• Re: gosh

    From wmartin@wwm@wwmartin.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Feb 19 23:17:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 2/18/26 09:58, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital- >>>>>>>>>> sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters- >>>>>>>>>> gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all >>>>>>>>>> that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive and as >>>>>>>>> profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and >>>>>>>>> DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. >>>>>>>>>> It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the
    hardware
    work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the >>>>>>>>> employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a bigger >>>>>>>>> problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for
    reading
    improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of
    Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and high- >>>>>>>> dosage
    tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th >>>>>>>> in the
    nation for 4th-grade reading.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and race,
    Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now >>>>>>>> outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-
    grade
    reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading growth
    in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in >>>>>>>> recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including >>>>>>>> training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress.



    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    -a-a-a-a-a-a New Hampshire (94.2%)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Alaska
    -a-a-a-a-a-a District of Columbia
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    -a-a-a-a-a-a California (76.9%)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a New York (77.9%)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a New Mexico
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Louisiana
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation
    would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top
    level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.

    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English.
    You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and
    integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses
    of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and
    conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm the reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent. Donald Trump has the same problem. It's not a skill that American manufacturers want to see in their customers.

    I don't think the "denial campaign" has anything to do with not
    understanding the issue. Consider what happens to the "Petrodollar" if
    the world moves off of fossil fuels. That is what supports the American
    dollar as the world reserve currency. Without that the US standard of
    living is going to take a severe hit, which is political suicide for
    whoever is unlucky enough to be in charge when it happens. A lot of the
    world is hoping that happens...so I see it as just a delaying action.

    Get an oscilloscope. Design something. You'll feel better.

    I feel fine. I've got an oscilloscope - or at least hardware that plugs
    into my computer and can persuade it to put an oscilloscope-style trace
    on the display. What I lack is customers to give me problems to solve.

    That wouldn't make me feel any better about your inanities.


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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Feb 20 22:24:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 20/02/2026 6:17 pm, wmartin wrote:
    On 2/18/26 09:58, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital- >>>>>>>>>>> sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters- >>>>>>>>>>> gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all >>>>>>>>>>> that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive >>>>>>>>>> and as
    profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and >>>>>>>>>> DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. >>>>>>>>>>> It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the >>>>>>>>>> hardware
    work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the >>>>>>>>>> employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a >>>>>>>>>> bigger
    problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for >>>>>>>>> reading
    improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of
    Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and
    high- dosage
    tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th
    in the
    nation for 4th-grade reading.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and >>>>>>>>> race,
    Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now >>>>>>>>> outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-
    grade
    reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading >>>>>>>>> growth in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in >>>>>>>>> recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including >>>>>>>>> training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress.



    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    -a-a-a-a-a-a New Hampshire (94.2%)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Alaska
    -a-a-a-a-a-a District of Columbia
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    -a-a-a-a-a-a California (76.9%)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a New York (77.9%)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a New Mexico
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Louisiana
    -a-a-a-a-a-a Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation >>>>>> would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top >>>> level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks
    upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.

    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English.
    You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and
    integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses >>>> of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and
    conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm
    the reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent.
    Donald Trump has the same problem. It's not a skill that American
    manufacturers want to see in their customers.

    I don't think the "denial campaign" has anything to do with not understanding the issue. Consider what happens to the "Petrodollar" if
    the world moves off of fossil fuels. That is what supports the American dollar as the world reserve currency. Without that the US standard of
    living is going to take a severe hit, which is political suicide for
    whoever is unlucky enough to be in charge when it happens. A lot of the world is hoping that happens...so I see it as just a delaying action.

    That's all perfectly sensible. But being too dim to understand what is obviously going on - and John Larkin clearly falls into that category -
    is a weakness. One may blame the US education system for not working
    harder to train more students to detect deceitful propaganda, or blame
    the variation in the human genome which makes it difficult for some
    people to acquire that particular skill, but - either way - some people
    are more gullible than is good for them.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester@thanks-to@Taf.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Feb 20 15:30:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Persons wrote in news:sci.electronics.design - |------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks | |upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall | |short is equally unpopular. |
    |
    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.|
    |
    |Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English. |
    |You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can | |understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles." | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|

    Is it a myth that "Road Warrior" has subtitles in American English,
    where "Road Warrior" is the 1st version of "Mad Max 2: Road Warrior"
    in cinemas in the United States of America (where it had not been
    presented as a sequel to "Mad Max", which supposedly had not yet been
    released in the U.S.A.)?

    It is not a myth that I in the West did watch English subtitles on TV
    of a non-"Road-Warrior" video of a man speaking in Australian
    English. These subtitles are for all viewers (i.e. not just persons
    who cannot easily hear). They are not for a comedic effect.

