• OT: Seized Tanker Likely Has Gold Onboard

    From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 14:02:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 14:37:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    Maybe King Kong will cool when he finds now Russian nukes are on the way to Cuba, Venezuela and Mar-a-Lago of course
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 08:23:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's
    war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price
    caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand,
    price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales
    continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped
    jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another
    humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that
    bungler.

    Fun!


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 03:55:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 04:32:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 3:23 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's
    war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price
    caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand,
    price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales
    continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped
    jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another
    humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that bungler.

    Fun!

    The US is tolerating Donald Trump's bungling with singular
    insouciance. He hasn't yet got to the level of administrative repression
    of dissidents that Putin enjoys, but he is having people he doesn't like prosecuted with some enthusiasm. Presumably he will move on to having
    their underwear smeared with nerve gas as his lunacy progresses.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 11:22:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 03:55:12 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.

    TDS is a terrible affliction. It can fatally distract from electronic
    design.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Lasse Langwadt@llc@fonz.dk to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 20:33:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 12:10:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:33:07 +0100, Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:

    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd

    It doesn't look like a good spot for another Trump golf resort.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Phil Hobbs@pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 20:22:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of precedent.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs
    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 21:25:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thereAs lots of >precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Wed Jan 7 14:11:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thereAs lots of >precedent.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    It must be strange, historically, to build a country by paying for it.

    Most people just take it.

    It's also strange to annex a region by letting the residents vote on
    it first.




    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Lasse Langwadt@llc@fonz.dk to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 00:21:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/7/26 21:22, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of precedent.


    and Denmark sold St Thomas, St John, and St Croix back when having
    colonies went out of fashion

    But Denmark doesn't "own" Greenland, It would be more like the UK
    selling Northern Ireland
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Thu Jan 8 03:52:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's
    war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price
    caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand,
    price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales
    continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped
    jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another
    humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe
    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows
    US is bankrupt and totally in debt.


    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion' YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Wed Jan 7 20:32:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's
    war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price
    caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped
    jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is
    still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows
    US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion' >YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not
    having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them
    are here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Thu Jan 8 04:55:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's
    war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price
    caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is
    still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows
    US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion' >>YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not
    having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them
    are here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate


    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/

    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue.
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Thu Jan 8 15:59:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 3:32 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's
    war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price
    caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand,
    price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales
    continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped
    jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another
    humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that
    bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is
    still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows
    US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion' >> YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not
    having babies.

    Like every other advanced industrial country, China's fertility rate
    isn't high enough to sustain it's current population. The people who are
    still making babies like them better than the people who aren't, so
    evolution will stabilise the population at a lower level than the
    current numbers, perhaps half.

    Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them are here.

    Talent is always mobile. America used to be a preferred destination, but
    it has become less attractive in recent years. Happier countries
    offering a better quality of life have become more attractive.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(Wilkinson_and_Pickett_book)

    There are good reasons for not liking the USA. You prefer to ignore them
    and write them off as silly stories. Donald Trump doesn't like reality
    either and prefers to invent his own silly stories.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:06:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 6:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 03:55:12 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.

    TDS is a terrible affliction. It can fatally distract from electronic
    design.

    Trump is clearly deranged. Stupid people can ignore the evidence - if
    you are gullible enough to believe his lies you are probably stupid
    enough to ignore the risks of putting a lunatic into White House.

    In his first four years in the job he only managed to kill a few hundred thousand Americans by mismanaging the response to the Covid-19 epidemic.
    He seems to be more ambitious for his second term.
    --
    Bill Sloman Sydney
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:08:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 8:25 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.

    If Trump were remotely sane, that's the way he would talk about it. He's
    being a whole lot more jingoistic than that.

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:13:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 9:11 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of
    precedent.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    It must be strange, historically, to build a country by paying for it.

    It's a whole lot cheaper than fighting a war.

    Most people just take it.

    Many more try, and get killed trying.

    It's also strange to annex a region by letting the residents vote on
    it first.

    If you don't want waste a generation fighting local insurrections,
    letting them vote can save a lot of money.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Thu Jan 8 04:35:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price >>>>caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is
    still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows
    US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion' >>>YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not
    having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them
    are here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate


    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe
    the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will
    act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue.

    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it. Now it's an
    impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba
    should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany
    were.

    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    The Russians dare not try to nuke us. None of their missiles or bombs
    would still work. All the good parts have been stolen by now.

    They had warships escorting that tanker so we just ignored Putin and
    took it.




    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 04:41:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 16:06:06 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 6:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 03:55:12 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.

    TDS is a terrible affliction. It can fatally distract from electronic
    design.

    Trump is clearly deranged. Stupid people can ignore the evidence - if
    you are gullible enough to believe his lies you are probably stupid
    enough to ignore the risks of putting a lunatic into White House.

    In his first four years in the job he only managed to kill a few hundred >thousand Americans by mismanaging the response to the Covid-19 epidemic.
    He seems to be more ambitious for his second term.

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Thu Jan 8 13:17:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>>war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price >>>>>caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>>>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>>>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of >>>>>secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>>jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>>>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is
    still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows
    US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion' >>>>YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not
    having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them >>>are here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate


    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe
    the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will
    act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue.

    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it. Now it's an >impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba
    should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany
    were.


    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+many+people+do+have+to+sleep+on+the+streets+in+cuba+versus+the+US
    Search Assist

    Cuba has virtually eliminated homelessness, with no significant number of people sleeping on the streets,
    while the United States has around 650,000 homeless individuals on any given night.
    This stark contrast is largely due to Cuba's housing policies and social support systems.
    ,,

    You have no clue.


    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    No, their people's land was stolen, their access to the sea blocked,

    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!

    The Russians dare not try to nuke us. None of their missiles or bombs
    would still work. All the good parts have been stolen by now.

    You leave them no choice.
    Same for China, N. Korea, Europe, everybody now,
    You Ash is withdrawing from most if not all world organizations
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-states-from-international-organizations-conventions-and-treaties-that-are-contrary-to-the-interests-of-the-united-states/

    You have no clue.





    They had warships escorting that tanker so we just ignored Putin and
    took it.

    Bull

    Remember the Cuba standoff ?
    Who would not push the button when seeing the king kong jerk on their screen?
    https://www.britannica.com/event/Cuban-missile-crisis

    Keep playing the lottery and you may win!!
    Enjoy your vacation in the nuclear sunshine!!!


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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 13:20:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 16:06:06 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 6:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 03:55:12 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.

    TDS is a terrible affliction. It can fatally distract from electronic
    design.

    Trump is clearly deranged. Stupid people can ignore the evidence - if
    you are gullible enough to believe his lies you are probably stupid
    enough to ignore the risks of putting a lunatic into White House.

    In his first four years in the job he only managed to kill a few hundred >>thousand Americans by mismanaging the response to the Covid-19 epidemic. >>He seems to be more ambitious for his second term.

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.


    Lunatic Tramp had Faulty design the COVID virus to hit China,
    it backfired.

    Like every thing he does.

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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@dk4xp@arcor.de to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 14:25:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard


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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 15:17:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:41:46 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 16:06:06 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 6:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 03:55:12 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.

    TDS is a terrible affliction. It can fatally distract from electronic
    design.

    Trump is clearly deranged. Stupid people can ignore the evidence - if
    you are gullible enough to believe his lies you are probably stupid
    enough to ignore the risks of putting a lunatic into White House.

    In his first four years in the job he only managed to kill a few hundred >>thousand Americans by mismanaging the response to the Covid-19 epidemic. >>He seems to be more ambitious for his second term.

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    Bill's got a point for once, though, John (even a stopped clock is
    right twice a day). Trump was crazy to just announce he was serious
    about taking Greenland. He should have just took it and argued the
    toss after he'd secured possession. Now we have the situation where
    he's basically okay 'd it for anyone to march in there and take it. If
    I were Chinky Chan (or whatever his name is) I'd be sending ships up
    there right now and engaging Denmark in talks about selling it under
    Trump's nose to China for a better price than he'd give them.

    As for Covid, I said all along to just let 'er rip - and I was more
    than old enough to be in the at-risk age group. Bill will probably
    agree with me on that point as well, but of course he'll claim
    otherwise in the hope of provoking an argument (not going to happen,
    Bill!)



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Phil Hobbs@pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 15:23:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard




    The statistics of that study are irreproachable. ;)

    The CCP rCyflu is just a nuisance at this point. I had it in November.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs
    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Fri Jan 9 03:29:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 11:35 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>> wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>> war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price
    caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>>> price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales
    continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of
    secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>> jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another
    humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>> bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is
    still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows
    US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion'
    YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not
    having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them
    are here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate


    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe
    the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will
    act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue.

    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it.

    Batista was a military dictator who ran the country in a way that made
    it attractive to well-off US tourists. Since you seem to like the way
    Trump is now running the US you may not be aware of the defects of the
    Batista regime - Castro made it less of a cash cow for American
    business, and the then US adminstration took their revenge by wrecking
    the Cuban economy.

    Now it's an
    impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba
    should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany
    were.

    They did lose an economic war with the US, but didn't surrender, as
    Japan was obliged to do. Irak didn't do all that well out of losing
    their war with the US either.

    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    Hamas were a pretty unpleasant bunch, and they lost their war with
    Israel, but despite Trumps ideas about making Gaza into some kind of
    holiday resort, it's population is still starving and living in tents.

    The Russians dare not try to nuke us. None of their missiles or bombs
    would still work. All the good parts have been stolen by now.

    Anybody who is prepared to start a nuclear exchange isn't remotely sane. Lunatics like Trump and Putin do take insane risks. And the military
    gear that Russian is still dropping on the Ukraine still seems to work -
    your theory about all the good parts having been stolen doesn't seem to
    hold up there.

    They had warships escorting that tanker so we just ignored Putin and
    took it.

    Or you didn't understand what was actually going on.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 03:35:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 8/01/2026 11:41 pm, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 16:06:06 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 6:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 03:55:12 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.

    TDS is a terrible affliction. It can fatally distract from electronic
    design.

    Trump is clearly deranged. Stupid people can ignore the evidence - if
    you are gullible enough to believe his lies you are probably stupid
    enough to ignore the risks of putting a lunatic into White House.

