• Foam rubber that will sink in water.

    From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to sci.physics on Mon Dec 15 22:52:44 2025
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    K need something an inch, inch and a half, at most 2" thick which by its
    nature won't float or which will fill with water and not float, which I
    can sit on in the bathtub so that it not longer hurts to sit on thard
    surface.

    I'd also like to know if so-called AI is acting stupid again:

    When I google foam rubber that will sink
    so called AI says

    "Key Factors for Sinking Foam:

    Closed-Cell Structure: This means air pockets are sealed, making it
    less permeable to water and air than open-cell foam, but still
    compressible."

    Isn't this backwards? If the cells are closed, they remain filled with
    air, and the foam will float. Right?

    It also says "Dense Upholstery Foam: Look for ratings like "1.2 Density"
    or "33 lb Compression" (ILD), as these provide support and are less
    airy." Do these 2 things sound correct?

    If the foam becomes totally waterlogged, will the specific gravity still
    make it float, beucas it's maybe 98% water and 2% foam rubber and the
    foam rubber is lighter than water? or will it stay at whatever depth
    its place, stay on the bottom if it's placed there?

    Since I lost weight, 270 to 200 on a 5'8" frame, I've lost a lot more
    weight in my butt than I had originally gained there, so it's less
    resilient than any time in my life before, and it hurts to sit in the
    bathtub or on a hard chair, or even some padded chairs.

    I miss taking a long pleasant bath. I tried a piece of foam that they
    sell to sit on in football stadiums and it floats. I can trap it but it
    tends to escape, it's pretty inconvenient, and ii would be better if it
    were thicker.

    i found things for sale that are pre-weighted, but they are all 4.3 to 5
    inches high and meant for hottubs so that women won't get their hair
    wet. My bathtub is already too shallow, so I don't want to lose that
    even if I were not fat at all, I can't get my whole chest underwater.
    I don't want to lose 4+ inches even more depth.

    I need something an inch, inch and a half, at most 2" which by its
    nature won't float or which will fill with water and not float, but is
    softer than steel.

    Any ideas, products or materials, or suggestions?
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  • From John Hasler@john@sugarbit.com to sci.physics on Mon Dec 15 23:05:09 2025
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    You want open cell foam. Never rely on an LLM getting the facts right.

    Most rubber formulations are slightly denser than water. However open
    cell foam may retain sufficient air to reduce the average density to
    less than that of water. If that turns out to be a problem try
    attaching the foam to something such as a rubber anti-skid mat.

    Have you considered using a folded up towel?
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    John Hasler
    john@sugarbit.com
    Dancing Horse Hill
    Elmwood, WI USA
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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to sci.physics on Sun Dec 21 11:00:38 2025
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    In sci.physics, on Mon, 15 Dec 2025 23:05:09 -0600, John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

    You want open cell foam. Never rely on an LLM getting the facts right.

    Of course. So-called AI is worth no more than any random person's
    comment and we know how often they are wrong, but I wanted another
    opinion.

    Most rubber formulations are slightly denser than water. However open
    cell foam may retain sufficient air to reduce the average density to
    less than that of water. If that turns out to be a problem try
    attaching the foam to something such as a rubber anti-skid mat.

    Have you considered using a folded up towel?

    What a great idea! Not to take away from you and your truly great idea,
    I did think of that a couple days later, and I tried it. it workded
    fine. I took the towel out of the water before draining the tub, let it
    drain on the side of the tub for a a half-day, then threw it over the
    shower rod for another day. Took only a day and a half to dry and
    doesn't seem dirty at all.

    I've also put more towels on my desk chair, which doesn't get wet or
    have to be dried. If I'd known the problems of losing weigh, I might
    have been mmore successful in not gaining weight/
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