    A teacher in the United States of America wrote to the SciFraud
    LISTSERV (Discussion of Fraud in Science): |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Dewey, | | I feel bad that I put you in a not-so-cheerful mood. Some explanation is | |necessary. | | | | >What are you trying to state, or imply, in this message? That you | |caved in to parental pressure, and GAVE a mediocre student an "A" grade?< | | | | I was threatened and intimidated by these people. Despite what I value as | |a strong sense of integrity, I was going to give the girl an A. I have a | |family to support. I mentioned that story to point out that I was prepared to| |fudge the grade for my own self-preservation and that the existence of | |conditions which would actually favor the parent in this situation, should | |not exist. It has become so common for parents to browbeat teachers, with the| |support of their local school boards, that most teachers wouldn't dare to | |challenge the system by setting standards which would make them stick out | |like a sore thumb. | | When I first started teaching, I heard a principal challenging a teacher | |because his students got almost all A's and B's in his classes. About ten | |years later, I heard a principal criticize a teacher for giving too many D's | |in a gifted and talented class. This was the consequence of parental | |pressure. Times had changed quickly. Two years ago, I asked the principal why| |a legal absence is given to a student who took four days extra vacation and | |didn't even have the required note prior to the absence. He responded by | |telling me the absence was legal because he said so. These things happen | |constantly. When students start their summer vacations two or three days | |before the end of the school year, we are specifically instructed to | |calculate the student's grade on the basis of the work possible as of the | |time of the student's departure. No extra work has to be submitted. | | So yes, as a matter of confession, and one of which I am not proud, I was | |afraid to give the student anything but an A when the parents threatened to | |have my job. For two years, our principal published grade stats by | |department, making sure to commend those with the highest grades for being | |the most successful teachers. He announced at a parent back-to-school meeting| |that the goal for the year was "success for all students at all times." I was| |probably the only teacher who really listened to this and I was extremely | |stressed out at the implications of how such a thing could be achieved. | | My story was not to support the notion of grade inflation. I was, in a | |self-effacing way, pointing out how I, as a teacher, have been a victim of | |the trend. Furthermore, I know that the principal has the authority to order | |me to change a grade or suffer disciplinary action for insubordination, | |ultimately ending with his authority to change the grade anyway. (BTW, this | |wasn't a high schooler, it was a sixth grader in Technology Education, | |formerly Industrial Arts.) What I didn't say is that the student's B was | |largely due to the fact that she had not completed a major project. After I | |got roasted and was clearing out the room after students had left for the | |summer, I found the part of the girl's project which had been missing. She | |had put it in the wrong place. One simple step now, and the project was | |finished. The missing part was an assembly which constituted most of the | |work. Fortunately, I didn't have to lie about her grade, but I am pretty sure| |I would have. | | | |>And that their current difficulties must be the fault of the | |university professor--because they KNOW that they are "A" students. Because | |their high school teachers said so.< | | | | The girl was an excellent student. She had always made straight A's. I | |know this doesn't mean as much as some would like it to. I also know that my | |subject can often be inconsistent with other grades, either to the student's | |advantage OR disadvantage. Most parents realize how different my subject is, | |especially for 6th graders, and usually accept that as an explanation for an | |unexpected grade. Some students are successful in school, not so much because| |of their raw intellectual ability, but more because of their ability to | |conform and anticipate. The methods and activities in my subject do not | |follow the format to which many of these children have become accustomed. | |Some weaker students benefit from this and some stronger students have | |trouble making the adaptation. She was one of the latter. | | | | All I can do is apologize for being tempted to lower the standards, but I | |do so in the context of a complaint that conditions demand it. That's why I | |want to get out of teaching." | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|

    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Feb 20 08:55:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 04:58:02 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive and as >>>>>>>>> profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has >>>>>>>>>> energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the hardware >>>>>>>>> work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a bigger >>>>>>>>> problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for reading >>>>>>>> improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of
    Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and high-dosage >>>>>>>> tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th in the >>>>>>>> nation for 4th-grade reading.
    Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and race, >>>>>>>> Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>> Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-grade >>>>>>>> reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading growth in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024.
    Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress.



    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    New Hampshire (94.2%)
    Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    Alaska
    District of Columbia
    Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    California (76.9%)
    New York (77.9%)
    New Mexico
    Louisiana
    Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation
    would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top
    level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks >upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.

    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English.
    You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and
    integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses
    of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and
    conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm the >reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent.

    We had a monstrous winter storm and a deadly avalanche near Truckee
    recently.

    This morning, the freeway near here (in Sunny California) was shut
    down from black ice. The US northeast has had unprecedented cold...
    ask Phil about that.

    Cold kills.


    Donald
    Trump has the same problem. It's not a skill that American manufacturers >want to see in their customers.

    TDS isn't healthy either.


    Get an oscilloscope. Design something. You'll feel better.

    I feel fine. I've got an oscilloscope - or at least hardware that plugs
    into my computer and can persuade it to put an oscilloscope-style trace
    on the display. What I lack is customers to give me problems to solve.

    There are easy ways around that, but you'd have to take lessons in
    being nice.


    That wouldn't make me feel any better about your inanities.

    Be nice. Give it a try.




    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From ehsjr@ehsjr@verizon.net to sci.electronics.design on Fri Feb 20 12:53:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 2/20/2026 11:55 AM, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 04:58:02 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive and as >>>>>>>>>> profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has >>>>>>>>>>> energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the hardware >>>>>>>>>> work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a bigger >>>>>>>>>> problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for reading >>>>>>>>> improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of
    Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and high-dosage
    tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th in the
    nation for 4th-grade reading.
    Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and race, >>>>>>>>> Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>>> Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-grade >>>>>>>>> reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading growth in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024.
    Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress.



    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    New Hampshire (94.2%)
    Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    Alaska
    District of Columbia
    Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    California (76.9%)
    New York (77.9%)
    New Mexico
    Louisiana
    Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation >>>>>> would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top >>>> level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks
    upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.

    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English.
    You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and
    integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses >>>> of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and
    conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm the
    reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent.

    We had a monstrous winter storm and a deadly avalanche near Truckee
    recently.

    This morning, the freeway near here (in Sunny California) was shut
    down from black ice. The US northeast has had unprecedented cold...
    ask Phil about that.


    Yes, it's been (brr) cold here. We had about 10 inches of that damn
    global warming fall on us 3 weeks ago, and another potentially
    significant snowstorm is predicted for NYC this weekend. (I'm roughly
    20 miles from both Phil and NYC)

    Ed

    Cold kills.


    Donald
    Trump has the same problem. It's not a skill that American manufacturers
    want to see in their customers.

    TDS isn't healthy either.


    Get an oscilloscope. Design something. You'll feel better.

    I feel fine. I've got an oscilloscope - or at least hardware that plugs
    into my computer and can persuade it to put an oscilloscope-style trace
    on the display. What I lack is customers to give me problems to solve.

    There are easy ways around that, but you'd have to take lessons in
    being nice.


    That wouldn't make me feel any better about your inanities.

    Be nice. Give it a try.




    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Feb 21 22:20:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 21/02/2026 3:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 04:58:02 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive and as >>>>>>>>>> profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has >>>>>>>>>>> energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the hardware >>>>>>>>>> work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a bigger >>>>>>>>>> problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for reading >>>>>>>>> improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of
    Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and high-dosage
    tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th in the
    nation for 4th-grade reading.
    Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and race, >>>>>>>>> Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>>> Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-grade >>>>>>>>> reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading growth in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024.
    Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress.