    In his first four years in the job he only managed to kill a few hundred
    thousand Americans by mismanaging the response to the Covid-19 epidemic.
    He seems to be more ambitious for his second term.

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing.

    Covid killed a lot of people, and many fewer when the vaccines became available.

    Maybe vaccinate some people at high risk.

    It was a new virus - everybody was at high risk. People still died after
    the vaccines became available, but most them hadn't been vaccinated.

    You seem to know about as much about managing infectious diseases as you
    know about anthropogenic global warming.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 03:43:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/01/2026 2:17 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:41:46 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 16:06:06 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 6:22 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 03:55:12 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.

    TDS is a terrible affliction. It can fatally distract from electronic
    design.

    Trump is clearly deranged. Stupid people can ignore the evidence - if
    you are gullible enough to believe his lies you are probably stupid
    enough to ignore the risks of putting a lunatic into White House.

    In his first four years in the job he only managed to kill a few hundred >>> thousand Americans by mismanaging the response to the Covid-19 epidemic. >>> He seems to be more ambitious for his second term.

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    Bill's got a point for once, though, John (even a stopped clock is
    right twice a day). Trump was crazy to just announce he was serious
    about taking Greenland. He should have just took it and argued the
    toss after he'd secured possession. Now we have the situation where
    he's basically okay 'd it for anyone to march in there and take it. If
    I were Chinky Chan (or whatever his name is) I'd be sending ships up
    there right now and engaging Denmark in talks about selling it under
    Trump's nose to China for a better price than he'd give them.

    As for Covid, I said all along to just let 'er rip - and I was more
    than old enough to be in the at-risk age group. Bill will probably
    agree with me on that point as well, but of course he'll claim
    otherwise in the hope of provoking an argument (not going to happen,
    Bill!)

    Nobody sane argues with Cursitor Doom - they just point out that he's an ignorant half-wit.

    I posted quite a lot about the Covid-19 virus here, while the vaccines
    were being developed and while they were becoming widely available.

    Letting it rip. which is pretty much what Trump did in the US - he got
    very sick with it before the vaccines became available even for people
    like him - would have been a terrible idea.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydey

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  • From Phil Hobbs@pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 11:53:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts
    them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    I wish all of that weren't true, but it is.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 09:16:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:53:56 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thereAs lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    Right. No good negotiator opens with the offer of the minimum they are
    willing to settle for.

    I realized long ago that sometimes it pays to appear to be crazy,
    because people give up bargaining with crazy people.



    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and >France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some >political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    I wish all of that weren't true, but it is.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    I was just telling my guys how lucky they are to be living in
    interesting times. There were thousands of years when basically
    nothing happened.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 17:29:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of >>> precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and >France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some >political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe
    Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away.
    We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.
    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!




    I wish all of that weren't true, but it is.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    ;-)
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 04:30:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/01/2026 3:53 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is
    that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about
    siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised
    it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of >>> precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style.-a For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    His business career was like that too, but the proposals that everybody
    was fine with turned into projects that went bankrupt on a large scale.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch.

    Except that Europe isn't de-industrialisng, and their societies aren't
    getting "progressively destabilisied".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(Wilkinson_and_Pickett_book)

    makes the point that the US is suffering from gross income inequality -
    and it's getting worse under Trump - and that more the moderate income inequality that you see over most of Europe does a lot less damage to
    the social fabric.

    Mary Kaldor's 1981 book

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1981-09-01/baroque-arsenal

    makes the point that what the US values in it's military arsenal is
    expensive elaboration. The US establishment isn't impressed by people
    who don't want to buy their fancy weapons. The Ukraine makes a lot more
    use of cheap drones than the US military establishment would like, and
    spends a whole lot less than the US military-industrial complex would
    like them to.

    There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and France's nuclear posture, but that's about it.-a There used to be some political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    The Euro elites are a whole lot more accountable than the US
    technological industry that Trump is wooing.

    Russia can't really afford to invade even the Ukraine - the effort is
    wrecking the Russian economy, such as it is. Russia really isn't going
    to start World War 3. The Soviet Union fell apart because it's economy
    broke down. Putin is trying to put it back together again with a much
    smaller industrial base, but he's being as silly as Donald Trump.

    I wish all of that weren't true, but it is.

    It isn't remotely true. You've been reading too much MAGA propaganda,
    and taking it way too seriously.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Thu Jan 8 10:29:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:17:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>>>war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price >>>>>>caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>>>>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>>>>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of >>>>>>secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>>>jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>>>>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>>>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is >>>>still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows >>>>>US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion'
    YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not >>>>having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them >>>>are here.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate >>>>

    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe
    the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will
    act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue.

    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it. Now it's an >>impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba >>should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany >>were.


    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+many+people+do+have+to+sleep+on+the+streets+in+cuba+versus+the+US
    Search Assist

    Cuba has virtually eliminated homelessness, with no significant number of people sleeping on the streets,
    while the United States has around 650,000 homeless individuals on any given night.
    This stark contrast is largely due to Cuba's housing policies and social support systems.
    ,,

    You have no clue.


    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    No, their people's land was stolen, their access to the sea blocked,

    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!

    That says it all about you. You are a hater, and haters can't think.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 10:35:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 14:25:19 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard


    He probably got it on the airplane, or maybe before he left. The
    timing sounds about right.

    Where do you live? Somewhere that had zero covid cases?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 10:45:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:29:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of >>>> precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse, >>what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the >>deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be >>friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and >>France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some >>political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe >Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away.
    We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.

    OK, no TI or ADI or Efinix or EPC or Nvidia for you. We should embargo
    LT Spice downloads.

    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Give him estonia and latvia and finland, to show him how chummy you
    are.

    You'll have to fight on his side against finland.


    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!

    Things look good here. It's a great place to design electronics,


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@dk4xp@arcor.de to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 22:15:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Am 08.01.26 um 19:35 schrieb john larkin:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 14:25:19 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard


    He probably got it on the airplane, or maybe before he left. The
    timing sounds about right.

    Yeah, with a fresh air nozzle per pax on the flight and
    nothing in the years before in spite of large meetings...

    Where do you live? Somewhere that had zero covid cases?

    In an apartment house full of elderly people, some of
    them _really_ old. At 72, I'm one of the youngsters.
    The target audience for Covid, so to say.
    No Covid cases that I know of. We are all vaccinated.

    I was found a year ago in the 2nd floor of my house
    having vomited a pool of blood. Chance for being found
    in time was abt. 1%, aka extraordinary luck.
    Here, I can get help on the spot if required, everything
    else is equal.
    It's just that the way to the lab is no longer a minute.

    Gerhard

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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:25:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/2026 10:23 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard




    The statistics of that study are irreproachable. ;)

    The CCP rCyflu is just a nuisance at this point. I had it in November.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    There's going to find the origin of the "CCP Flu" real soon now.

    It's in a vault in Wuhan along with the nanothermite that took down the
    Twin Towers and the rifle from Kennedy's third gunman:

    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/335044295704>
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:28:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/2026 10:23 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard




    The statistics of that study are irreproachable. ;)

    The CCP rCyflu is just a nuisance at this point. I had it in November.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    They're going to find the _true_ origin of the "CCP Flu" real soon now.

    It's in a vault in Wuhan along with the nanothermite that took down the
    Twin Towers and the rifle from Kennedy's third gunman:

    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/335044295704>
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:29:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/2026 10:17 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Bill's got a point for once, though, John (even a stopped clock is
    right twice a day). Trump was crazy to just announce he was serious
    about taking Greenland. He should have just took it and argued the
    toss after he'd secured possession. Now we have the situation where
    he's basically okay 'd it for anyone to march in there and take it. If
    I were Chinky Chan (or whatever his name is) I'd be sending ships up
    there right now and engaging Denmark in talks about selling it under
    Trump's nose to China for a better price than he'd give them.

    As for Covid, I said all along to just let 'er rip - and I was more
    than old enough to be in the at-risk age group. Bill will probably
    agree with me on that point as well, but of course he'll claim
    otherwise in the hope of provoking an argument (not going to happen,
    Bill!)

    They're going to find the _true_ origin of the "CCP Flu" real soon now.

    It's in a vault in Wuhan along with the nanothermite that took down the
    Twin Towers and the rifle from Kennedy's third gunman:

    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/335044295704>
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:32:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/2026 11:43 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:

    As for Covid, I said all along to just let 'er rip - and I was more
    than old enough to be in the at-risk age group. Bill will probably
    agree with me on that point as well, but of course he'll claim
    otherwise in the hope of provoking an argument (not going to happen,
    Bill!)

    Nobody sane argues with Cursitor Doom - they just point out that he's an ignorant half-wit.

    I posted quite a lot about the Covid-19 virus here, while the vaccines
    were being developed and while they were becoming widely available.

    Letting it rip. which is pretty much what Trump did in the US - he got
    very sick with it before the vaccines became available even-a for people like him - would have been a terrible idea.


    Telling people who don't even seem to care about their own lives why
    they should care about anyone else's poses a bit of a philosophical
    problem, lol.
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:39:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/2026 10:17 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Bill's got a point for once, though, John (even a stopped clock is
    right twice a day). Trump was crazy to just announce he was serious
    about taking Greenland. He should have just took it and argued the
    toss after he'd secured possession. Now we have the situation where
    he's basically okay 'd it for anyone to march in there and take it. If
    I were Chinky Chan (or whatever his name is) I'd be sending ships up
    there right now and engaging Denmark in talks about selling it under
    Trump's nose to China for a better price than he'd give them.

    As for Covid, I said all along to just let 'er rip - and I was more
    than old enough to be in the at-risk age group. Bill will probably
    agree with me on that point as well, but of course he'll claim
    otherwise in the hope of provoking an argument (not going to happen,
    Bill!)
    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.
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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 21:47:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:53:56 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it.
    That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thereAs lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and >France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some >political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    I wish all of that weren't true, but it is.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    99.9% correct, Phil. I would only say that societal fracturing is very
    evident in the US as well. There's still an awful lot of Commies very
    active in stirring the pot for their own ends.
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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@dk4xp@arcor.de to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 00:52:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Am 08.01.26 um 19:45 schrieb john larkin:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:29:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so there|ore4raos lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>> them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe
    Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away.
    We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.

