• GaNFETs in Audio Amps

    From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 11:19:56 2026
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    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 05:56:18 2026
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    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things
    small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on
    turntables and tubes.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 01:52:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 11/01/2026 12:56 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things
    small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on
    turntables and tubes.

    There are actually sensible people involved in audio, and good quality amplifiers and loud speakers are worth paying for.

    Audiofools pay absurd money for essentially bizarre speakers and
    amplifiers that don't perform any better than regular good quality
    stuff, and sometimese perform quite a bit worse.

    I once gave my father some qood quality headphones - Sennheiser 480's -
    and they performed a whole lot better than the equally expensive
    headphones that his audio shop in Melbourne had sold him. He was
    surprised. I snaffled them back after he died - my mother wasn't into headphones.
    --
    Bill Sloman, sydney
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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 18:58:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 05:56:18 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things
    small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on
    turntables and tubes.

    So what else are they suited to?
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 11:39:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:58:44 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 05:56:18 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things
    small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on
    turntables and tubes.

    So what else are they suited to?

    GaN? Lots of things.

    We're using them in fast switches, the output stages of this:

    https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P500

    which makes beautiful clean pulses. We're doing a high voltage pulse
    generator too.

    GaN is used in tiny wall warts. And for RF stuff. I think some
    microwave ovens use them instead of magnetrons.

    Their figures of merit, amps/pF and such, are astounding. And they
    turn on hard with 5-volt gate drive.






    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 19:58:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:39:24 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:58:44 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 05:56:18 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things
    small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on >>>turntables and tubes.

    So what else are they suited to?

    GaN? Lots of things.

    We're using them in fast switches, the output stages of this:

    https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P500

    which makes beautiful clean pulses. We're doing a high voltage pulse >generator too.

    GaN is used in tiny wall warts. And for RF stuff. I think some
    microwave ovens use them instead of magnetrons.

    Their figures of merit, amps/pF and such, are astounding. And they
    turn on hard with 5-volt gate drive.

    Got a ballpark Rdson?







    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 12:41:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 19:58:48 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:39:24 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:58:44 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 05:56:18 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things >>>>small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on >>>>turntables and tubes.

    So what else are they suited to?

    GaN? Lots of things.

    We're using them in fast switches, the output stages of this:

    https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P500

    which makes beautiful clean pulses. We're doing a high voltage pulse >>generator too.

    GaN is used in tiny wall warts. And for RF stuff. I think some
    microwave ovens use them instead of magnetrons.

    Their figures of merit, amps/pF and such, are astounding. And they
    turn on hard with 5-volt gate drive.

    Got a ballpark Rdson?


    There are a zillion parts. Some of the tiny EPC things get down to
    280 uohms with 5 volts on the gate.

    This is 650v and 190m.

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/nexperia-usa-inc/GAN190-650FBEZ/19109776?s=N4IgTCBcDaIOIEEByBGAnABgLQDYCsGAYgEICiABCALoC%2BQA


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 21:18:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 12:41:31 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 19:58:48 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:39:24 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:58:44 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 05:56:18 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things >>>>>small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on >>>>>turntables and tubes.

    So what else are they suited to?

    GaN? Lots of things.

    We're using them in fast switches, the output stages of this:

    https://highlandtechnology.com/Product/P500

    which makes beautiful clean pulses. We're doing a high voltage pulse >>>generator too.

    GaN is used in tiny wall warts. And for RF stuff. I think some
    microwave ovens use them instead of magnetrons.

    Their figures of merit, amps/pF and such, are astounding. And they
    turn on hard with 5-volt gate drive.

    Got a ballpark Rdson?


    There are a zillion parts. Some of the tiny EPC things get down to
    280 uohms with 5 volts on the gate.

    Wow! I thought you were going to say 0.01 Ohms or somethin' like it. I
    am *so* far behind the times!


    This is 650v and 190m.

    https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/nexperia-usa-inc/GAN190-650FBEZ/19109776?s=N4IgTCBcDaIOIEEByBGAnABgLQDYCsGAYgEICiABCALoC%2BQA


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Edward Rawde@invalid@invalid.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 22:56:31 2026
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    "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote in message news:ga85mk52chdagqnra78klbtd9fkr3t5bcm@4ax.com...
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 05:56:18 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:19:56 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    Are they typically, or invariably even, set up to run in class D?

    CD

    Certainly switchmode, not linear.

    There are a bunch of named classes, but all are basically class D.

    GaNs can switch really fast, which for a given power makes things
    small. Aside from that, they have no real advantages over mosfets.

    A delta-sigma GaN amp might be fun.

    But audio makes no sense, which is why people still spend big on
    turntables and tubes.

    So what else are they suited to?

    You can have fun with them in audio amplifiers if you want.
    But there are many reasons why I won't be putting this into production
    any time soon. It takes very little adjustment of R16 to blow up the FETs.

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