    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    New Hampshire (94.2%)
    Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    Alaska
    District of Columbia
    Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    California (76.9%)
    New York (77.9%)
    New Mexico
    Louisiana
    Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation >>>>>> would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top >>>> level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks
    upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.

    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English.
    You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and
    integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses >>>> of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and
    conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm the
    reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent.

    We had a monstrous winter storm and a deadly avalanche near Truckee
    recently.

    This morning, the freeway near here (in Sunny California) was shut
    down from black ice. The US northeast has had unprecedented cold...
    ask Phil about that.

    Cold kills.

    Anthropogneic global warming has already raised sea surfaces
    temperatures by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels.
    That 10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more
    energy to drive extreme weather events. The average temperature is up a
    bit, but the extremes are covering a wider span. Temperatures extremes
    at either end of the range do kill people
    Donald
    Trump has the same problem. It's not a skill that American manufacturers
    want to see in their customers.

    TDS isn't healthy either.

    Not a appreciating how much damage Donald Trump is doing is the real
    Trump derangement syndrome. You are suffering from a bad case of it.

    <snip>

    Be nice. Give it a try.

    I do it regularly, but I am selective about the people I'm nice to.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Feb 21 22:22:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 21/02/2026 3:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 04:58:02 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive and as >>>>>>>>>> profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has >>>>>>>>>>> energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the hardware >>>>>>>>>> work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a bigger >>>>>>>>>> problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for reading >>>>>>>>> improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of
    Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and high-dosage
    tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th in the
    nation for 4th-grade reading.
    Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and race, >>>>>>>>> Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>>> Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-grade >>>>>>>>> reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading growth in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024.
    Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress.



    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    New Hampshire (94.2%)
    Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    Alaska
    District of Columbia
    Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    California (76.9%)
    New York (77.9%)
    New Mexico
    Louisiana
    Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation >>>>>> would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top >>>> level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks
    upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.

    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English.
    You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and
    integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses >>>> of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and
    conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm the
    reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent.

    We had a monstrous winter storm and a deadly avalanche near Truckee
    recently.

    This morning, the freeway near here (in Sunny California) was shut
    down from black ice. The US northeast has had unprecedented cold...
    ask Phil about that.

    Cold kills.

    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures
    by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts
    10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy
    tinto extreme weather events. The average temperature is up a bit, but
    the extremes are covering a wider span. Temperatures extremes at either
    end of the range do kill people
    Donald
    Trump has the same problem. It's not a skill that American manufacturers
    want to see in their customers.

    TDS isn't healthy either.

    Not a appreciating how much damage Donald Trump is doing is the real
    Trump derangement syndrome. You are suffering from a bad case of it.

    <snip>

    Be nice. Give it a try.

    I do it regularly, but I am selective about the people I'm nice to.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Sat Feb 21 12:55:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures
    by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts
    10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy
    tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Feb 21 07:53:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 22:20:42 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 3:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 04:58:02 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive and as >>>>>>>>>>> profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the hardware >>>>>>>>>>> work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a bigger >>>>>>>>>>> problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for reading >>>>>>>>>> improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of >>>>>>>>>> Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and high-dosage
    tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th in the
    nation for 4th-grade reading.
    Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and race, >>>>>>>>>> Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>>>> Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-grade
    reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading growth in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024.
    Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress.



    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    New Hampshire (94.2%)
    Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    Alaska
    District of Columbia
    Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    California (76.9%)
    New York (77.9%)
    New Mexico
    Louisiana
    Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation >>>>>>> would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top >>>>> level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks
    upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language.

    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English.
    You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and
    integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses >>>>> of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and >>>>> conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm the >>> reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent.

    We had a monstrous winter storm and a deadly avalanche near Truckee
    recently.

    This morning, the freeway near here (in Sunny California) was shut
    down from black ice. The US northeast has had unprecedented cold...
    ask Phil about that.

    Cold kills.

    Anthropogneic global warming has already raised sea surfaces
    temperatures by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels.

    The pre-industrial baseline was the Little Ice Age. People ice skated
    and had winter faires on the Thames.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Feb 21 08:22:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.



    Apparently the few giant dram and flash makers are *not* ramping up
    capital investment and production to meet the AI demand, but raising
    prices and assuming that AI will mostly crash.

    That's sound business planning.

    I just bought a couple of laptops

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FXGPYT2C

    and was surprised at the price. They seem to be pretty good. One is
    for a student at Cal Poly who will help us with an FPGA design. We
    bought him a scope too.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGHTLRHS

    That's amazing, 4 channels at 250 MHz and a decent signal generator.

    It can't do 50 ohm inputs and comes with 2 probes, but that's easily
    fixed.






    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 14:43:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 22/02/2026 2:53 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 22:20:42 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 3:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 04:58:02 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:06:35 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 19/02/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:58:45 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/18/26 04:15, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 19:12:23 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 2/17/26 17:13, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 01:16:25 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 17/02/2026 6:59 am, john larkin wrote:

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why would they collapse? AI is unlikely to be as productive and as >>>>>>>>>>>> profitable as the investors seem to hope, but the drives and DRAM will
    probably still be useful.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    And poor education and support for the people who make the hardware
    work. Now that Trump is busy deporting the wet-backs that the employers
    used to imported to do the grunt work, this may get to be a bigger >>>>>>>>>>>> problem than it has been in the past.

    AI Overview
    Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have achieved a significant >>>>>>>>>>> "Southern Surge" in child literacy
    , defying historical trends to rank among the top states for reading
    improvement. Key strategies include implementing Science of >>>>>>>>>>> Reading-based instruction, intensive teacher training, and high-dosage
    tutoring. Despite high poverty levels, these states have shown >>>>>>>>>>> remarkable gains, particularly in 4th-grade reading.

    Mississippi

    Ranking: Once at the bottom, Mississippi now ranks 9th in the
    nation for 4th-grade reading.
    Demographic Adjustment: When adjusted for poverty and race,
    Mississippi ranks #1 in the nation for 4th-grade reading and math. >>>>>>>>>>> Performance: Black 4th graders in Mississippi now outperform the
    national average for their demographic.
    Approach: Mandatory teacher training in phonics, third-grade
    reading gates, and, and high-dosage tutoring.