    Read about the EU SAFE & EDIP projects. Started last summer;
    already re4 850B in the pot for weapons procurement (initially 150B).
    Design, documentation, production and use open to the partners.
    Some selected non-EU countries may participate.
    Canada, Aus, Nz, Jap, S-Korea, Turkey since a few days.

    Sorry, no more F-35 with remote kill switch and 35% availability.
    (Those for Canada are 2 years overdue. Not one delivered.)

    Note, the F-35 has been tracked by a Hensoldt radar on the way home
    from last year's AERO exhibition over 100s of Km.
    So much for "stealth".

    Sorry, no more money for Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Grumman and the
    likes. Pay for your planes yourself.

    OK, no TI or ADI or Efinix or EPC or Nvidia for you.

    It is not as if this hadn't happened before. I once met an FAE
    who was not allowed to deliver a reel of 74xxyyy jelly beans
    to Mercedes-Benz in the 'hood because someone had found such
    a thingie in an Iranian drone. Two weeks later, everything was
    fine again, but you cannot build just-in-time in that style.
    I'd bet my a* that Mercedes took the right consequences.

    And I have found an alternative for me to Xilinx/AMD, too.


    We should embargo LT Spice downloads.

    If it was at least ADS. But even that is on the net, in
    cracked state, for $100k less.


    If all you have is a hammer, your world looks like a box
    of nails.

    OMG. We had to program all the important algorithms in spice
    before the prof gave us the Spice 2G6 sources. With it, I learned
    structured programming, the hard way in Fortran.

    LTspice can do nothing that Qspice couldn't do,
    or simmics or open source ng-spice. And Mentor is now
    Siemens CAD. Altium (has spice, too) is Renesas from Japan.


    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Give him estonia and latvia and finland, to show him how chummy you
    are.

    You'll have to fight on his side against finland.

    The Ruzzians are trying to win against Ukraine now in the
    4th year. They are ridicously overestimated. They have a
    GNP the size of Italy and need twice the number of people
    for that. And Italy is not exactly a strong EU member.
    They still have their colonies in the east and make their
    money from selling raw materials from there.
    Like other 3rd world countries.

    They'll collapse if stressed long enough. Last time, that
    happened in '89, with less stress. The Chinese then will
    happily re-address the Usuri invasion as soon as the
    Ruzzians can no longer buy the overpriced mil stuff.

    Unevitable if you take a look at the world map.

    And if the Ukranians can fly drones to Moscow, they can
    also fly drones with 10 Kg of Plutonium or Corium dust.
    Will be fun to shoot them down. NOT.

    Gerhard

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  • From Gerhard Hoffmann@dk4xp@arcor.de to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 00:57:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard
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  • From wmartin@wwm@wwmartin.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:15:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/26 13:39, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 10:17 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Bill's got a point for once, though, John (even a stopped clock is
    right twice a day). Trump was crazy to just announce he was serious
    about taking Greenland. He should have just took it and argued the
    toss after he'd secured possession. Now we have the situation where
    he's basically okay 'd it for anyone to march in there and take it. If
    I were Chinky Chan (or whatever his name is) I'd be sending ships up
    there right now and engaging Denmark in talks about selling it under
    Trump's nose to China for a better price than he'd give them.

    As for Covid, I said all along to just let 'er rip - and I was more
    than old enough to be in the at-risk age group. Bill will probably
    agree with me on that point as well, but of course he'll claim
    otherwise in the hope of provoking an argument (not going to happen,
    Bill!)
    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.
    Right. How many Mullahs did you see leading the troops?
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:22:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:52:21 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 19:45 schrieb john larkin:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:29:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some >>>>> sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under >>>>> huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse, >>>> what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>>> them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the >>>> US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War >>>> 3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe
    Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away. >>> We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.

    Read about the EU SAFE & EDIP projects. Started last summer;
    already C 850B in the pot for weapons procurement (initially 150B).
    Design, documentation, production and use open to the partners.
    Some selected non-EU countries may participate.
    Canada, Aus, Nz, Jap, S-Korea, Turkey since a few days.

    Sorry, no more F-35 with remote kill switch and 35% availability.
    (Those for Canada are 2 years overdue. Not one delivered.)

    Note, the F-35 has been tracked by a Hensoldt radar on the way home
    from last year's AERO exhibition over 100s of Km.
    So much for "stealth".

    I think near-gigabuck manned fighter planes are obsolete. Ukraine
    launches hundreds of cheap suicide drones and some get through. An AI
    fighter won't pass out from G forces and won't leave widows behind.



    Sorry, no more money for Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Grumman and the
    likes. Pay for your planes yourself.

    OK, no TI or ADI or Efinix or EPC or Nvidia for you.

    It is not as if this hadn't happened before. I once met an FAE
    who was not allowed to deliver a reel of 74xxyyy jelly beans
    to Mercedes-Benz in the 'hood because someone had found such
    a thingie in an Iranian drone. Two weeks later, everything was
    fine again, but you cannot build just-in-time in that style.
    I'd bet my a* that Mercedes took the right consequences.

    And I have found an alternative for me to Xilinx/AMD, too.

    We use a lot of Efinix lately. What are you using?

    The Xilinx and Altera stuff have got too bloated.

    I did some electrical testing on an Efinix T20 lately. It's fabulous.



    We should embargo LT Spice downloads.

    If it was at least ADS. But even that is on the net, in
    cracked state, for $100k less.


    If all you have is a hammer, your world looks like a box
    of nails.

    OMG. We had to program all the important algorithms in spice
    before the prof gave us the Spice 2G6 sources. With it, I learned
    structured programming, the hard way in Fortran.

    LTspice can do nothing that Qspice couldn't do,
    or simmics or open source ng-spice. And Mentor is now
    Siemens CAD. Altium (has spice, too) is Renesas from Japan.


    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Give him estonia and latvia and finland, to show him how chummy you
    are.

    You'll have to fight on his side against finland.

    The Ruzzians are trying to win against Ukraine now in the
    4th year. They are ridicously overestimated. They have a
    GNP the size of Italy and need twice the number of people
    for that. And Italy is not exactly a strong EU member.
    They still have their colonies in the east and make their
    money from selling raw materials from there.
    Like other 3rd world countries.

    They'll collapse if stressed long enough. Last time, that
    happened in '89, with less stress. The Chinese then will
    happily re-address the Usuri invasion as soon as the
    Ruzzians can no longer buy the overpriced mil stuff.

    Unevitable if you take a look at the world map.

    And if the Ukranians can fly drones to Moscow, they can
    also fly drones with 10 Kg of Plutonium or Corium dust.
    Will be fun to shoot them down. NOT.

    Gerhard

    John Larkin
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    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 16:50:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 20:19:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.
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  • From bitrex@user@example.net to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 20:21:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of
    the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a
    substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so
    far doesn't have an ideology.
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Thu Jan 8 19:02:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.


    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 15:31:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/01/2026 5:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:29:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so there|ore4raos lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>> them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe
    Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away.
    We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.

    OK, no TI or ADI or Efinix or EPC or Nvidia for you. We should embargo
    LT Spice downloads.

    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Give him estonia and latvia and finland, to show him how chummy you
    are.

    You'll have to fight on his side against finland.


    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!

    Things look good here. It's a great place to design electronics,

    And John Larkin thinks he "designs" electronics, as opposed to cobbling
    stuff together . And he thinks that Donald Trump has "common sense".
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 15:45:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/01/2026 8:47 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:53:56 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of >>>> precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts
    them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    I wish all of that weren't true, but it is.

    99.9% correct, Phil.

    Just the kind of endorsement that Phil would appreciate?

    I would only say that societal fracturing is very
    evident in the US as well. There's still an awful lot of Commies very
    active in stirring the pot for their own ends.

    Cursitor Doom can't tell the difference between communists - autocratic socialists - and democratic socialists like Bernie Sanders and Zohran
    Mamdani. The democratic socialists are stirring the pot to get a better
    deal for everybody.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(Wilkinson_and_Pickett_book)

    makes the point that less income inequality makes a country a better
    place for everybody who lives there - even the well-off.

    The ridiculously well-off don't like the idea, and spend lots of money
    (a lot of it with Rupert Murdoch) on lying propaganda trying to
    contradict it.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Fri Jan 9 05:52:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:17:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>>in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>>>>war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price >>>>>>>caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like >>>>>>>Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>>>>>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>>>>>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of >>>>>>>secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>>>>jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>>>>>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>>>>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is >>>>>still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows >>>>>>US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion'
    YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not >>>>>having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them >>>>>are here.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate >>>>>

    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe >>>the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will
    act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue.

    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it. Now it's an >>>impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba >>>should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany >>>were.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+many+people+do+have+to+sleep+on+the+streets+in+cuba+versus+the+US
    Search Assist

    Cuba has virtually eliminated homelessness, with no significant number of people sleeping on the streets,
    while the United States has around 650,000 homeless individuals on any given night.
    This stark contrast is largely due to Cuba's housing policies and social support systems.
    ,,

    You have no clue.


    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    No, their people's land was stolen, their access to the sea blocked,

    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!

    That says it all about you. You are a hater, and haters can't think.

    Your brain wash removed parts of your brain.
    You need a better, less dangerous detergent than US made crap!



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Fri Jan 9 06:10:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:29:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of >>>>> precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse, >>>what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>>them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the >>>deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of >>>their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the >>>US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be >>>friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and >>>France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some >>>political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War >>>3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe >>Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away. >>We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.

    OK, no TI or ADI or Efinix or EPC or Nvidia for you. We should embargo
    LT Spice downloads.

    That would help the real electronics guys here.
    I never use LT spice, spices in food are OK.
    Cheap Chinese chips plenty.

    Your AI is mostly .. as good as -- your precedent..

    Nvidia is nothing without ASML technology located here in Europe in the Netherlands
    that you shitheads try to stop from exporting to China.






    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Give him estonia and latvia and finland, to show him how chummy you
    are.

    You'll have to fight on his side against finland.


    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!



    Things look good here. It's a great place to design electronics,

    Not a single product you made is in the shops for the people.
    Just silly stuff for silly clowns doing impossible stuff like 'fussion'
    Your science polluted by Albert NeinStein brain noise.

    Boeings falling from the sky...
    Moon landings? You lost it..
    Mars? Musk? forget it
    All he does is polluting space with hundreds of silly low orbit satellites that nobody realy needs.

