.
But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are fairly strong
at the location of the ship and at the moment the ship is there.
Stefan Ram wrote:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in
galaxies?
These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger
spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become noticeable.
But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are fairly strong
at the location of the ship and at the moment the ship is there.
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
Stefan Ram wrote:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in
galaxies?
These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger
spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become noticeable.
But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are fairly strong
at the location of the ship and at the moment the ship is there.
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
Colin <colin@example.invalid>wrote:
I don't know, but it wouldn't be fuel-less: you'd still need energy tomove the magnet, wouldn't you?
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
What is that even supposed to mean?
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>wrote:
Ian wrote:
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn writes:
What is that even supposed to mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_moment#Force_on_a_moment
Ian wrote:
Stefan Ram wrote:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in
galaxies?
These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger
spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become noticeable.
But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are fairly strong
at the location of the ship and at the moment the ship is there.
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
What is that even supposed to mean?
On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 05:40:10 +0100, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn ><PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Ian wrote:It means that there is no perpetual motion, no free energy.
Stefan Ram wrote:What is that even supposed to mean?
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in >>>>>galaxies?These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger >>>>spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become noticeable. >>>>But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are fairly strong
at the location of the ship and at the moment the ship is there.
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or aircraft around.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and >galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can moveto give you a force in the direction you want to
go...
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Jan Panteltje wrote:
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can moveto give you a force in the direction you want to
go...
You can't control the direction of the force. In any case the magnitude
of the force would probably down there with the light pressure from
stars lightyears away.
In rectangular coordinates, the gradient of a vector field
f =( f_1, f_2, f_3 ) is defined by:
"nabla" f
= g^jk ("partial"f^i/"partial"x^j) e_i "tensor product" e_k,
So, when these derivatices ("partial"f^i/"partial"x^j) are
large, the gradient is large, meaning the field changes a lot,
which is need for a significant force on a magnetic dipole.
EYOc=(EYao-|,EYao-#,EYao-|)
recEYOc=grU#b|A(reefrU#/reex-#) eb|oreuereu
On 2026-02-02 12:49, John Hasler wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can moveto give you a force in the direction you want to
go...
You can't control the direction of the force. In any case the magnitude
of the force would probably down there with the light pressure from
stars lightyears away.
And a dipole couples to the field gradient, not the field, so the effect >would be vanishing**2ly small. (Or is that vanishing**3fly?)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 14:23:33 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2026-02-02 12:49, John Hasler wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can moveto give you a force in the direction you want to
go...
You can't control the direction of the force. In any case the magnitude >>> of the force would probably down there with the light pressure from
stars lightyears away.
And a dipole couples to the field gradient, not the field, so the effect
would be vanishing**2ly small. (Or is that vanishing**3fly?)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
One could use no fuel to drive from Boston to SF if you take only the downhill roads.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
[...] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Ian wrote:
Stefan Ram wrote:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in
galaxies?
These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger
spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become noticeable. >>>> But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are fairly strong
at the location of the ship and at the moment the ship is there.
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
What is that even supposed to mean?
It means that there is no perpetual motion, no free energy.
Ian wrote:
Stefan Ram wrote:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in
galaxies?
These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger
spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become
noticeable. But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are
fairly strong at the location of the ship and at the moment the
ship is there.
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
What is that even supposed to mean?
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
Ian wrote:
Stefan Ram wrote:
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote or quoted:
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in
galaxies?
These natural magnetic fields in galaxies and their gradients,
I think, are relatively weak. Over long timescales and over larger
spatial regions, their effects can accumulate and become
noticeable. But to drive a spacecraft, you'd need fields that are
fairly strong at the location of the ship and at the moment the
ship is there.
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.
What is that even supposed to mean?
A magnet has a north and a south pole.
In a uniform magnetic field,
there will be equal and opposite forces on these.
To obtain a net force, the magnetic field must be different at the N and S poles.
That is, the field must have a non-zero gradient. (Check dictionary, if necessary)
[unintelligible crap elided.]
Ian wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn writes:
You also need a large _gradient_ of magnetic field.What is that even supposed to mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_moment#Force_on_a_moment
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal.
We'll start orbiting the sun in the opposite direction.
Or maybe it will just make time go backwards. Who knows?