    Louisiana

    Improvement: Louisiana showed the highest reading growth in the
    country, jumping from 50th place in 2019 to 16th by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>> Recovery: The state ranked #1 in the country in recovering from
    pandemic-related reading losses.
    Approach: Intensive literacy initiatives, including training for
    educators and strict accountability for reading progress. >>>>>>>>>>>


    And it's Fat Tuesday!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    The problem with comparative rankings is that we *still* don't know >>>>>>>>>> what proportion of the population is literate.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Google Ai says

    Top 5 States/Districts (Highest Literacy):

    New Hampshire (94.2%)
    Minnesota (94.2% in some reports, 278.8 score)
    Alaska
    District of Columbia
    Vermont

    Bottom 5 States (Lowest Literacy):

    California (76.9%)
    New York (77.9%)
    New Mexico
    Louisiana
    Mississippi

    putting California last.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I see. I have a hard time understanding why any first-world nation >>>>>>>> would have a literacy rate below 99%.

    Jeroen Belleman

    After a few years of communism, Cuba claimed 99%.

    I doubt if 99% literacy is even possible.

    I imagine that it depends on your definition of literacy.

    https://informationaccessgroup.com/literacy/

    Only about 1.2% of the Australian population achieves level 5 (the top >>>>>> level). 93.2% reach level 2 or better.

    I doubt if John Larkin would hit level 5.

    I scored 99 percentile on most school achievement tests, 720 out of
    800 on the verbal SATs. (800 on math.)

    American education isn't all that demanding. Giving the kids low marks >>>> upsets their parents. Being analytical about how far some kids fall
    short is equally unpopular.

    I didn't take any Australian tests. I don't even speak their language. >>>>
    Australian and American are mutually intelligible dialects of English. >>>> You do speak a language that pretty much all Australian's can
    understand. American shows on Australian TV don't need sub-titles.
    "At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and >>>>>> integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses >>>>>> of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate
    evidenced based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and >>>>>> conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks."

    His capacity to evaluate evidence-based arguments isn't great.


    Why do you make up lame insults even when you are obviously wrong?

    Your capacity to evaluate the evidence based arguments which confirm the >>>> reality of anthropogenic global warming is clearly non-existent.

    We had a monstrous winter storm and a deadly avalanche near Truckee
    recently.

    This morning, the freeway near here (in Sunny California) was shut
    down from black ice. The US northeast has had unprecedented cold...
    ask Phil about that.

    Cold kills.

    Anthropogneic global warming has already raised sea surfaces
    temperatures by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels.

    The pre-industrial baseline was the Little Ice Age. People ice skated
    and had winter faires on the Thames.

    The "Little Ice Age" seems to have been restricted to the areas around
    the North Atlantic. The north Atlantic multidecadal osciilation seems to
    have had something to do with it. Meandering ocean currents in other
    regions have produced similar effects at different times.

    Sea surface temperatures averaged over the whole world are more stable,
    but wandering ocean currents introduce some low frequency noise.

    The global monitor - going back about a million years - are isotope
    ratios in the Antarctic ice cores. The climate change denial propaganda
    you recycle here isn't aimed at sophisiticated readers.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 14:49:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures
    by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts
    10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy
    tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount
    of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long
    term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting
    ends up in the oceans
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 15:00:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 22/02/2026 2:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 12:55:40 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures >>> by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts
    10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy
    tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Presumably radiated back into space.

    Some of it is re-radiated back into space.

    But computer simulations are cheap and very cooperative.

    The sort of computer simulation that models the planet as a whole isn't
    cheap, and not in the least cooperative.

    IEEE Spectrum ran an article "cloud computing" a few years ago on the difficult to making climate simulations fine-grained enough to model
    cloud cover. Apparently the then current state of the art worked with
    tiles about 100 miles by 100 miles, and cloud cover was averaged over
    the entire tile. The ambition was to get down to cloud sized tiles, but
    that was someway off.
    --
    Bill Sloman Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 15:12:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    Apparently the few giant dram and flash makers are *not* ramping up
    capital investment and production to meet the AI demand, but raising
    prices and assuming that AI will mostly crash.

    That's sound business planning.

    That's wishful thinking. It always easier to do nothing and raise your
    prices. AI isn't wildly useful, but it does seem to work well enough
    that people with use it, if mainly to make plausible propaganda aimed at gullible twits like you. That's a mass market. People who do gear up to
    cater for it will make money - if almost certainly not as much as the
    stock market currently seems to think. The dot com bubble wasn't a
    bubble because international communications didn't take off, but because
    they didn't take off quite as fast as people had hoped.

    <snipped the boasting about some new toys>
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 12:51:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures >> by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts
    10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy
    tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount
    of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long
    term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting
    ends up in the oceans

    A wam ocean leads to more cloud cover which reflects more energy into
    space which reduces the overall energy input from the Sun. Sounds as
    though the system might be stable in the long term.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 02:11:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 22/02/2026 11:51 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures >>>> by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts
    10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy >>>> tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount
    of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long
    term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting
    ends up in the oceans

    A wam ocean leads to more cloud cover which reflects more energy into
    space which reduces the overall energy input from the Sun.

    It doesn't. Clouds form in rising air as it cools and dissipate when the
    same air hits the tropopause and starts falling and getting warmer.
    Cloud cover pretty much has to be stable at 50%.

    If you have a multilayer atmosphere it gets more complicated, but we don't.

    Sounds as though the system might be stable in the long term.

    It wasn't stable enough for the last couple of million years to stop us flipping between ices ages and interglacials, and there was an episode
    of natural methane release about 55.8 million years ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_thermal_maximum

    when global temperatures went up by between 5 and 8 degree Celcius
    for about 200,000 years. The methane turned into CO2 pretty rapidly, so
    it's a good model for out anthopogenic global warming.

    The initial rate of carbon injection back then was slower than what
    we've achieved recently - the initial temperature rise took about ten or twenty thousand years.