    It's all over now baby US!!!!!!!

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Lunatics yes!!!!

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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 06:34:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 19:35 schrieb john larkin:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 14:25:19 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate
    some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard


    He probably got it on the airplane, or maybe before he left. The
    timing sounds about right.

    Yeah, with a fresh air nozzle per pax on the flight and
    nothing in the years before in spite of large meetings...

    Where do you live? Somewhere that had zero covid cases?

    In an apartment house full of elderly people, some of
    them _really_ old. At 72, I'm one of the youngsters.
    The target audience for Covid, so to say.
    No Covid cases that I know of. We are all vaccinated.

    I was found a year ago in the 2nd floor of my house
    having vomited a pool of blood. Chance for being found
    in time was abt. 1%, aka extraordinary luck.
    Here, I can get help on the spot if required, everything
    else is equal.
    It's just that the way to the lab is no longer a minute.

    Gerhard

    I will be 80 years old in a few month.
    Live at home with all my electronic stuff and a big garden I maintain.
    Refused COVID shots
    Never even had a cold.
    Plenty people here who did get sick
    some died from the COVID shots causing heart problems.

    I do biking, cooking, run around all day long, still write code and design electronics.

    See this for US snake oil vaccins killing and damaging thousands of young people:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm


    So,
    quote from that link:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.
    end quote

    That was already clear to me after reading the results of the first tests.
    But people only read and believe what the local polly-ticksians say.. US selling DANGEROUS snake oil.
    Like the F35 :-)




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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 06:40:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.

    The body kills thousands of invading lifeforms all the time.
    Religion is make belief used by some to control people.
    Fairy tales.
    It creates nut cases and tries to keep them that way.
    Sucks your money.

    Nature is simple.


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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 06:43:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of >>>>> the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a
    substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so
    far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by OVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm

    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.
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  • From Jeroen Belleman@jeroen@nospam.please to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 11:12:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/9/26 01:50, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    It also says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" somewhere.
    Substitute "witch" with anything you don't like.

    Religion is, and has always been, fertile ground for killing.

    Jeroen Belleman
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 00:24:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so
    far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm

    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people
    now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than
    even one in 16,750.

    Most heart disease is caused cholesterol furring up your arteries - my
    own heart disorder (a malformed aortic valve) seems to have been
    inherited. My youngest brother has much the same condition but not badly enough to justify replacing it. I had mine done in 2010, and they
    typically last 10 to 15 years before they need replacing.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Fri Jan 9 06:33:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 09 Jan 2026 05:52:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:17:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>>>>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>>>in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>>carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>>>>>war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price >>>>>>>>caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like >>>>>>>>Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>>>>>>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>>>>>>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of >>>>>>>>secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>>>>>jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>>>>>>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>>>>>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is >>>>>>still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows >>>>>>>US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion'
    YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not >>>>>>having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them >>>>>>are here.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate >>>>>>

    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe >>>>the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will >>>>act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue. >>>>
    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it. Now it's an >>>>impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba >>>>should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany >>>>were.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+many+people+do+have+to+sleep+on+the+streets+in+cuba+versus+the+US
    Search Assist

    Cuba has virtually eliminated homelessness, with no significant number of people sleeping on the streets,
    while the United States has around 650,000 homeless individuals on any given night.
    This stark contrast is largely due to Cuba's housing policies and social support systems.
    ,,

    You have no clue.


    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    No, their people's land was stolen, their access to the sea blocked,

    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!

    That says it all about you. You are a hater, and haters can't think.

    Your brain wash removed parts of your brain.
    You need a better, less dangerous detergent than US made crap!

    Do you celebrate the death camps, six million killed in gas chambers
    and ovens, machine-gunning villagers in the Netherlands and Belguim?

    I bet you do.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 06:44:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 11:12:34 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/9/26 01:50, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    It also says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" somewhere.

    That must be somewhere esle.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments


    Substitute "witch" with anything you don't like.

    Religion is, and has always been, fertile ground for killing.

    The 10c's were an early and critical step in The Enlightment. As was
    the Reformation, English common law and the Magna Carta, and the US Constitution as amended.



    Jeroen Belleman

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Fri Jan 9 15:09:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Fri, 09 Jan 2026 05:52:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:17:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>>>>>wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>>>>in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>>>carried out for no good reason IMO.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>>>>>>war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price >>>>>>>>>caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like >>>>>>>>>Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand, >>>>>>>>>price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>>>>>>>continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of >>>>>>>>>secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>>>>>>jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>>>>>>>humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>>>>>>bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe

    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is >>>>>>>still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows >>>>>>>>US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion'
    YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not >>>>>>>having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them >>>>>>>are here.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate >>>>>>>

    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe >>>>>the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will >>>>>act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue. >>>>>
    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it. Now it's an >>>>>impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba >>>>>should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany >>>>>were.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+many+people+do+have+to+sleep+on+the+streets+in+cuba+versus+the+US
    Search Assist

    Cuba has virtually eliminated homelessness, with no significant number of people sleeping on the streets,
    while the United States has around 650,000 homeless individuals on any given night.
    This stark contrast is largely due to Cuba's housing policies and social support systems.
    ,,

    You have no clue.


    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    No, their people's land was stolen, their access to the sea blocked,

    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!

    That says it all about you. You are a hater, and haters can't think.

    Your brain wash removed parts of your brain.
    You need a better, less dangerous detergent than US made crap!

    Do you celebrate the death camps, six million killed in gas chambers
    and ovens, machine-gunning villagers in the Netherlands and Belguim?

    I bet you do.


    You ARE a clueless moron,

    My father, a journalist (and he was in the resistance here to) was put in a German concentration camp in WW2.
    He was freed by the Russians.
    America had nothing to do with freeing us here, they were busy losing from Japan
    It was European research let them make the bomb a bit earlier than Europe / Germany did.

    That caused Japan to surrender.

    These days everybody and their cat has nukes, including the Islamic countries that you seem to want to destroy.

    France (and UK) have nukes too..
    I think Germany also has some.

    Now if you do not stop pestering the world, either with tariffs, or other violence like in Gaza and Westbank, Venezuela, other places
    then that small spot on my globe that the NOT SO UNITED STATES represents (Portland Oregon, Minnesota want your tramp shit OUT..)
    so just a matter of time before the You Ash flag has less stars, IF ANY.

    And YES, precedent tramp is leading a group of religious fanatics killing other groups with a different view
    In the same time he is destroying what is left of 'merryca.
    I would not go there if payed for it now.

    How many jurnalist did is-a-hell kill
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/11/here-are-the-names-of-the-journalists-israel-killed-in-gaza

    Hitler's ideas were caused by what happened in WW1
    He wrote a book 'Mein Kampf' seems to be online (probably redacted).

    In the Darwin and one ant heap against the other may the best one win is my view
    With US IQ dropping it will be others that win.

    That it can be in an other way showed Obama.

    If the CIA manages to oust the Iranian leader they will have a new one that WILL use nukes
    and all that land (look at that globe) 3 nukes and is-a-hell will be gone.. forever.


    Your LAST chance to stop following you idiot leader King Kong

    Clueless idiot!!!!!


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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 15:11:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so >>> far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm

    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people
    now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than
    even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 03:21:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 2:11 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so >>>> far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm

    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people
    now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than
    even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

    It's well known, but here's a reference that makes the point

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351531/

    There a figure that plots Covid cases and deaths in the US from April to December 2021, for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.

    The case rate peaked at about 800 per 100,000 per week at the end of
    August for unvaccinated people, and the death rate peaked at about 20
    per 100,000 per week in the same week for unvaccinated people - that's a
    death rate of one in 40 which is a whole lot more than one 16,750.

    There's probably a more intelligible study out there somewhere, but this
    the first one that Google offered me, and none of the next half dozen
    offered anything more helpful.
    --
    Bill sloman, Sydney



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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sat Jan 10 03:29:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 1:33 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 09 Jan 2026 05:52:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:17:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:55:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 03:52:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:02:03 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    "Russian oil sanctions, led by the U.S., EU, and G7, target Russia's >>>>>>>>> war funding by banning seaborne imports (EU/UK), implementing price >>>>>>>>> caps (G7/EU), and directly sanctioning major companies like
    Rosneft and Lukoil (US), aiming to cut revenue through reduced demand,
    price discounts, and service prohibitions, though significant sales >>>>>>>>> continue to buyers like China and India, prompting threats of >>>>>>>>> secondary sanctions to pressure compliance"

    Breach of international law? Who is going to enforce that?

    Most tankers look rusty. It must be a fashion statement, like ripped >>>>>>>>> jeans.

    Putin can use those warships or not. Either way he gets another >>>>>>>>> humiliation. I wonder how much longer the Russians will tolerate that >>>>>>>>> bungler.



    You have it wrong
    The You Ash of A he most indebted country in the known Universe >>>>>>>
    No. Many other countries have higher debt/GDP ratios. And the US is >>>>>>> still inventing things and having babies.

    Japan has about twice our debt/GDP ratio.


    is on an other trip stealing from others.
    Their Mafia like dumbhead tramp sacrificing others..

    Sure in the one ant heap against the other .. but the reality shows >>>>>>>> US is bankrupt and totally in debt.

    Things look pretty good here.




    Putin can just do a statement 'Kiev surrender or we nuke you into oblivion'
    YouCrane would surrender.

    But he can do it to the You Ash or Asses too, Tsar bomba.




    Fun!

    If you like radiation exposure.

    Your last chance of survival now is to surrender and accept Russia and China as the world leading powers.
    If you are VERY NICE you may live.

    I think russa and china are trashed in the long term. China is not >>>>>>> having babies. Russia has chased its best talent out, and many of them >>>>>>> are here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate >>>>>>>

    Japan holds the most of US debt, better be nice to them,
    same for China
    https://nchstats.com/us-debt-holders-2025/


    What are they going to do, demand gold?

    "If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you're in trouble. If you owe >>>>> the bank a million dollars, they're in trouble."

    If Japan or China wants their US debt to be worth anything, they will >>>>> act in ways that help the US economy. Cool.


    You don't like the USA so you make up silly stories.