Ed
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
On 3/02/2026 3:50 am, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
It isn't. The magnetic fields around the sun are pretty erratic. Earth's rotation around the Sun isn't.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 3/02/2026 3:50 am, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet >>>>> that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go >>>>> could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and >>> galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
It isn't. The magnetic fields around the sun are pretty erratic. Earth's
rotation around the Sun isn't.
The earth is big and heavy and full of iron and stuff. It smooths out
the fuzz in the sun's magnetism and keeps a lid on the magnetic
typhoons. Otherwise the sun would be flipping its poles every day.
Nasa studies all this. Check their website.
They also said earth rotates around its axis, not the sun.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet.
It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and galaxies.
That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and
galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal.
We'll start orbiting the sun in the opposite direction.
Or maybe it will just make time go backwards. Who knows?
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 3/02/2026 3:50 am, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth [...] is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and
galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
It isn't. The magnetic fields around the sun are pretty erratic. Earth's
rotation around the Sun isn't.
The earth is big
and heavy
and full of iron and stuff.
It smooths out the fuzz in the sun's magnetism
and keeps a lid on the magnetic typhoons.
Otherwise the sun would be flipping its poles every day.
Nasa studies all this.
Check there website.
They also said earth rotates around its axis,
not the sun.
We'll start orbiting the sun in the opposite direction.
I hope this is just sarcasm,
ehsjr writes:
PointedEars writes:
We'll start orbiting the sun in the opposite direction.I hope this is just sarcasm, [...]
It obviously is.
ehsjr wrote in sci.electronics.design, sci.astro, sci.physics:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet >>>>> that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go >>>>> could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and >>> galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
Utter nonsense.
The earth is big and heavy and full of iron and stuff. It smooths out
the fuzz in the sun's magnetism and keeps a lid on the magnetic
typhoons.
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun
and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start
orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make
time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Did you know Joshua commanded the sun to stand still for 2 hours so he could finish his slaughter?
The Bible is a heavily redacted account of campfire and bedtime stories of ignorant tent-dwelling bronze-age nomads, NOT a textbook. To give you an idea how ignorant they were: they did not even know that Earth is a planet that is orbiting a star, and that the Sun is that star.
Not only did Joshua not made the Sun to stand still, because he could not; there is also no evidence to support the idea that he ever existed:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua#Current_mainstream_opinion>
He made all the virgin Amorite girls hold up their mirrors to reflect
the magnetic field the other way, [...]
Mirrors do not "reflect magnetic fields". They reflect _light_, which is (best described as) an electromagnetic wave: an oscillation of electric and magnetic fields that _stay in place_ while that happens.
so the earth stopped spinning while his men finished slaughtering the
rest of the Amorites. Then Josh's men ravished their new concubines.
They were the sluttiest virgins.
You are just trolling, right? Otherwise I suggest that you also attend a real school, not just Sunday school.
F'up2 sci.physics
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet
that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go
could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and >> > galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal.
We'll start orbiting the sun in the opposite direction.
Or maybe it will just make time go backwards. Who knows?
Ed
It can at least makes time stand still.
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
You need to stop being such a fuss budget.
I'll post what I want, where I want, the way I want, and youll like it.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun >>>>> and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start
orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make >>>> time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Already proven.
The missing 2 hours caused a singular discontinuity in the spacetime
fabric. Its all over your head.
Mirrors do not "reflect magnetic fields". They reflect _light_, which is
(best described as) an electromagnetic wave: an oscillation of electric and >> magnetic fields that _stay in place_ while that happens.
What a silly claim. Reflector telescopes have mirrors.
They can see magnetic storms on the sun.
You need some schooling.
Too bad you can't prove anything.
so the earth stopped spinning while his men finished slaughtering the
rest of the Amorites. Then Josh's men ravished their new concubines.
They were the sluttiest virgins.
You are just trolling, right? Otherwise I suggest that you also attend a
real school, not just Sunday school.
F'up2 sci.physics
Try again, maybe it will work.
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
You need to stop being such a fuss budget.
I'll post what I want, where I want, the way I want, and you'll like it.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun >>>>> and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start
orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make >>>> time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Already proven. >
The missing 2 hours caused a singular discontinuity in the spacetime
fabric. Its all over your head.
Did you know Joshua commanded the sun to stand still for 2 hours so he
could finish his slaughter?
The Bible is a heavily redacted account of campfire and bedtime stories of >> ignorant tent-dwelling bronze-age nomads, NOT a textbook. To give you an
idea how ignorant they were: they did not even know that Earth is a planet >> that is orbiting a star, and that the Sun is that star.