    The system wasn't stable back then, and it's a bit optimistic to think
    that it might be more stable now. People who make a lot of money out of digging up fossil carbon and selling it as fuel are naturally more
    optimistic, and want the rest of us to share their unrealistic optimism.
    --
    Bill Sloman Sydney
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 07:16:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 12:51:26 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures >> >> by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts
    10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy
    tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount
    of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long
    term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting
    ends up in the oceans

    A wam ocean leads to more cloud cover which reflects more energy into
    space which reduces the overall energy input from the Sun. Sounds as
    though the system might be stable in the long term.

    Pretty obviously we have negative feedbacks, otherwise we'd be Venus.

    The AGW industry has to invent and simulate positive-feedback tipping
    points. Their funding depends on it.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 07:31:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:12:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    Apparently the few giant dram and flash makers are *not* ramping up
    capital investment and production to meet the AI demand, but raising
    prices and assuming that AI will mostly crash.

    That's sound business planning.

    That's wishful thinking. It always easier to do nothing and raise your >prices. AI isn't wildly useful, but it does seem to work well enough
    that people with use it, if mainly to make plausible propaganda aimed at >gullible twits like you. That's a mass market. People who do gear up to >cater for it will make money - if almost certainly not as much as the
    stock market currently seems to think. The dot com bubble wasn't a
    bubble because international communications didn't take off, but because >they didn't take off quite as fast as people had hoped.

    The dot.com bubble was driven by absurd amounts of money invested in
    way too many idiotic ideas. Read

    Ebrands by Carpenter

    dot.con by Cassidy

    great fun.

    There's a part of San Francisco that used to be quiet, a mix of old
    brick factories and Victorian houses. It's called The Arena now, rents
    are crazy, and parking is impossible. All because of AI.

    My wife has her speech therapy office in a big building with a lot of
    small units. It used to have a lot of hair stylists and tattoo salons
    and artists and units available to rent, with lots of space in the
    parking garage. Now it's jammed with AI geeks and here's no parking
    available. This has got to crash.

    If AI is so good, why would any AI company need more than four
    employees?


    <snipped the boasting about some new toys>

    I'm not boasting. Anybody could buy these things, even you.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 07:46:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:12:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/02/16/western-digital-sells-out-entire-2026-hard-drive-inventory-as-ai-datacenters-gobble-up-supply/

    And when most of the gigantic AI data centers collapse, all that dram
    and all those drives will be dumped on ebay or whatever.

    Louisiana is looking to be the place to build the AI things. It has
    energy, land, water, and low taxes.

    Apparently the few giant dram and flash makers are *not* ramping up
    capital investment and production to meet the AI demand, but raising
    prices and assuming that AI will mostly crash.

    That's sound business planning.

    That's wishful thinking. It always easier to do nothing and raise your >prices. AI isn't wildly useful, but it does seem to work well enough
    that people with use it, if mainly to make plausible propaganda aimed at >gullible twits like you. That's a mass market. People who do gear up to >cater for it will make money - if almost certainly not as much as the
    stock market currently seems to think. The dot com bubble wasn't a
    bubble because international communications didn't take off, but because >they didn't take off quite as fast as people had hoped.

    <snipped the boasting about some new toys>

    AI isn't all bad.

    Amelia is great.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WK4xTvgHGw

    Too bad she doesn't actually exist. I'd buy her a beer. Or a pint,
    whatever.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From antispam@antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 02:27:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 12:51:26 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures >>> >> by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts >>> >> 10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy >>> >> tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount
    of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long
    term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting
    ends up in the oceans

    A wam ocean leads to more cloud cover which reflects more energy into
    space which reduces the overall energy input from the Sun. Sounds as >>though the system might be stable in the long term.

    Pretty obviously we have negative feedbacks, otherwise we'd be Venus.

    Of course thare are negaive feedbacks. First, as temperature grows
    Earth emits more heat radiation. This grows with fourth power of
    temperature, so it is pretty strong effect.

    But you ignore simple thing: system with negative feedback and
    delay will oscilate. And there are a lot of delays in the
    system. There is also a lot of nonlinearties. When you
    gradually turn on power to an oscilator it will probably
    not surprise you that with growth of supplay voltage
    you get bigger amplitude of oscilations on the output.
    Depending of details it would not surprise me seeing
    negative peaks going lower with bigger voltage. Yet, when
    you see oscilations in natural system you act as you
    never saw an oscilator.

    Concerning limits, I do not think Venus-like scenario is
    possible for Earth. But having Carbon again wound be very
    hard for people. Tropical areas probably would be
    inihibitable by humans in such a case. There would be
    disastrous impact on agriculture: plants that we know
    how to handle and which we selected over thousends of
    years would be badly adapted. Antarctica would melt
    signifcantly reducing habitable land. More energy in
    atmosphere means strongee winds, torndoes, flooding etc.
    Our current architecture is build on certain assumptions
    about climate, with changed climate many current buildings
    will be destroyed and we will need new ones.

    It is not clear to me if attemps to stabilize temperature at
    level as it was 100 years ago is wise. Namely there are
    natural variations and fighting natural change may take
    too much effort. But our current impact is larger than
    natural variations on similar time scale and without global
    climate control policy will grow.

    Of course, so people want to be "free riders", that is collect
    benefits but let the other do the work. This seem to be current
    US policy. And of course much of business works on principle
    "get money now", leaving troubles to government and future
    generations. Of course, there is hipocrisy too: European
    governments are much less eager to adapt electric cars now,
    when it turned out that Chinese ones are better than European
    ones.

    But believing that nothing serious is happening to climate
    is just ignores solid data (which a lot of politicians like
    to do).
    --
    Waldek Hebisch
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sun Feb 22 19:18:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 02:27:49 -0000 (UTC), antispam@fricas.org (Waldek
    Hebisch) wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 12:51:26 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures
    by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts >>>> >> 10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy >>>> >> tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount >>>> of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long
    term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting
    ends up in the oceans

    A wam ocean leads to more cloud cover which reflects more energy into >>>space which reduces the overall energy input from the Sun. Sounds as >>>though the system might be stable in the long term.