    I dunno about USA, but your king kong is a murdering jerk
    His COVID sceme killed millions and still does, and now in Gaza
    and now killing Cuban, you will be nuked into oblivion if you continue. >>>>>
    Cuba was beautiful and wealthy until Castro ruined it. Now it's an
    impoverished garbage heap that imports sugar and exports talent. Cuba >>>>> should be so lucky as to lose a war with the USA, as Japan and Germany >>>>> were.


    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+many+people+do+have+to+sleep+on+the+streets+in+cuba+versus+the+US
    Search Assist

    Cuba has virtually eliminated homelessness, with no significant number of people sleeping on the streets,
    while the United States has around 650,000 homeless individuals on any given night.
    This stark contrast is largely due to Cuba's housing policies and social support systems.
    ,,

    You have no clue.


    Gaza is run by thugs who hide in tunnels. Ditto losing a war.

    No, their people's land was stolen, their access to the sea blocked,

    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!

    That says it all about you. You are a hater, and haters can't think.

    Your brain wash removed parts of your brain.
    You need a better, less dangerous detergent than US made crap!

    Do you celebrate the death camps, six million killed in gas chambers
    and ovens, machine-gunning villagers in the Netherlands and Belguim?

    I bet you do.

    You'd lose. Right-wingers in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are
    very careful not to look like Nazi's. It's illegal.

    I lived there for 19 years and I never saw any suggestion of any such celebration. The house we lived had actually been built for a prominent
    member of the Dutch Nazi party before the war , and he had sold it
    cheaply immediately after the war as he made himself scarce.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Fri Jan 9 08:44:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 03:29:56 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/01/2026 1:33 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 09 Jan 2026 05:52:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:17:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>> wrote:





    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!



    That says it all about you. You are a hater, and haters can't think.

    Your brain wash removed parts of your brain.
    You need a better, less dangerous detergent than US made crap!

    Do you celebrate the death camps, six million killed in gas chambers
    and ovens, machine-gunning villagers in the Netherlands and Belguim?

    I bet you do.

    You'd lose. Right-wingers in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are
    very careful not to look like Nazi's. It's illegal.


    Do you agree with Jan that Hitler had a point about the Jews?

    Yes or no.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 03:49:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 1:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 11:12:34 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/9/26 01:50, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>>>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>>>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    It also says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" somewhere.

    That must be somewhere esle.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments


    Substitute "witch" with anything you don't like.

    Religion is, and has always been, fertile ground for killing.

    The 10c's were an early and critical step in The Enlightment. As was
    the Reformation, English common law and the Magna Carta, and the US Constitution as amended.

    You need to read

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Israel

    He's written a lot about the Radical Enlightenment - which ran from
    about 1680 to 1800. I've read several of his books

    The ten commandments and Magna Carta were a lot earlier, and aren't seen
    as all that enlightened.

    If you haven't heard of Spinoza, you aren't actually enlightened in any
    useful way.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 04:37:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/01/2026 5:34 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 19:35 schrieb john larkin:
    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 14:25:19 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 13:41 schrieb john larkin:

    The best thing to do for Covid was probably nothing. Maybe vaccinate >>>>> some people at high risk.

    2 years ago, my brother travelled to Boston and had it
    within 5 days. So much for the contamination level here
    and there. I know of no case here personally, and I now
    live in a high risk environment.
    (yes, statistics, bla, bla)

    It was no fun btw.

    Gerhard


    He probably got it on the airplane, or maybe before he left. The
    timing sounds about right.

    Yeah, with a fresh air nozzle per pax on the flight and
    nothing in the years before in spite of large meetings...

    Where do you live? Somewhere that had zero covid cases?

    In an apartment house full of elderly people, some of
    them _really_ old. At 72, I'm one of the youngsters.
    The target audience for Covid, so to say.
    No Covid cases that I know of. We are all vaccinated.

    I was found a year ago in the 2nd floor of my house
    having vomited a pool of blood. Chance for being found
    in time was abt. 1%, aka extraordinary luck.
    Here, I can get help on the spot if required, everything
    else is equal.
    It's just that the way to the lab is no longer a minute.

    Gerhard

    I will be 80 years old in a few month.
    Live at home with all my electronic stuff and a big garden I maintain. Refused COVID shots
    Never even had a cold.

    So anti-social with very little human contact.

    Plenty people here who did get sick
    some died from the COVID shots causing heart problems.

    Very few. Many fewer than those that died because Covid-19 killed them

    I do biking, cooking, run around all day long, still write code and design electronics.

    See this for US snake oil vaccins killing and damaging thousands of young people:

    It's not any kind of snake oil vaccine. It's pretty effective at
    stopping you getting infected by the Covid-19 virus, and no less
    effective at helping you clear the virus if it does manage to infect
    you. The vaccinated typically suffer a much less severe infections, and
    are much less likely to die of the infection than the unvaccinated.

    And it's not a specifically a US vaccine - the early Covid vaccines were developed in a number of countries - and can be manufactured pretty much anywhere.

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm

    That doesn't say that the vaccines are killing an damaging thousands of
    young people. It's a rare side effect - about one in tens of thousands -
    and rarely kills anybody. Mostly you get over it without suffering any permanent damage.

    So,
    quote from that link:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.
    end quote

    That was already clear to me after reading the results of the first tests.

    Your capacity for self-delusion is remarkable.

    But people only read and believe what the local polly-ticksians say.. US selling DANGEROUS snake oil.
    Like the F35 :-)

    The F35 works. It's horribly expensive, but it isn't any more dangerous
    than any other single-engined jet fighter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

    You may have been thinking of the F-104. The Germans bought a late,
    heavier version of the F-104 and it it killed a lot of their pilots.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 04:53:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 9/01/2026 4:29 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be
    carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing >>>>>> Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the
    boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of >>>> precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts
    them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    Nonsense. The Russians were nibbling at the Ukraine way earlier than
    than that.

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away.

    He lasted some fifteen years as premier - put together a whole lot of different coalitions over the years. As Dutch premiers go he was one of
    the more successful ones.

    We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.
    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Putin is actually more psychotic than Trump.

    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!

    They need a new and better constitution. The one they have got was a
    very early model, and they've stuck with it for far too long.

    It does favour rich people, and rich people have a lot of money they
    can spend on buying political influence.

    Sometimes it back-fires. The Koch brothers put a lot of money into the
    Tea Party movements, which pretended to be a grass-roots movement but
    was actually an exercise in astro-turfing the Republican Party.

    It's main effect was to get rid of serious Republican politicians, which
    is how Donald Trump got to be the Republican candidate for president.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Fri Jan 9 10:38:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 15:31:01 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/01/2026 5:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:29:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some >>>>> sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under >>>>> huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse, >>>> what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>>> them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the >>>> US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War >>>> 3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe
    Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away. >>> We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.

    OK, no TI or ADI or Efinix or EPC or Nvidia for you. We should embargo
    LT Spice downloads.

    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Give him estonia and latvia and finland, to show him how chummy you
    are.

    You'll have to fight on his side against finland.


    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!

    Things look good here. It's a great place to design electronics,

    And John Larkin thinks he "designs" electronics, as opposed to cobbling >stuff together . And he thinks that Donald Trump has "common sense".

    That's exactly what electronic design is: putting parts on boards and
    boards in boxes to make things that people need.

    The bottom line, in electronics or in politics, is, does it work? Does
    it sell?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 00:33:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>>>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>>>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sat Jan 10 16:57:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 3:44 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 03:29:56 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 10/01/2026 1:33 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 09 Jan 2026 05:52:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 13:17:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>>>> wrote:





    Same now happening in the westbank.
    Them idiot fanatic nutcase monsters youws with weapons from mentally sick You Ash king kong
    Makes you think Hitler had a point!!



    That says it all about you. You are a hater, and haters can't think.

    Your brain wash removed parts of your brain.
    You need a better, less dangerous detergent than US made crap!

    Do you celebrate the death camps, six million killed in gas chambers
    and ovens, machine-gunning villagers in the Netherlands and Belguim?

    I bet you do.

    You'd lose. Right-wingers in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are
    very careful not to look like Nazi's. It's illegal.


    Do you agree with Jan that Hitler had a point about the Jews?

    Yes or no.

    No. It's a lunatic proposition. Conspiracy theory fans like Jan and
    Cursitor Doom do fancy it, but they aren't exactly sane. Hitler - like
    Trump - had lots of silly ideas and they got a lot of people killed.
    Trump's body count is lower than Hitler's - so far - but Trump isn't
    dead yet, and still has a chance to catch up. RFK does seem to be his
    equally murderous henchman.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 17:04:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 11:33 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>>>>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>>>>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Human stupidity is the main problem, and Cursitor Doom does exemplify
    that. Stupid people do take up all sorts of silly ideas, and often kill
    people for absurd reasons. Education does make people less likely to
    fall for stupid ideas, but if you feed enough indoctrination into the education process it becomes less effective.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sat Jan 10 06:13:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 4:29 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that >>>>>>> Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as >>>>>>> a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of >>>>> precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some
    sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under
    huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse,
    what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>> them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the
    US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War
    3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe
    Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    Nonsense. The Russians were nibbling at the Ukraine way earlier than
    than that.

    Na, Ukraine is part of Russia


    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away.

    He lasted some fifteen years as premier - put together a whole lot of >different coalitions over the years. As Dutch premiers go he was one of
    the more successful ones.

    What happened in those fifteen years? Chaos
    His party VVD
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rutte


    Not much came from it
    And just yesterday I did read in the news they have finally formed YET AN OTHER minority government:
    NCaNC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4
    NCaNC> D66,CDA en VVD willen samen een
    minderheidskabinet vormen.Dat hebben de
    onderhandelaars bekendgemaakt na afloop
    van hun gesprekken met informateur
    Letschert op een landgoed in Hilversum.

    Vooraf had Letschert gezegd dat deze
    week duidelijk moest worden hoe de
    formatie moest verdergaan.De VVD hoopte
    op aansluiting van JA21,maar D66 was
    daartegen.Uiteindelijk werden ze het
    eens om met zijn drie|2n verder te gaan.

    "Het wordt hard werken",zegt D66-leider
    Jetten."Maar we denken dat we het
    kunnen."Ze hebben de leiders van
    oppositiepartijen uitgenodigd om te
    praten en willen kijken of ze op grote
    onderwerpen al afspraken kunnen maken.




    We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.
    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Putin is actually more psychotic than Trump.

    Putin wants his 'empire if you will' intact.
    Not infected by US capitalistic destruction.


    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!

