• Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating

    From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics on Wed Jan 28 12:32:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 01/28/2026 11:10 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 28.01.2026 20:04, skrev Paul B. Andersen:

    Hint: d-#v/dt-# = 10 m/s-#

    Should be:
    Hint: dv/dt = 10 m/s-#



    I like the guy who one time put it:
    "I: am a measure-man".

    I think what he meant by that, was both
    that as an observer himself, he could only
    see what _was_ away, distant, yet at the
    same time, it's to include that his own
    objective view was included, "I am: a measure-man".

    That I thought was one of the most profound
    accounts of perspective and projection, and
    the discussion around it was pretty good.


    If you're familiar with the Vedic accounts of
    Atman and Brahman, one way to look at them is
    as of their being a technical sort of discussion
    about perspective and projection and the objective
    and subjective and the absolute and relative in
    the geometry and motion, of individuals. The
    interplay of the Vedics about the Atman and Brahman
    include that often what's considered is "trading places",
    that the key aspect of objectivity, is, inter-subjectivity.


    So, then about accounts of the gravitational equivalence
    principle, distance and length are not necessarily the
    same thing, and the far and near their norm and metric
    are not necessarily the same thing. The gravitational
    equivalence principle just like the energy equivalence
    principle is an _abstraction_ toward a _restriction_,
    generally enough about the "severe abstraction" of the
    "mechanical reduction" as one can read about, for example,
    quite more thoroughly in the "A Dictionary of The History
    of Science".

    (Here there's considered what must be a _realists's_ and
    thusly an _anti-reductionists's_ account, of theory
    overall not just instances of instants of heuristics
    of planks of platforms of partial accounts of physics.)


    So, that "galaxies don't fly apart because their entire
    frame is rotating", is just a totally usual sort of account
    since the most ancient recorded traditions on matters of
    observation and reflection, and then as well about the most
    scrutinized accounts or since Aristotle, "there is no un-moved
    mover" yet "circular movement is eternal".

    "I am a measure-man."





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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics.relativity,sci.math,sci.physics on Wed Jan 28 12:57:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.physics

    On 01/28/2026 12:32 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 01/28/2026 11:10 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 28.01.2026 20:04, skrev Paul B. Andersen:

    Hint: d-#v/dt-# = 10 m/s-#

    Should be:
    Hint: dv/dt = 10 m/s-#



    I like the guy who one time put it:
    "I: am a measure-man".

    I think what he meant by that, was both
    that as an observer himself, he could only
    see what _was_ away, distant, yet at the
    same time, it's to include that his own
    objective view was included, "I am: a measure-man".

    That I thought was one of the most profound
    accounts of perspective and projection, and
    the discussion around it was pretty good.


    If you're familiar with the Vedic accounts of
    Atman and Brahman, one way to look at them is
    as of their being a technical sort of discussion
    about perspective and projection and the objective
    and subjective and the absolute and relative in
    the geometry and motion, of individuals. The
    interplay of the Vedics about the Atman and Brahman
    include that often what's considered is "trading places",
    that the key aspect of objectivity, is, inter-subjectivity.


    So, then about accounts of the gravitational equivalence
    principle, distance and length are not necessarily the
    same thing, and the far and near their norm and metric
    are not necessarily the same thing. The gravitational
    equivalence principle just like the energy equivalence
    principle is an _abstraction_ toward a _restriction_,
    generally enough about the "severe abstraction" of the
    "mechanical reduction" as one can read about, for example,
    quite more thoroughly in the "A Dictionary of The History
    of Science".

    (Here there's considered what must be a _realists's_ and
    thusly an _anti-reductionists's_ account, of theory
    overall not just instances of instants of heuristics
    of planks of platforms of partial accounts of physics.)


    So, that "galaxies don't fly apart because their entire
    frame is rotating", is just a totally usual sort of account
    since the most ancient recorded traditions on matters of
    observation and reflection, and then as well about the most
    scrutinized accounts or since Aristotle, "there is no un-moved
    mover" yet "circular movement is eternal".

    "I am a measure-man."






    I have here a book called "Elements of Newtonian Mechanics:
    Including Nonlinear Dynamics", by Knudsen and Hjorth,
    might be useful.

    Chapter 7 is titled "The Problem of Motion", chapter 12
    "The Laws of Motion", the appendix "Vectors and Vector Calculus".

    About non-linear analysis the best survey I've seen is Nayfeh's.
    Bateman has one of the best surveys of integral and differential
    analysis, circa 1910. Maclaurin about infinitesimal analysis
    is pretty great, and for something like Courant.

    Zeno, though, everybody has to know Zeno first.




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