    Pretty obviously we have negative feedbacks, otherwise we'd be Venus.

    Of course thare are negaive feedbacks. First, as temperature grows
    Earth emits more heat radiation. This grows with fourth power of >temperature, so it is pretty strong effect.

    But you ignore simple thing: system with negative feedback and
    delay will oscilate.

    I design stable high-order negative feedback systems. Mine don't
    oscillate.


    And there are a lot of delays in the
    system. There is also a lot of nonlinearties. When you
    gradually turn on power to an oscilator it will probably
    not surprise you that with growth of supplay voltage
    you get bigger amplitude of oscilations on the output.
    Depending of details it would not surprise me seeing
    negative peaks going lower with bigger voltage. Yet, when
    you see oscilations in natural system you act as you
    never saw an oscilator.

    Concerning limits, I do not think Venus-like scenario is
    possible for Earth. But having Carbon again wound be very
    hard for people. Tropical areas probably would be
    inihibitable by humans in such a case. There would be
    disastrous impact on agriculture: plants that we know
    how to handle and which we selected over thousends of
    years would be badly adapted. Antarctica would melt
    signifcantly reducing habitable land. More energy in
    atmosphere means strongee winds, torndoes, flooding etc.
    Our current architecture is build on certain assumptions
    about climate, with changed climate many current buildings
    will be destroyed and we will need new ones.


    Plants love CO2. Veggies are grown in hothouses at 1000 PPM of CO2.

    In past times, when life flourished on earth, CO2 was 5000 PPM.

    Plants are near starving now. I'm thinking that something like 700 PPM
    would be good.


    It is not clear to me if attemps to stabilize temperature at
    level as it was 100 years ago is wise. Namely there are
    natural variations and fighting natural change may take
    too much effort. But our current impact is larger than
    natural variations on similar time scale and without global
    climate control policy will grow.

    Comparing temps to "pre-industrial times" clearly has instrumentation
    hazards. We are taking millions of times more measurements than we did
    in 1800.



    Of course, so people want to be "free riders", that is collect
    benefits but let the other do the work. This seem to be current
    US policy. And of course much of business works on principle
    "get money now", leaving troubles to government and future
    generations. Of course, there is hipocrisy too: European
    governments are much less eager to adapt electric cars now,
    when it turned out that Chinese ones are better than European
    ones.

    But believing that nothing serious is happening to climate
    is just ignores solid data (which a lot of politicians like
    to do).

    We're lucky to be living in an interglacial. What will be serious is
    the next ice age.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 16:13:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 23/02/2026 2:16 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 12:51:26 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures >>>>> by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts >>>>> 10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy >>>>> tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount
    of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long
    term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting
    ends up in the oceans

    A wam ocean leads to more cloud cover which reflects more energy into
    space which reduces the overall energy input from the Sun. Sounds as
    though the system might be stable in the long term.

    Pretty obviously we have negative feedbacks, otherwise we'd be Venus.

    The AGW industry has to invent and simulate positive-feedback tipping
    points. Their funding depends on it.

    They don't have to invent anything. The existence of ice ages and interglacials shows that that there are positive feedbacks in play.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_thermal_maximum

    reports a rather earlier event - some 55.8 million s years ago - where
    what seems to have been a fairly rapid dump of a lot of methane into the atmosphere over some ten to twenty thousand years produced some 200,000
    years of global warming.

    You've been told about this before, but don't seem to be able to
    understand the message. The fossil carbon extraction industry has
    mastered the art of spoon-feeding you their misinformation in a way that leaves you feeling good about your intellectual limitations.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 16:31:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 23/02/2026 2:18 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 02:27:49 -0000 (UTC), antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 12:51:26 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On 21/02/2026 11:55 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


    Anthropogenic global warming has already raised sea surface temperatures
    by more than one degree Celcius over pre-industrial levels. That puts >>>>>>> 10% more water vapour in the air above the oceans, and 10% more energy >>>>>>> tinto extreme weather events.

    Where would that energy have gone otherwise?

    Obviously into warming the oceans even more. This decreases the amount >>>>> of CO2 they can take up, but since CO2 levels in the atmosphere are
    going up a lot faster than the oceans are warming up, this is a long >>>>> term problem. At the moment about half the extra CO2 we are emitting >>>>> ends up in the oceans

    A wam ocean leads to more cloud cover which reflects more energy into
    space which reduces the overall energy input from the Sun. Sounds as
    though the system might be stable in the long term.

    Pretty obviously we have negative feedbacks, otherwise we'd be Venus.

    Of course thare are negaive feedbacks. First, as temperature grows
    Earth emits more heat radiation. This grows with fourth power of
    temperature, so it is pretty strong effect.

    But you ignore simple thing: system with negative feedback and
    delay will oscilate.

    I design stable high-order negative feedback systems. Mine don't
    oscillate.

    > And there are a lot of delays in the
    system. There is also a lot of nonlinearties. When you
    gradually turn on power to an oscilator it will probably
    not surprise you that with growth of supplay voltage
    you get bigger amplitude of oscilations on the output.
    Depending of details it would not surprise me seeing
    negative peaks going lower with bigger voltage. Yet, when
    you see oscilations in natural system you act as you
    never saw an oscilator.

    Concerning limits, I do not think Venus-like scenario is
    possible for Earth. But having Carbon again wound be very
    hard for people. Tropical areas probably would be
    inihibitable by humans in such a case. There would be
    disastrous impact on agriculture: plants that we know
    how to handle and which we selected over thousends of
    years would be badly adapted. Antarctica would melt
    signifcantly reducing habitable land. More energy in
    atmosphere means strongee winds, torndoes, flooding etc.
    Our current architecture is build on certain assumptions
    about climate, with changed climate many current buildings
    will be destroyed and we will need new ones.


    Plants love CO2. Veggies are grown in hothouses at 1000 PPM of CO2.

    In hot houses the plants are watered and fertilised. In the wild plants respond to more CO2 by reducing the number of stomata in their leaves so
    they can get the amount of CO2 they need while losing less water.