Not only did Joshua not made the Sun to stand still, because he could not; >> there is also no evidence to support the idea that he ever existed:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua#Current_mainstream_opinion>
He made all the virgin Amorite girls hold up their mirrors to reflect
the magnetic field the other way, [...]
Mirrors do not "reflect magnetic fields". They reflect _light_, which is
(best described as) an electromagnetic wave: an oscillation of electric and >> magnetic fields that _stay in place_ while that happens.
What a silly claim. Reflector telescopes have mirrors. They can see magnetic storms on the sun. You need some schooling.
Too bad you can't prove anything.
so the earth stopped spinning while his men finished slaughtering the
rest of the Amorites. Then Josh's men ravished their new concubines.
They were the sluttiest virgins.
You are just trolling, right? Otherwise I suggest that you also attend a
real school, not just Sunday school.
F'up2 sci.physics
Try again, maybe it will work.
Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
You need to stop being such a fuss budget.
I'll post what I want, where I want, the way I want, and youll like it.
No; after I submit this correction, I will simply killfile you to prevent
you from wasting my precious time further. May you die in ignorance.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun >>>>> and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start >>>> orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make >>>> time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Already proven.
The missing 2 hours caused a singular discontinuity in the spacetime fabric. Its all over your head.
You have not the slightest clue what you are babbling about.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect>
Mirrors do not "reflect magnetic fields". They reflect _light_, which is >> (best described as) an electromagnetic wave: an oscillation of electric and
magnetic fields that _stay in place_ while that happens.
What a silly claim. Reflector telescopes have mirrors.
That does not mean that they reflect *magnetic fields*.
You have no clue what a magnetic field *is*.
They can see magnetic storms on the sun.
No, they cannot. You do not know how telescopes work either.
You need some schooling.
I have studied Astrophysics at a *real-life* university (not Instagram University like you), stupid.
Too bad you can't prove anything.
Wrong. You can only read this because the technology that you are using was designed based on the assumption that the theory of Maxwell's
electrodynamics that I just sketched is fundamentally correct.
so the earth stopped spinning while his men finished slaughtering the
rest of the Amorites. Then Josh's men ravished their new concubines.
They were the sluttiest virgins.
You are just trolling, right? Otherwise I suggest that you also attend a >> real school, not just Sunday school.
F'up2 sci.physics
Try again, maybe it will work.
*PLONK*
F'up2 poster
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
You need to stop being such a fuss budget.
I'll post what I want, where I want, the way I want, and youll like it.
No; after I submit this correction, I will simply killfile you to prevent
you from wasting my precious time further. May you die in ignorance.
LOL!!! Your going to killfile me, but only after you finish this little apologetics tour on behalf of your make believe world.
Ok, we'll wait...
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun >>>>>>> and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start >>>>>> orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make >>>>>> time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Already proven.
The missing 2 hours caused a singular discontinuity in the spacetime
fabric. Its all over your head.
You have not the slightest clue what you are babbling about.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect>
Mirrors do not "reflect magnetic fields". They reflect _light_, which is >>>> (best described as) an electromagnetic wave: an oscillation of electric and
magnetic fields that _stay in place_ while that happens.
What a silly claim. Reflector telescopes have mirrors.
That does not mean that they reflect *magnetic fields*.
You have no clue what a magnetic field *is*.
They can see magnetic storms on the sun.
No, they cannot. You do not know how telescopes work either.
You silly twat. You think sunspots can't be seen with a reflector
telescope? Hahaha!
You need some schooling.
I have studied Astrophysics at a *real-life* university (not Instagram
University like you), stupid.
Too bad you can't prove anything.
Wrong. You can only read this because the technology that you are using was >> designed based on the assumption that the theory of Maxwell's
electrodynamics that I just sketched is fundamentally correct.
No its not.
so the earth stopped spinning while his men finished slaughtering the >>>>> rest of the Amorites. Then Josh's men ravished their new concubines. >>>>> They were the sluttiest virgins.
You are just trolling, right? Otherwise I suggest that you also attend a >>>> real school, not just Sunday school.
F'up2 sci.physics
Try again, maybe it will work.
*PLONK*
F'up2 poster
Stupid follow=up foiled again.
I win. Kegboy loses.
On 6/02/2026 11:24 am, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
You need to stop being such a fuss budget.
I'll post what I want, where I want, the way I want, and you'll like it.
You can post what you like. This is an unmoderated group.
