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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

Ruben Safir wrote:

One of the concepts that have bothered me the most is the idea that the universe is ever exapanding.

[_expanding_]

We do not know that. We know that our universe is expanding now and has

"We"???? you mean me, myself and I?


I'm flabgastted that people till this day are testing Positive for
Stupid in these sci newsgroups.

The UNIVERSE IS *NOT* EXPANDING! It *never* has expanded. It remains the
same size it always has been since it existence.


The Big Bang was the 'expansion' of ...space, not the expansion of the universe.


Space is expanding, not the universe.


Imagine an office building...
with a trillion feet of space for office space,
but contains only one office with 500 square feet.

You need to expand your office because your
busines is growing..so you tear the wall down and
add another 500 square feet of office..your're expanding!

The office building remains the same size.

You just got more space for your business...
eventually you take the whole floor and expand to another floor.

In other words, In the beginning, space was created to add heavens and
the earth.


In the beginning, ...

In the...

In

"In" is the operative word.


meaning inside, within, or at a specific place, time, state, or manner, indicating containment, location, duration, or a change of condition
(e.g., in the box, in summer, in love, in half).



https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+In


Your office space is contained IN a building.


The Big Bang was the 'expansion' of ...more office space.



What's inside the office space? People?


It's a big office building!


I mean...
BIG!

but plenty of ...space.


for a blue dot.



Next time someone sez the universe is expanding, give them a Stupid
cigar.

and to all the "WE" also.
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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From Newsgroup: sci.math

The Starmaker wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

Ruben Safir wrote:

One of the concepts that have bothered me the most is the idea that the
universe is ever exapanding.

[_expanding_]

We do not know that. We know that our universe is expanding now and has

"We"???? you mean me, myself and I?

I'm flabgastted that people till this day are testing Positive for
Stupid in these sci newsgroups.

The UNIVERSE IS *NOT* EXPANDING! It *never* has expanded. It remains the
same size it always has been since it existence.

The Big Bang was the 'expansion' of ...space, not the expansion of the universe.

Space is expanding, not the universe.

--------------------------------------------

Space is space, it dosen't expand.




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On 12/28/2025 09:47 AM, squalk wrote:

The Starmaker wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

Ruben Safir wrote:

One of the concepts that have bothered me the most is the idea that the >>>> universe is ever exapanding.

[_expanding_]

We do not know that. We know that our universe is expanding now and has

"We"???? you mean me, myself and I?


I'm flabgastted that people till this day are testing Positive for
Stupid in these sci newsgroups.

The UNIVERSE IS *NOT* EXPANDING! It *never* has expanded. It remains the
same size it always has been since it existence.


The Big Bang was the 'expansion' of ...space, not the expansion of the
universe.


Space is expanding, not the universe.

--------------------------------------------

Space is space, it dosen't expand.

The "space-frames" and "frame-spaces" represent the concepts
of objects or substances (eg, the point-particles the aggregates
or the waves the bulk) their locales, then that motion itself is
a sort of omni-present contraction and relaxation, of the relative
in the absolute.

If you believe science its data, and thusly, you know,
_all the data_, the universe's age grows millions and
millions of years every few years, about things like
"running constants" where also particles get smaller
every few years, between the sky survey and the CODATA.
Then about explaining why "Dark Energy" has for the
after the inflationary cosmology the expanding universe,
the terms have evolved from things like "tired light"
to "redshift distortion", about what true matters of
the optical must make for super-classical models of
the motion, as it may be, of light.


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squalk wrote:

The Starmaker wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

Ruben Safir wrote:

One of the concepts that have bothered me the most is the idea that the >>>> universe is ever exapanding.

[_expanding_]

We do not know that. We know that our universe is expanding now and has

"We"???? you mean me, myself and I?

Astrophysicist/cosmologists. The scientific community.

I'm flabgastted that people till this day are testing Positive for
Stupid in these sci newsgroups.

The UNIVERSE IS *NOT* EXPANDING! It *never* has expanded. It remains the
same size it always has been since it existence.

Observationally falsified.

The Big Bang was the 'expansion' of ...space, not the expansion of the
universe.

The Big Bang _is_ the expansion of the space of our universe. AFAWCS it is ongoing.

Space is expanding, not the universe.

Our universe is to good approximation well described by spacetime,
particularly the FLRW metric

ds^2 = -dt^2 + a(t)^2 [1/(1 - k r^2) dr^2 + r^2 (d Omega)^2],
(d Omega)^2 = (d theta)^2 + sin^2(theta) (d phi)^2,

where a(t) is the scale factor at the cosmological time t -- which is
currently increasing --, and r, theta and phi are spatial (spherical) coordinates. So our universe and space are inseparable concepts: When we
say "space" in cosmology, we mean the space *of our universe* (at least the observable one).

[Notice that this is different from colloquial use where "space" often
is a shorthand for "outer space", i. e. the space of our universe outside
Terra's atmosphere.]

Space is space, it dosen't expand.

Wrong, too. We can *observe* the expansion and evolution of our universe because we can observe galaxies as they were in the past: The light that
they emitted takes time to get to us. The farther an object is away, the earlier the light was emitted that reaches us now:

<https://youtu.be/Fqfap3v0xxw?t=791&si=ro2EG6Cx9Sqg05hr>
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From Newsgroup: sci.math

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

squalk wrote:

The Starmaker wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

Ruben Safir wrote:

One of the concepts that have bothered me the most is the idea that the >>>> universe is ever exapanding.

[_expanding_]

We do not know that. We know that our universe is expanding now and has >>

"We"???? you mean me, myself and I?

Astrophysicist/cosmologists. The scientific community.

I'm flabgastted that people till this day are testing Positive for
Stupid in these sci newsgroups.

The UNIVERSE IS *NOT* EXPANDING! It *never* has expanded. It remains the >> same size it always has been since it existence.

Observationally falsified.

The Big Bang was the 'expansion' of ...space, not the expansion of the
universe.

The Big Bang _is_ the expansion of the space of our universe. AFAWCS it is ongoing.

"the expansion of the space of our universe. "??? does that even mean anything??


Let me put it this way...

you only occupy 5% of the office building.


95% of space contains nothing, you occupy just 5%.


There is no universe..
it's just a few grains of sand.


In the beginning, ...

beginning means Time, ..spacetime

in the spacetime.

IN.

primarily indicating a state of being inside/within something (a place,
time, condition)


beginning


the point in time or space at which something starts.


IN time
IN space
IN spacetime.
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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