    In past times, when life flourished on earth, CO2 was 5000 PPM.
    Very intermittently.

    Plants are near starving now.

    Populations expand until the run into their natural limits. In fact
    plant populations expand until the competition for the resources they
    require means that they can barely find enough resources to keep
    growing. Add more CO2 to the atmosphere and a shortage of some other
    resource will limit their population.

    I'm thinking that something like 700 PPM
    would be good.

    What you fondly imagine to be "thinking" is merely retrieving climate
    change denial propaganda.

    It is not clear to me if attemps to stabilize temperature at
    level as it was 100 years ago is wise. Namely there are
    natural variations and fighting natural change may take
    too much effort. But our current impact is larger than
    natural variations on similar time scale and without global
    climate control policy will grow.

    Comparing temps to "pre-industrial times" clearly has instrumentation hazards. We are taking millions of times more measurements than we did
    in 1800.

    A single measurement can be enough, if it measures the right thing.
    A lot of our knowledge of pre-industrial temperatures comes from
    measuring isotope ratios in geological samples. The antarctic ice ice
    cores samples aren't usually seen as geological samples, but they
    probably should be.

    Of course, so people want to be "free riders", that is collect
    benefits but let the other do the work. This seem to be current
    US policy. And of course much of business works on principle
    "get money now", leaving troubles to government and future
    generations. Of course, there is hipocrisy too: European
    governments are much less eager to adapt electric cars now,
    when it turned out that Chinese ones are better than European
    ones.

    But believing that nothing serious is happening to climate
    is just ignores solid data (which a lot of politicians like
    to do).

    We're lucky to be living in an interglacial. What will be serious is
    the next ice age.

    Except that we now know how to stop the interglacial to ice age
    transition - if we've got enough fossil carbon left to dig up and burn.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 16:52:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 23/02/2026 2:31 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:12:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    <snip>

    There's a part of San Francisco that used to be quiet, a mix of old
    brick factories and Victorian houses. It's called The Arena now, rents
    are crazy, and parking is impossible. All because of AI.

    My wife has her speech therapy office in a big building with a lot of
    small units. It used to have a lot of hair stylists and tattoo salons
    and artists and units available to rent, with lots of space in the
    parking garage. Now it's jammed with AI geeks and here's no parking available. This has got to crash.

    There's no obligation. Any good idea attracts people who think they can exploit it, and most of them are wrong, and that does tend to produce a
    crash when the incompetent hangers-on go bankrupt.

    If AI is so good, why would any AI company need more than four
    employees?

    You've got to be able to express your ideas clearly enough for the AI to
    take away a self-consistent set of targets. The kind of AI that can make
    sense of idiot ambitions doesn't seem to exist yet, and if the silly
    questions that get aired here are a representative sample of the crap
    they might need to deal with, they probably never will.

    One of my friends grand-daughters works for Microsoft in Australia on exploiting artificial intelligence, and it good enough at it that
    Microsoft are moving her work at their headquarters at Redmond WA.

    Artificial intelligence is a resource that human intelligence can
    exploit. It's not obvious that it could exploit itself.

    <snipped the boasting about some new toys>

    I'm not boasting. Anybody could buy these things, even you.

    I certainly could, if the need arose. So why did you waste bandwidth
    boasting about them?
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 10:22:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Waldek Hebisch <antispam@fricas.org> wrote:

    [Higher sea temp -> cloud -> albido -> input energy reflection -> lower
    sea temp]

    [...]
    But you ignore simple thing: system with negative feedback and
    delay will oscilate.

    The oscillation may increase to some limit or it could be
    critically-damped or so heavily damped as to be insignificant.

    And there are a lot of delays in the
    system. There is also a lot of nonlinearties.

    There is little sign of oscillation and the chain of events above has
    only one slow effect, which is the change of sea temperature itself; all
    the other effects are comparatively rapid. When you have a negative
    feedback loop with one very dominant pole, it is stable as long as none
    of the other parameters is so non-linear as to make the feedback
    positive at some point.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 10:27:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    [...]
    Any good idea attracts people who think they can
    exploit it, and most of them are wrong, and that does tend to produce a
    crash when the incompetent hangers-on go bankrupt.

    It isn't always the incompetent hangers-on who go bankrupt, some of them undeservedly survive while the competent are undermined and crash.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 23:08:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 23/02/2026 9:27 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    [...]
    Any good idea attracts people who think they can
    exploit it, and most of them are wrong, and that does tend to produce a
    crash when the incompetent hangers-on go bankrupt.

    It isn't always the incompetent hangers-on who go bankrupt, some of them undeservedly survive while the competent are undermined and crash.

    Who cares. There are always quite a lot of people who don't make it, and
    while the stories behind each individual failure can be quite diverse,
    it doesn't change the big picture.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Mon Feb 23 09:59:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 16:52:17 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 23/02/2026 2:31 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:12:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    <snip>

    There's a part of San Francisco that used to be quiet, a mix of old
    brick factories and Victorian houses. It's called The Arena now, rents
    are crazy, and parking is impossible. All because of AI.

    My wife has her speech therapy office in a big building with a lot of
    small units. It used to have a lot of hair stylists and tattoo salons
    and artists and units available to rent, with lots of space in the
    parking garage. Now it's jammed with AI geeks and here's no parking
    available. This has got to crash.

    There's no obligation. Any good idea attracts people who think they can >exploit it, and most of them are wrong, and that does tend to produce a >crash when the incompetent hangers-on go bankrupt.

    If AI is so good, why would any AI company need more than four
    employees?

    You've got to be able to express your ideas clearly enough for the AI to >take away a self-consistent set of targets. The kind of AI that can make >sense of idiot ambitions doesn't seem to exist yet, and if the silly >questions that get aired here are a representative sample of the crap
    they might need to deal with, they probably never will.

    One of my friends grand-daughters works for Microsoft in Australia on >exploiting artificial intelligence, and it good enough at it that
    Microsoft are moving her work at their headquarters at Redmond WA.

    Artificial intelligence is a resource that human intelligence can
    exploit. It's not obvious that it could exploit itself.

    <snipped the boasting about some new toys>

    I'm not boasting. Anybody could buy these things, even you.