    They need a new and better constitution. The one they have got was a
    very early model, and they've stuck with it for far too long.

    It does favour rich people, and rich people have a lot of money they
    can spend on buying political influence.

    Sometimes it back-fires. The Koch brothers put a lot of money into the
    Tea Party movements, which pretended to be a grass-roots movement but
    was actually an exercise in astro-turfing the Republican Party.

    It's main effect was to get rid of serious Republican politicians, which
    is how Donald Trump got to be the Republican candidate for president.

    Repugblicans are a lot of religious fanatic Adam and Eve parroting dumb clowns. Life signs were detected on Mars years ago, but they refuse to acknowledge it:
    http://www.gillevin.com/

    And now precedent King Kong is committing genocide in Gaza and other countries for what reason? his EGO TRIP?

    As to the Holocaust, I posted this to a youwish group:
    "You cannot denounce the holocaust by you are doing the same thing and constantly denying it."
    I do not believe a word of what people are forced to repeat from WW2.
    My experience with youws is very negative,

    As to media, blocking rt.com here in the Netherlands so to force only US crap babble onto people?
    Removing Russian satellite links?
    Sanctioning the International court of justice here?
    Give in to US having the Russia pipeline blow up so we have to buy gas from the US?

    What a bunch of dirty terrorist are those US, those white house bums?
    No economy., less jobs again this month, total in debt, stealing resources from other countries?
    Grabbing their land? Greenland?
    Killing their own people with their own army?
    Criminals in that gold plated War House.
    Mafia in the extreme!!!!




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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 17:15:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 5:38 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 15:31:01 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 9/01/2026 5:45 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:29:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it
    in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US >>>>>>>>> administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing
    to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital. >>>>>>>>>
    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so there|ore4raos lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some >>>>>> sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you >>>>>> humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under >>>>>> huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse, >>>>> what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>>>> them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with. >>>>>
    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of >>>>> their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the >>>>> US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be >>>>> friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and >>>>> France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some >>>>> political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War >>>>> 3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe >>>> Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away. >>>> We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.

    OK, no TI or ADI or Efinix or EPC or Nvidia for you. We should embargo
    LT Spice downloads.

    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom. >>>
    Give him estonia and latvia and finland, to show him how chummy you
    are.

    You'll have to fight on his side against finland.


    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!

    Things look good here. It's a great place to design electronics,

    And John Larkin thinks he "designs" electronics, as opposed to cobbling
    stuff together . And he thinks that Donald Trump has "common sense".

    That's exactly what electronic design is: putting parts on boards and
    boards in boxes to make things that people need.

    Wrong. It's putting the right components on boards arranged in ways that
    get the right results as quickly and cheaply as possible, and putting
    those boards into boxes that will sell and keep on working and keep on
    selling because new customers find them useful.

    The bottom line, in electronics or in politics, is, does it work? Does
    it sell?

    Actually it is, does it keep on working - and working well enough to out-compete competitive designs. Good designs evolve, and sometimes
    expand into new markets.

    Bad designs go obsolete. You do try to avoid competitive markets.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sat Jan 10 06:23:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 2:11 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so >>>>> far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm >>>>>>
    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one
    in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people
    now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than
    even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

    It's well known, but here's a reference that makes the point

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351531/

    There a figure that plots Covid cases and deaths in the US from April to >December 2021, for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.


    That is very old and superficial with no merit
    YouASh snake oil sales pitch.

    Look at at his today:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260107225532.htm
    Long COVID due to amongst other things blood clots

    It is CLEAR even to the blind the COVID shots are behind long COVID!!!!!

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sat Jan 10 22:43:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 5:23 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 2:11 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>>>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so >>>>>> far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm >>>>>>>
    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about one
    in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people >>>> now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than
    even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

    It's well known, but here's a reference that makes the point

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351531/

    There a figure that plots Covid cases and deaths in the US from April to
    December 2021, for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.


    That is very old and superficial with no merit
    YouASh snake oil sales pitch.

    It comes from a period where there were enough unvaccinated people
    around generate samples numerous enough to be worth looking at. Your
    ideas about what constitutes merit aren't to be taken seriously.

    Look at at his today:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260107225532.htm
    Long COVID due to amongst other things blood clots

    It is CLEAR even to the blind the COVID shots are behind long COVID!!!!!

    Long Covid was a known problem long before the vaccines had become
    available. Nothing in that piece suggests that getting vaccinated make
    you more or less likely to get long Covid, if you get infected by the
    Covid-19 virus (which is - of course - less likely if you have been
    vaccinated against it). You aren't blind - just stupid.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sat Jan 10 23:02:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 10/01/2026 5:13 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 4:29 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>wrote:
    On 2026-01-07 16:25, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:22:09 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> wrote:
    On 1/7/26 17:55, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 8/01/2026 1:02 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Chasing a rusting hulk of a tanker across the Atlantic and seizing it >>>>>>>>> in flagrant breach of international maritime law unlikely to be >>>>>>>>> carried out for no good reason IMO.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-deploys-submarine-us-chases-dark-fleet-oil-tanker-across-atlantic

    The likeliest explanation for all this frankly illegal activity is that
    Donald Trump has lost his wits. At some point or other the US
    administration is going to have find a couple of psychiatrists willing >>>>>>>> to sign committal papers and put him into a mental hospital.

    I would have expected it to happen when he started talking about siezing
    Greenland by military force, but people seem to have rationalised it as
    a device to make the Danes more willing to think about selling it. >>>>>>>> That's pretty close to insane too, but Trump has been pushing the >>>>>>>> boundaries for a while now.


    thinking that Denmark can sell Greenland is absurd


    Well, Russia sold Alaska, and France sold Louisiana, so thererCOs lots of
    precedent.

    There is, and it's also better to sell it off under the guise of some >>>>> sort of mutually agreeable compromise than to have it taken off you
    humiliatingly and get nothing in return, plus put NATO's unity under >>>>> huge strain.


    Folks over there don't understand Trump's style. For better or worse, >>>> what he usually does is to say stuff that shakes people up and distracts >>>> them, then present a proposal that everybody's eventually fine with.

    It's important for everybody to understand that with the
    deindustrialization of Europe and the progressive destabilization of
    their societies, at this point the actual military value of NATO to the >>>> US is approximately zilch. There's sentimental value (we used to be
    friends after all), some bases, and some influence over the UK's and
    France's nuclear posture, but that's about it. There used to be some
    political cover too, but now it's only available to Democrats.

    Plus the unaccountable Euro elites are trying to drag us into World War >>>> 3 by balling up their tiny fists and threatening Russia.

    Your nasty CIA clowns are working round thw clock to make war in Europe
    Started in Ukraine under Biden and his son,

    Nonsense. The Russians were nibbling at the Ukraine way earlier than
    than that.

    Na, Ukraine is part of Russia


    All about US weapon sales and trying to weaken the Euro.
    Dollar versus gold in the last few years should give you a clue what that dollar and the You Ash is worth.
    https://www.bullionbypost.com/gold-price/30year/ounces/USD/
    In fact when Nixon decoupled the US dolies from gold it was all over for that You Ash of A.

    NATO? I never liked it, bunch of Russofobia idiots.
    Rutte as NATO head? He was a failure here in the Netherlands, voted away. >>
    He lasted some fifteen years as premier - put together a whole lot of
    different coalitions over the years. As Dutch premiers go he was one of
    the more successful ones.

    What happened in those fifteen years? Chaos
    His party VVD
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rutte


    Not much came from it
    And just yesterday I did read in the news they have finally formed YET AN OTHER minority government:
    NCaNC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4NC4
    NCaNC> D66,CDA en VVD willen samen een
    minderheidskabinet vormen.Dat hebben de
    onderhandelaars bekendgemaakt na afloop
    van hun gesprekken met informateur
    Letschert op een landgoed in Hilversum.

    Vooraf had Letschert gezegd dat deze
    week duidelijk moest worden hoe de
    formatie moest verdergaan.De VVD hoopte
    op aansluiting van JA21,maar D66 was
    daartegen.Uiteindelijk werden ze het
    eens om met zijn drie|2n verder te gaan.

    "Het wordt hard werken",zegt D66-leider
    Jetten."Maar we denken dat we het
    kunnen."Ze hebben de leiders van
    oppositiepartijen uitgenodigd om te
    praten en willen kijken of ze op grote
    onderwerpen al afspraken kunnen maken.




    We need (in Europe!!) to make our own weapons: nukes, fighter jets, missiles, drones, etc etc.
    Do not buy US stuff, I no longer buy US stuff.
    And make peace with Russia, US freedummies are the big enemy of freedom.

    Putin is actually more psychotic than Trump.

    Putin wants his 'empire if you will' intact.
    Not infected by US capitalistic destruction.


    Fix your own disaster country bunch of US clowns. If you can!!!

    They need a new and better constitution. The one they have got was a
    very early model, and they've stuck with it for far too long.

    It does favour rich people, and rich people have a lot of money they
    can spend on buying political influence.

    Sometimes it back-fires. The Koch brothers put a lot of money into the
    Tea Party movements, which pretended to be a grass-roots movement but
    was actually an exercise in astro-turfing the Republican Party.

    It's main effect was to get rid of serious Republican politicians, which
    is how Donald Trump got to be the Republican candidate for president.

    Republicans are a lot of religious fanatic Adam and Eve parroting dumb clowns.

    Right wing Christians are mostly Repulbicans. There are lots of
    repulbicans who aren't.

    Life signs were detected on Mars years ago, but they refuse to acknowledge it:
    http://www.gillevin.com/

    The chemistry is more complicated than Gillevin likes to think. He
    thinks his test results are evidnece of life, in the same sort of way
    the E. Laurneti thinks that his experiments prove that his reactionless
    drive works.

    And now president King Kong is committing genocide in Gaza and other countries
    for what reason? his EGO TRIP?

    Trump isn't actually committing genocide in Gaza - he just not trying to influence Israel into killing fewer civilians there. It's closer to
    genocide than anybody with any kind of moral sense would tolerate, but
    Trump isn't really sane enough to understand the problem.

    As to the Holocaust, I posted this to a youwish group:
    "You cannot denounce the holocaust by you are doing the same thing and constantly denying it."
    I do not believe a word of what people are forced to repeat from WW2.
    My experience with youws is very negative.

    If you could spell the word correctly they might like you better.

