• Mayan Dresden Codex and eclipse prediction

    From Tilde@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.lang on Mon Oct 27 22:27:24 2025
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    https://phys.org/news/2025-10-mayans-accurately-solar-eclipses-centuries.html

    The Maya Civilization, from Central America,
    was one of the most advanced ancient
    civilizations, known for its significant
    achievements in astronomy and mathematics.
    This includes accurate calendars and detailed
    celestial records, but scientists don't fully
    understand all the details of their
    calculations. However, new research is
    shedding light on how they predicted future
    eclipses with remarkable accuracy.

    A study published in the journal Science
    Advances analyzes the Dresden Codex, the most
    famous surviving record of Mayan astronomy. In
    particular, researchers focused on the eclipse
    prediction table which spans 405 lunar months.
    Previous studies were unable to fully explain
    the table's underlying structure or the
    mechanism Mayans used to keep it updated for
    centuries. This paper fills in those missing
    details.

    The research overturns a long-held assumption
    that the table's 405-month length meant it was
    created solely for predicting eclipses. Instead,
    the paper's authors state that it was first
    designed as a lunar calendar to align with the
    Maya's 260-day astrological calendar.
    ...
    The researchers also solved the mystery of how
    the Mayans were able to be so accurate with
    their predictions. Previously, it was thought
    that once one table finished, they would start
    a new one. But the latest study shows that to
    maintain correct predictions for over 700 years,
    the Mayans used a system of overlapping tables.
    Instead of starting a new table, they would
    reset the next table to precise internals of
    223 or 358 months before the previous table
    ended to correct for small astronomical errors
    that accumulate over time.
    ...

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adt9039
    The design and reconstructible history of the
    Mayan eclipse table of the Dresden Codex



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  • From Aidan Kehoe@kehoea@parhasard.net to sci.lang on Mon Nov 3 06:12:17 2025
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    Ar an seacht|| l|i is fiche de m|! Deireadh F||mhair, scr|!obh Tilde:

    https://phys.org/news/2025-10-mayans-accurately-solar-eclipses-centuries.html

    [...] A study published in the journal Science Advances analyzes the Dresden Codex, the most famous surviving record of Mayan astronomy. In particular, researchers focused on the eclipse prediction table which spans 405 lunar months. Previous studies were unable to fully explain the table's underlying structure or the mechanism Mayans used to keep it updated for centuries. This paper fills in those missing details.

    The research overturns a long-held assumption that the table's 405-month length meant it was created solely for predicting eclipses. Instead, the paper's authors state that it was first designed as a lunar calendar to align with the Maya's 260-day astrological calendar.
    ...
    The researchers also solved the mystery of how the Mayans were able to be so accurate with their predictions. Previously, it was thought that once one table finished, they would start a new one. But the latest study shows that to maintain correct predictions for over 700 years, the Mayans used a system of overlapping tables. Instead of starting a new table, they would reset the next table to precise internals of 223 or 358 months before the previous table ended to correct for small astronomical errors that accumulate over time.

    Thanks Tilde. Despite the reassurance at the bottom of the page that the summary was written by a human, this is a bit confusing: rCLInstead of starting a
    new table they reset the next table [which means that they start a new table] ...rCY ?

    From-athe article, predicting the ellipses seems to have been a secondary function of their calendar, and they kludged things with these tables such that the periodicity of their ellipse prediction tablets overlapped and as a result were more accurate.

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adt9039
    The design and reconstructible history of the
    Mayan eclipse table of the Dresden Codex

    Not actually directly related to sci.lang, but glad to have it posted.
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  • From Tilde@invalide@invalid.invalid to sci.lang on Tue Nov 4 20:58:07 2025
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    Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    Ar an seacht|| l|i is fiche de m|! Deireadh F||mhair, scr|!obh Tilde:

    > https://phys.org/news/2025-10-mayans-accurately-solar-eclipses-centuries.html

    Thanks Tilde. Despite the reassurance at the bottom of the page that the summary was written by a human, this is a bit confusing: rCLInstead of starting a
    new table they reset the next table [which means that they start a new table] ...rCY ?

    Erm, I think that it reads better as

    "Instead of starting a new table, they would SET
    the next table to precise internals of 223 or 358
    months before the previous table ended"

    which makes sense when the tables overlap.

    From-athe article, predicting the ellipses seems to have been a secondary

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Codex
    "The codex contains information relating to
    astronomical and astrological tables, religious
    references, seasons of the earth, and illness
    and medicine. It also includes information about
    conjunctions of planets and moons."

    Wow, considering how wide ranging the codex is
    you could say everthing was secondary ;)

    function of their calendar, and they kludged things with these tables such that
    the periodicity of their ellipse prediction tablets overlapped and as a result
    were more accurate.

    "to correct for small astronomical errors that
    accumulate over time"

    > https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adt9039
    > The design and reconstructible history of the
    > Mayan eclipse table of the Dresden Codex

    Not actually directly related to sci.lang, but glad to have it posted.

    Mildly disagree. Translations of such texts is important
    to understanding other times and cultures as well as
    language development.

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