We don't have to like it, and we can and will ignore you if you don't
have anything useful to say.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun >>>>>> and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start >>>>> orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make >>>>> time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Already proven. >
The missing 2 hours caused a singular discontinuity in the spacetime
fabric. Its all over your head.
And what's your evidence that this discontinuity exists (or ever
existed). The Old Testament is just a repeatedly copied ancient text.
The copying process isn't error free.
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On 6/02/2026 11:24 am, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
You need to stop being such a fuss budget.
I'll post what I want, where I want, the way I want, and you'll like it.
You can post what you like. This is an unmoderated group.
We don't have to like it, and we can and will ignore you if you don't have anything useful to say.
Full ACK.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun >>>>>> and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start >>>>> orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make
time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Already proven. >
The missing 2 hours caused a singular discontinuity in the spacetime
fabric. Its all over your head.
JFTR: I have studied Physics, including special and general relativity.
So this is a very ludicrous claim by yet another wannabe/crackpot on the Net.
Wait, Tom, JFTR. Didn't you say your plonking me? Plonk means you
don't read my posts or reply to them anymore. It doesn't mean you keep
up the conversation through 3rd hand replies.
Yeah, we know, you just had to play your "Im smarter than you" card.
Reading wikipedia doesn't mean you "studied Physics".
If thats so then
I studied just as much with a GED as you. You really need to study how
to stop being a horse's ass. And read usenet long enough to read some
real netiqette, cuz everything you think you know about that is wrong.
However, in nature there are no fields that can be used to accelerate
a spacecraft this way, so one would have to generate such fields.
What are the effects of magnetic field lines on star formation in galaxies?
ehsjr wrote in sci.electronics.design, sci.astro, sci.physics:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 1/02/2026 10:57 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I was watching some stuff of magnetic field lines in the universe
that I recoded last week from zdfinfo.de
https://www.zdf.de/dokus/geheimnisvolles-universum-100
It seems those are playing a much bigger role in the forming of galaxies and stars and the 'big bang' in the latest research.
So that makes me wonder if a spacecraft with just a permanent magnet >>>>> that you can move to give you a force in the direction you want to go >>>>> could be used as a simple fuel-less drive?
Electromagnets should work too of course.
Any aliens here that have used it?
Earth has a magnetic field, and nobody uses magnets to drag boats or
aircraft around.
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun and >>> galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
Utter nonsense.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun
and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start
orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make
time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
Did you know Joshua commanded the sun to stand still for 2 hours so he
could finish his slaughter?
He made all the virgin Amorite girls hold up their mirrors to reflect
the magnetic field the other way, [...]
so the earth stopped spinning while his men finished slaughtering the
rest of the Amorites. Then Josh's men ravished their new concubines.
They were the sluttiest virgins.
Bill Sloman wrote:
On 6/02/2026 11:24 am, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote:
Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Again, you need to specify an actual e-mail address there.
And stop this mindless crossposting without Followup-To, *please*.
You need to stop being such a fuss budget.
I'll post what I want, where I want, the way I want, and you'll like it.
You can post what you like. This is an unmoderated group.
We don't have to like it, and we can and will ignore you if you don't
have anything useful to say.
Full ACK.
ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> wrote:
On 2/2/2026 11:50 AM, Jeremiah Jones wrote:
Earth *is* a magnet. It is pushed by the magnetic fields of the sun >>>>>> and galaxies. That's what makes the earth go round the sun.
That's why they're worried about magnetic pole reversal. We'll start >>>>> orbiting the sun in the opposite direction. Or maybe it will just make >>>>> time go backwards. Who knows?
It can at least makes time stand still.
No, it cannot.
Already proven. >
The missing 2 hours caused a singular discontinuity in the spacetime
fabric. Its all over your head.
JFTR: I have studied Physics, including special and general relativity.
So this is a very ludicrous claim by yet another wannabe/crackpot on the Net.
More importantly, contrary to what you can read in most popular-scientific texts, spacetime is NOT a "fabric". It is a manifold (a special
And what's your evidence that this discontinuity exists (or ever
existed). The Old Testament is just a repeatedly copied ancient text.
The copying process isn't error free.
In addition to being propagated first by word-of-mouth (oral tradition) and
only much later told to scribes, and then copied by scribes from papyrus to parchment and vellum to paper, and translated from Hebrew to Aramaic to
Koine Greek to Old English etc.
This does not have much to do with any of the sciences for which the groups have been set up that this had been crossposted to.
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