    As to media, blocking rt.com here in the Netherlands so to force only US crap babble onto people?
    Removing Russian satellite links?

    There are news sources outside America and Russia. Some of them are
    almost reliable.

    Sanctioning the International court of justice here?
    Give in to US having the Russia pipeline blow up so we have to buy gas from the US?

    What a bunch of dirty terrorist are those US, those white house bums?

    No arguement about that. The Kremlin is worse.

    No economy., less jobs again this month, total in debt, stealing resources from other countries?

    The Netherlands did that for as long as they could get away with it.

    Grabbing their land? Greenland?
    Killing their own people with their own army?
    Criminals in that gold plated War House.
    Mafia in the extreme!!!!

    The Mafia is mainly South Italian, Trump's family came from Germany.
    He's just a regular American criminal with only a few overseas links.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 06:21:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the >>>>>> reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial >>>>>> number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want
    some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jeroen Belleman@jeroen@nospam.please to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 15:41:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>>>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want
    some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    How many languages do you speak?

    Jeroen Belleman
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 07:08:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:41:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want
    some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    How many languages do you speak?

    Jeroen Belleman

    One. My brain doesn't process sounds in to words very well. French
    classes almost flunked me out of high school. I have trouble
    understanding even accented English.

    But if you are suggesting that I'm tribal over language, no. I'm not a
    bit tribal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Fb-SJ9v0M

    Are you a sports fan?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sat Jan 10 15:24:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 5:23 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 2:11 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so
    far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young
    men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm >>>>>>>>
    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about
    one
    in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people >>>>> now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than >>>>> even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

    It's well known, but here's a reference that makes the point

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351531/

    There a figure that plots Covid cases and deaths in the US from April to >>> December 2021, for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.


    That is very old and superficial with no merit
    YouASh snake oil sales pitch.

    It comes from a period where there were enough unvaccinated people
    around generate samples numerous enough to be worth looking at. Your
    ideas about what constitutes merit aren't to be taken seriously.

    Look at at his today:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260107225532.htm
    Long COVID due to amongst other things blood clots

    It is CLEAR even to the blind the COVID shots are behind long COVID!!!!!

    Long Covid was a known problem long before the vaccines had become >available.

    Well, 'long COVID' lasts often the rest of the life of those,
    that often makes it impossible for them to work or live a normal life
    Thats is why 'long'.
    So that CANNOT have been diagnosed before the shots that came within a few month to maybe a few years after COVID was spread.


    Nothing in that piece suggests that getting vaccinated make
    you more or less likely to get long Covid, if you get infected by the >Covid-19 virus (which is - of course - less likely if you have been >vaccinated against it). You aren't blind - just stupid.

    Long COVID is like blood clots the after effect of the COVID shots as described in the original link and you can see the blood clots
    in the picture of the second link I mentioned.

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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 02:41:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 11/01/2026 1:21 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed >>>>>>> there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Communism is just socialism messed up by the leading role of the party.
    It's got the same defect as fascism - the people in power don't have to
    listen the people they are ruling. As Mikhail Bakunin said

    "If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute
    power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself."

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/801264-if-you-took-the-most-ardent-revolutionary-vested-him-in

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want
    some theory to hide behind.

    Not all elites are murderous. Trump and his stooges do seem to be, but
    there are some elites that do try to serve the people they lead,
    Subjecting the elites to regular elections, and using proportional representation in multi-member electorates to force coalition government
    does seem to discourage the formation of murderous factions.

    Language can be a tribal identifier, if you only speak one language. Historically speaking, this is rare. Modern governments do try to
    simplify administration by forcing everybody to speak the national
    language, but lots of regions stick to their own dialects, and learn the national language at school. The Basque regions of Spain come to mind (
    and Basque isn't related to any other language at all). In the
    Netherlands the Fries still speak their own Germanic dialect, and in
    France the Bretons still speak Breton (which is closely related to
    Welsh, Irish and Scottish Gaelic).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sun Jan 11 03:28:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 11/01/2026 2:24 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 5:23 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 2:11 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so
    far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in young
    men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm >>>>>>>>>
    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to about
    one
    in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people >>>>>> now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than >>>>>> even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

    It's well known, but here's a reference that makes the point

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351531/

    There a figure that plots Covid cases and deaths in the US from April to >>>> December 2021, for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.


    That is very old and superficial with no merit
    YouASh snake oil sales pitch.

    It comes from a period where there were enough unvaccinated people
    around generate samples numerous enough to be worth looking at. Your
    ideas about what constitutes merit aren't to be taken seriously.

    Look at at his today:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260107225532.htm
    Long COVID due to amongst other things blood clots

    It is CLEAR even to the blind the COVID shots are behind long COVID!!!!!

    Long Covid was a known problem long before the vaccines had become
    available.

    Well, 'long COVID' lasts often the rest of the life of those,
    that often makes it impossible for them to work or live a normal life
    Thats is why 'long'.
    So that CANNOT have been diagnosed before the shots that came within a few month to maybe a few years after COVID was spread.

    That's not why it was called long. It just lasted longer than than the
    few days it took for the normal infection to run its course. It now
    turns out that in some cases "long Covid" hangs on for years, but people
    were getting it from early 2020, and it was a known problem long before
    the vaccines had even been invented, let alone been put through clinical trials and distributed on any kind of large scale.

    Nothing in that piece suggests that getting vaccinated make
    you more or less likely to get long Covid, if you get infected by the
    Covid-19 virus (which is - of course - less likely if you have been
    vaccinated against it). You aren't blind - just stupid.

    Long COVID is like blood clots the after effect of the COVID shots as described in the original link and you can see the blood clots
    in the picture of the second link I mentioned.

    But none of that means what you would like it mean. You really are stupid.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@cd@notformail.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 20:10:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 07:08:51 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:41:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>>>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want
    some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    How many languages do you speak?

    Jeroen Belleman

    One.

    One's all you need in the English-speaking Diaspora.

    My brain doesn't process sounds in to words very well. French
    classes almost flunked me out of high school. I have trouble
    understanding even accented English.

    Could be something to do with your autism. None of us are good at
    everything; ain't no biggie. I was forced to learn French and German
    at school; waste of fucking time that was. Every time I pass through
    those two countries I see more and more English words taking over so
    I'm wondering why I bothered.

    But if you are suggesting that I'm tribal over language, no. I'm not a
    bit tribal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Fb-SJ9v0M

    Are you a sports fan?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jeroen Belleman@jeroen@nospam.please to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 22:07:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/10/26 16:08, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:41:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as >>>>>>>>> many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want
    some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    How many languages do you speak?

    Jeroen Belleman

    One. My brain doesn't process sounds in to words very well. French
    classes almost flunked me out of high school. I have trouble
    understanding even accented English.

    But if you are suggesting that I'm tribal over language, no. I'm not a
    bit tribal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Fb-SJ9v0M

    Are you a sports fan?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I'm not a sports fan in the usual sense. I generally don't
    watch sports, but I can appreciate a good dance performance.

    I prefer to do it myself. I like Argentine tango and ballroom
    dancing. The ladies seem to love dancing with me, which is
    particularly rewarding.

    Apart from that, I like mountain hiking.

    Jeroen Belleman
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sat Jan 10 14:43:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 22:07:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 16:08, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:41:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and >>>>>>> apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want
    some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    How many languages do you speak?

    Jeroen Belleman

    One. My brain doesn't process sounds in to words very well. French
    classes almost flunked me out of high school. I have trouble
    understanding even accented English.

    But if you are suggesting that I'm tribal over language, no. I'm not a
    bit tribal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Fb-SJ9v0M

    Are you a sports fan?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I'm not a sports fan in the usual sense. I generally don't
    watch sports, but I can appreciate a good dance performance.

    I prefer to do it myself. I like Argentine tango and ballroom
    dancing. The ladies seem to love dancing with me, which is
    particularly rewarding.

    Apart from that, I like mountain hiking.

    Jeroen Belleman


    I can't imagine why anybody would want to dance or watch someone else
    dance. Or make/listen to music.

    But mountains are cool, to hike or ski on.

    Skiing and designing circuits have a similar dynamic feeling.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Jeroen Belleman@jeroen@nospam.please to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 00:17:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 1/10/26 23:43, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 22:07:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 16:08, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:41:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit >>>>>>>>>>> about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want >>>>> some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    How many languages do you speak?

    Jeroen Belleman

    One. My brain doesn't process sounds in to words very well. French
    classes almost flunked me out of high school. I have trouble
    understanding even accented English.

    But if you are suggesting that I'm tribal over language, no. I'm not a
    bit tribal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Fb-SJ9v0M

    Are you a sports fan?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I'm not a sports fan in the usual sense. I generally don't
    watch sports, but I can appreciate a good dance performance.

    I prefer to do it myself. I like Argentine tango and ballroom
    dancing. The ladies seem to love dancing with me, which is
    particularly rewarding.

    Apart from that, I like mountain hiking.

    Jeroen Belleman


    I can't imagine why anybody would want to dance or watch someone else
    dance. Or make/listen to music.

    But mountains are cool, to hike or ski on.

    Skiing and designing circuits have a similar dynamic feeling.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Dancing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. ;-)

    Jeroen Belleman
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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 15:19:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 11/01/2026 7:10 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 07:08:51 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:41:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    How many languages do you speak?

    One.

    One's all you need in the English-speaking Diaspora.

    If you don't want to socialise with your neighbours.

    My brain doesn't process sounds in to words very well. French
    classes almost flunked me out of high school. I have trouble
    understanding even accented English.

    Could be something to do with your autism. None of us are good at
    everything; ain't no biggie.

    There are apparently four different sorts of autism - all of them mess
    up you social interactions in different ways and to different extents.

    https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/new-autism-study-uncovers-four-biological-subtypes/

    I actually got the message from New Scientist. Not being able to learn
    several languages is a significant defect.

    I was forced to learn French and German
    at school; waste of fucking time that was.

    In order to get a science degree in Melbourne in 1960 I had to be able
    to read scientific papers in one of the science languages. The secondary school French I had satisfied the requirement, but I'd also done a bit
    of German at school and did the one year science German course at
    university to get credit for that (and it turned out to be quite
    useful). I also did science Russian, which was less useful.

    Every time I pass through
    those two countries I see more and more English words taking over so
    I'm wondering why I bothered.