    I certainly could, if the need arose. So why did you waste bandwidth >boasting about them?

    Not boasting, but recommending gear to people here who might do actual
    hands-on electronics. I asked about VNAs and cable manufacturers here
    recently. It's better to be helpful than nasty.

    $1000 and some imagination could start a nice little business.

    I might teach a class at a local college. Every student would get some
    parts and some solder and a DVM.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Tue Feb 24 17:39:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 24/02/2026 4:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 16:52:17 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 23/02/2026 2:31 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:12:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>> wrote:

    <snip>

    There's a part of San Francisco that used to be quiet, a mix of old
    brick factories and Victorian houses. It's called The Arena now, rents
    are crazy, and parking is impossible. All because of AI.

    My wife has her speech therapy office in a big building with a lot of
    small units. It used to have a lot of hair stylists and tattoo salons
    and artists and units available to rent, with lots of space in the
    parking garage. Now it's jammed with AI geeks and here's no parking
    available. This has got to crash.

    There's no obligation. Any good idea attracts people who think they can
    exploit it, and most of them are wrong, and that does tend to produce a
    crash when the incompetent hangers-on go bankrupt.

    If AI is so good, why would any AI company need more than four
    employees?

    You've got to be able to express your ideas clearly enough for the AI to
    take away a self-consistent set of targets. The kind of AI that can make
    sense of idiot ambitions doesn't seem to exist yet, and if the silly
    questions that get aired here are a representative sample of the crap
    they might need to deal with, they probably never will.

    One of my friends grand-daughters works for Microsoft in Australia on
    exploiting artificial intelligence, and it good enough at it that
    Microsoft are moving her work at their headquarters at Redmond WA.

    Artificial intelligence is a resource that human intelligence can
    exploit. It's not obvious that it could exploit itself.

    <snipped the boasting about some new toys>

    I'm not boasting. Anybody could buy these things, even you.

    I certainly could, if the need arose. So why did you waste bandwidth
    boasting about them?

    Not boasting, but recommending gear to people here who might do actual hands-on electronics. I asked about VNAs and cable manufacturers here recently. It's better to be helpful than nasty.

    $1000 and some imagination could start a nice little business.

    You also need customers.

    I might teach a class at a local college. Every student would get some
    parts and some solder and a DVM.

    And a collection of horrible examples how to do electronic design ineptly.

    Your lack pf enthusiasm for hiring people who have got Ph.D.s tells the
    story.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Tue Feb 24 08:16:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 17:39:48 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 24/02/2026 4:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 16:52:17 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 23/02/2026 2:31 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:12:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    <snip>

    There's a part of San Francisco that used to be quiet, a mix of old
    brick factories and Victorian houses. It's called The Arena now, rents >>>> are crazy, and parking is impossible. All because of AI.

    My wife has her speech therapy office in a big building with a lot of
    small units. It used to have a lot of hair stylists and tattoo salons
    and artists and units available to rent, with lots of space in the
    parking garage. Now it's jammed with AI geeks and here's no parking
    available. This has got to crash.

    There's no obligation. Any good idea attracts people who think they can
    exploit it, and most of them are wrong, and that does tend to produce a
    crash when the incompetent hangers-on go bankrupt.

    If AI is so good, why would any AI company need more than four
    employees?

    You've got to be able to express your ideas clearly enough for the AI to >>> take away a self-consistent set of targets. The kind of AI that can make >>> sense of idiot ambitions doesn't seem to exist yet, and if the silly
    questions that get aired here are a representative sample of the crap
    they might need to deal with, they probably never will.

    One of my friends grand-daughters works for Microsoft in Australia on
    exploiting artificial intelligence, and it good enough at it that
    Microsoft are moving her work at their headquarters at Redmond WA.

    Artificial intelligence is a resource that human intelligence can
    exploit. It's not obvious that it could exploit itself.

    <snipped the boasting about some new toys>

    I'm not boasting. Anybody could buy these things, even you.

    I certainly could, if the need arose. So why did you waste bandwidth
    boasting about them?

    Not boasting, but recommending gear to people here who might do actual
    hands-on electronics. I asked about VNAs and cable manufacturers here
    recently. It's better to be helpful than nasty.

    $1000 and some imagination could start a nice little business.

    You also need customers.

    That's part of having "some imagination."


    I might teach a class at a local college. Every student would get some
    parts and some solder and a DVM.

    And a collection of horrible examples how to do electronic design ineptly.

    I have a single circuit in mind. Someting that will give the kids some instincts. Well, some of the kids.

    Giving away DVMs would be useful to all of the kids.


    Your lack pf enthusiasm for hiring people who have got Ph.D.s tells the >story.

    I'm just an engineer. I do what works.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Wed Feb 25 04:12:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 25/02/2026 3:16 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 17:39:48 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 24/02/2026 4:59 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 16:52:17 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 23/02/2026 2:31 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 15:12:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:

    On 22/02/2026 3:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 11:59:04 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>> wrote:


    <snip>

    $1000 and some imagination could start a nice little business.

    You also need customers.

    That's part of having "some imagination."

    Imaginary customers aren't a reliable source of real income.The kind of business plan that invests money in attracting the interest of real
    customers gets expensive fast. One of colleagues made money out of
    designing stuff for members of his golf club. My hockey club members
    weren't into that.

    I might teach a class at a local college. Every student would get some
    parts and some solder and a DVM.

    And a collection of horrible examples of how to do electronic design ineptly.

    I have a single circuit in mind. Something that will give the kids some instincts. Well, some of the kids.

    Giving away DVMs would be useful to all of the kids.

    A DVM is useless without something to measure. That single circuit needs
    a power supply to produce voltages for the kids to measure. If they
    learn anything, they'll want different components to solder into at
    least slightly different circuits.

    Your lack pf enthusiasm for hiring people who have got Ph.D.s tells the
    story.

    I'm just an engineer. I do what works.

    You do what you think will work. The stuff that you don't seem to be
    equipped to think up might work better. Exposure to people who might
    think up better circuits isn't something that you seem to be all that enthusiastic about. Perhaps you think that they don't exist.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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