• Re: on ignoring the undecidable --- PLO

    From olcott@polcott333@gmail.com to sci.logic,comp.theory,sci.math on Mon Feb 9 11:42:05 2026
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    On 2/9/2026 10:43 AM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:
    On 09/02/2026 14:57, Mikko wrote:
    Logic is not paralyzed. Separating semantics from inference rules
    ensures that semantic problems don't affect the study of proofs
    and provability.

    Would you agree that inference rules are a formalisation of some semantics.

    a) in a sense
    b) yes, properly

    ?

    And then a syntactical system is one in which there remains no
    unformalised semantics (or, indeed, pragmatics), not even identification
    of thought objects.


    By the theory of simple types I mean the doctrine which says that the
    objects of thought (or, in another interpretation, the symbolic
    expressions) are divided into types, namely: individuals, properties of individuals, relations between individuals, properties of such
    relations, etc. (with a similar hierarchy for extensions), and that
    sentences of the form: " a has the property -a ", " b bears the relation
    R to c ", etc. are meaningless, if a, b, c, R, -a are not of types
    fitting together. Mixed types (such as classes containing individuals
    and classes as elements) and therefore also transfinite types (such as
    the class of all classes of finite types) are excluded. That the theory
    of simple types suffices for avoiding also the epistemological paradoxes
    is shown by a closer analysis of these. (Cf. Ramsey 1926 and Tarski
    1935, p. 399)."

    Semantics can be expressed entirely syntactically.
    The most formal way to say this is that when all
    expressions of language derive all of their semantic
    meaning from other expressions of language, then all
    knowledge that can be expressed in language is merely
    relations between finite strings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_type_theory#G%C3%B6del_1944
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