    My biggest problem with learning Dutch was discouraging my Dutch
    contacts from practicing their English on me.

    But if you are suggesting that I'm tribal over language, no. I'm not a
    bit tribal.

    Perhaps not about language, but you do identify with plumbers and
    carpenters and other useful tradesmen, less so with creative master
    craftsmen, which is what you ought to be aspiring to be.

    Science does work at taking the mystery out of technology, but it has
    got a long way to go yet.
    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sun Jan 11 06:59:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 2:24 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 5:23 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 2:11 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so
    far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in
    young
    men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory
    signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm >>>>>>>>>>
    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to
    about
    one
    in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people >>>>>>> now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than >>>>>>> even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

    It's well known, but here's a reference that makes the point

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351531/

    There a figure that plots Covid cases and deaths in the US from April to >>>>> December 2021, for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.


    That is very old and superficial with no merit
    YouASh snake oil sales pitch.

    It comes from a period where there were enough unvaccinated people
    around generate samples numerous enough to be worth looking at. Your
    ideas about what constitutes merit aren't to be taken seriously.

    Look at at his today:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260107225532.htm
    Long COVID due to amongst other things blood clots

    It is CLEAR even to the blind the COVID shots are behind long COVID!!!!! >>>
    Long Covid was a known problem long before the vaccines had become
    available.

    Well, 'long COVID' lasts often the rest of the life of those,
    that often makes it impossible for them to work or live a normal life
    Thats is why 'long'.
    So that CANNOT have been diagnosed before the shots that came within a few month to maybe a few years after COVID was spread.

    That's not why it was called long. It just lasted longer than than the
    few days it took for the normal infection to run its course. It now
    turns out that in some cases "long Covid" hangs on for years, but people >were getting it from early 2020, and it was a known problem long before
    the vaccines had even been invented, let alone been put through clinical >trials and distributed on any kind of large scale.

    Nothing in that piece suggests that getting vaccinated make
    you more or less likely to get long Covid, if you get infected by the
    Covid-19 virus (which is - of course - less likely if you have been
    vaccinated against it). You aren't blind - just stupid.

    Long COVID is like blood clots the after effect of the COVID shots as described in the original link and you can see the
    blood clots
    in the picture of the second link I mentioned.

    But none of that means what you would like it mean. You really are stupid.


    Stupid are the ones that fell for the US snake oil and are now suffering? Includes you of course ;-)
    Poor guys indoctrinated by their government, never learned to think clearly and think for themselves.
    So many millions, reciting Adam did it with Eve and other crap.
    Now the victims.
    I can see clearly now!
    Its gonna be a bright bright nuclear sun shiny day!
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=I+can+see+clearly+now+the+rain+is+gone+song+youtube https://genius.com/Johnny-nash-i-can-see-clearly-now-lyrics

    Needs a re-write?



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  • From Bill Sloman@bill.sloman@ieee.org to sci.electronics.design,us.politics on Sun Jan 11 20:25:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On 11/01/2026 5:59 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 2:24 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 5:23 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 2:11 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
    On 9/01/2026 5:43 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net>wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 8:19 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
    wrote:
    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    <snip>

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    Religion likely has the #2 position.

    Murderer of humans I should say. The #1 killer is heart disease which so
    far doesn't have an ideology.

    Caused by COVID shots:

    Stanford scientists uncover why mRNA COVID vaccines can trigger heart inflammation
    Researchers have discovered why mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can occasionally trigger heart inflammation.
    Date:
    December 27, 2025
    Source:
    Stanford Medicine
    Summary:
    Stanford scientists have uncovered how mRNA COVID-19 vaccines can very rarely trigger heart inflammation in
    young
    men
    rCo
    and how that risk might be reduced.
    They found that the vaccines can spark a two-step immune reaction that floods the body with inflammatory
    signals,
    drawing aggressive immune cells into the heart and causing temporary injury.

    Link:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/12/251227082716.htm

    So,
    quote:
    The condition occurs in roughly one out of every 140,000 people after a first vaccine dose and increases to
    about
    one
    in
    32,000 after a second dose.
    Rates are highest among males age 30 and younger, where it affects about one in 16,750 vaccine recipients.

    But your chances of dying of Covid-19 if you catch it - and most people
    now have - if you haven't been vaccinated, are whole lot higher than >>>>>>>> even one in 16,750.

    Show reference!!!

    It's well known, but here's a reference that makes the point

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351531/

    There a figure that plots Covid cases and deaths in the US from April to >>>>>> December 2021, for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.


    That is very old and superficial with no merit
    YouASh snake oil sales pitch.

    It comes from a period where there were enough unvaccinated people
    around generate samples numerous enough to be worth looking at. Your
    ideas about what constitutes merit aren't to be taken seriously.

    Look at at his today:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260107225532.htm
    Long COVID due to amongst other things blood clots

    It is CLEAR even to the blind the COVID shots are behind long COVID!!!!! >>>>
    Long Covid was a known problem long before the vaccines had become
    available.

    Well, 'long COVID' lasts often the rest of the life of those,
    that often makes it impossible for them to work or live a normal life
    Thats is why 'long'.
    So that CANNOT have been diagnosed before the shots that came within a few month to maybe a few years after COVID was spread.

    That's not why it was called long. It just lasted longer than than the
    few days it took for the normal infection to run its course. It now
    turns out that in some cases "long Covid" hangs on for years, but people
    were getting it from early 2020, and it was a known problem long before
    the vaccines had even been invented, let alone been put through clinical
    trials and distributed on any kind of large scale.

    Nothing in that piece suggests that getting vaccinated make
    you more or less likely to get long Covid, if you get infected by the
    Covid-19 virus (which is - of course - less likely if you have been
    vaccinated against it). You aren't blind - just stupid.

    Long COVID is like blood clots the after effect of the COVID shots as described in the original link and you can see the
    blood clots
    in the picture of the second link I mentioned.

    But none of that means what you would like it mean. You really are stupid.


    Stupid are the ones that fell for the US snake oil and are now suffering?

    You haven't identified any actual "American snake oil" and while a very
    few people are suffering from the side effects of American vaccines,
    they had a much higher chance of suffering from worse side effect from a Covid-19 infection if they avoided vaccination. Taking that risk wasn't
    stupid at all. You have accepted a much bigger risk to avoid a very
    remote risk and that really was very stupid of you.

    Includes you of course ;-)

    I got Covid-19 longer after I'd been vaccinated, but I got over it fast,
    and haven't got anything that looks like any kind of long Covid to show
    for it.

    Poor guys indoctrinated by their government, never learned to think clearly and think for themselves.

    Some people - and you are an obvious example - can't think clearly and
    can't blame any government for it.

    So many millions, reciting Adam did it with Eve and other crap.
    Now the victims.
    I can see clearly now!
    Its gonna be a bright bright nuclear sun shiny day!
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=I+can+see+clearly+now+the+rain+is+gone+song+youtube
    https://genius.com/Johnny-nash-i-can-see-clearly-now-lyrics

    Needs a re-write?

    Don't give up the day job.
    --
    Bill Sloman. Sydney

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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 10:00:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    [...]
    Dancing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. ;-)


    DANCING:

    1) The vertical fulfilment of a horizontal desire.

    2) Navel encounter without loss of seamen.
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From john larkin@jl@glen--canyon.com to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 02:30:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:17:24 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 23:43, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 22:07:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 16:08, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:41:50 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/10/26 15:21, john larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:33:06 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 19:02:48 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:19:55 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 1/8/2026 7:50 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 00:57:24 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Am 08.01.26 um 22:39 schrieb bitrex:

    Incidentally, Bertrand Russell once said that if humans really believed
    there was a God and an afterlife they'd have no fear of death, but as
    many US soldiers who fought in Afghanistan could attest (and part of the
    reason the US ain't there no more) is there are definitely a substantial
    number of religious people out there who don't give one single shit
    about dying.

    Religion and killing have been best friends forever.

    Gerhard

    I seem to recall "thou shalt not kill" from somewhere.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I don't think religious strife is the #1 killer of humans. Nihilism and
    apathy probably takes that spot.

    #1 is tribalism.

    Nope. Communism wins hands down.

    Communism, like facism, is just another rallying point for tribal
    thuggery. The nazis invaded countries to "defend" German-speaking
    minorities. Russia attacked Ukraine to defend Russian speakers.

    Language is a major tribal identifier. The murderous elites just want >>>>>> some theory to hide behind.



    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    How many languages do you speak?

    Jeroen Belleman

    One. My brain doesn't process sounds in to words very well. French
    classes almost flunked me out of high school. I have trouble
    understanding even accented English.

    But if you are suggesting that I'm tribal over language, no. I'm not a >>>> bit tribal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Fb-SJ9v0M

    Are you a sports fan?


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    I'm not a sports fan in the usual sense. I generally don't
    watch sports, but I can appreciate a good dance performance.

    I prefer to do it myself. I like Argentine tango and ballroom
    dancing. The ladies seem to love dancing with me, which is
    particularly rewarding.

    Apart from that, I like mountain hiking.

    Jeroen Belleman


    I can't imagine why anybody would want to dance or watch someone else
    dance. Or make/listen to music.

    But mountains are cool, to hike or ski on.

    Skiing and designing circuits have a similar dynamic feeling.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    Dancing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. ;-)

    Phil said that about brainstorming.


    Jeroen Belleman

    If I get on a decent blue slope, I can sideslip and smooth out a 180
    cm wide swath in the snow and trace waveforms with a pole.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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  • From Phil Hobbs@pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 13:46:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:17:24 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    <sniiip>

    Dancing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. ;-)

    Phil said that about brainstorming.

    Nah, whiteboarding is the most fun you can have standing up.

    In contrast to sitting down watching TV, of course.

    Cheers

    Phil rCLslightly more decorousrCY Hobbs


    Jeroen Belleman

    If I get on a decent blue slope, I can sideslip and smooth out a 180
    cm wide swath in the snow and trace waveforms with a pole.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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  • From Jan Panteltje@alien@comet.invalid to sci.electronics.design on Sun Jan 11 15:28:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: sci.electronics.design

    liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham)wrote:
    Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    [...]
    Dancing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. ;-)


    DANCING:

    1) The vertical fulfilment of a horizontal desire.

    2) Navel encounter without loss of seamen.

    Lionel Richie - Dancing On The Ceiling (Official Video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5f9GYux-DA



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