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Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.

This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only
moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
thrust increases over time.

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one)
but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.
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Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.

This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only
moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
thrust increases over time.

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one)
but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.
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On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

E. Laueti clearly thinks that it could, but it hasn't done it yet.

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.

The demonstrations may be real, but what they demonstrate is that they
were devised by hopelessly inept experimentors, and don't convincingly demonstrate anything else at al.

This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

Or might - if the link worked. It just gave me an error message

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only
moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the thrust increases over time.

Thrust? Or convection currents?

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one)
but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

The heat source is in a different place, and may generate a different
pattern of convection currents.

A lithium battery can only discharge in zero seconds by sourcing an
infinite current. Any attempt to do that - or anything that looked close
to that - would melt the lead wires, cutting off the current very
rapidly, and would probably wreck the battery as well as the
experimental set-up.

This is Keystone cops slapstick.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

E. Laueti clearly thinks that it could, but it hasn't done it yet.

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action
and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.

The demonstrations may be real, but what they demonstrate is that they were devised by hopelessly inept experimentors, and don't
convincingly demonstrate anything else at al.

This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 >> powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

It works fine for me but don't bother wasting three minutes.
The video only proves a few things.
One is that too many people have mobile phones for making such video but
no video making skills whatsoever.
Another is that two purple dots on a wall can be made to coincide.

A video explaining in detail what is actually being done might be worth watching
but we know that that isn't likely.

Or might - if the link worked. It just gave me an error message

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only
moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the >> thrust increases over time.

Thrust? Or convection currents?

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one)
but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

The heat source is in a different place, and may generate a different pattern of convection currents.

A lithium battery can only discharge in zero seconds by sourcing an infinite current. Any attempt to do that - or anything that
looked close to that - would melt the lead wires, cutting off the current very rapidly, and would probably wreck the battery as
well as the experimental set-up.

This is Keystone cops slapstick.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

E. Laueti clearly thinks that it could, but it hasn't done it yet.

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action
and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.

The demonstrations may be real, but what they demonstrate is that they were devised by hopelessly inept experimentors, and don't
convincingly demonstrate anything else at al.

This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 >> powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

It works fine for me but don't bother wasting three minutes.
The video only proves a few things.
One is that too many people have mobile phones for making such video but
no video making skills whatsoever.
Another is that two purple dots on a wall can be made to coincide.

A video explaining in detail what is actually being done might be worth watching
but we know that that isn't likely.

Or might - if the link worked. It just gave me an error message

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only
moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the >> thrust increases over time.

Thrust? Or convection currents?

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one)
but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

The heat source is in a different place, and may generate a different pattern of convection currents.

A lithium battery can only discharge in zero seconds by sourcing an infinite current. Any attempt to do that - or anything that
looked close to that - would melt the lead wires, cutting off the current very rapidly, and would probably wreck the battery as
well as the experimental set-up.

This is Keystone cops slapstick.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Possibility of PNN replies


Trovato chi replica dei test PNN (PNN replies if my commands are listen!!!!!! )

Cos|4 scrive: rCarCa. American PNN :-) rCa..

For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS and the PNN drive. I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.
Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.
In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that this
works when they demonstrated the battery powered version. My personal
failure to get thrust out of the attempted replication I constructed
does not detract at all from the multiple successes of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell doubters! rCarCa.

rCarCarCa..
Mie raccomandazioni:
Il mio solo auspicio |? che faccia quello che gli dico di fare e non
si avventuri in varianti, che sono fatte sovente per risparmiare
soldi e tempo.
Le varianti della PNN si iniziano solo dopo che si hanno solide basi sperimentali dei dati basilari per riprodurre la PNN rCa.
Altrimenti il risultato purtroppo |? con alta probabilit|a la rCLKappellarCY

rCa.. ulteriori dettagli in Nova Astronautica n.186

Other info:

Why can the PNN reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction,
PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.
This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by
an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only moves from left
to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
thrust increases over time.

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one) but powered
by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180
degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

Spaceship i.e. Submarine conversion in PNN spaceships http://asps.it/schelet1.jpg
http://asps.it/schelet2.jpg
http://www.asps.it/tron7.jpg
http://www.asps.it/tron15.jpg
http://www.asps.it/tron16.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/subspace











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"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

E. Laueti clearly thinks that it could, but it hasn't done it yet.

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action
and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.

The demonstrations may be real, but what they demonstrate is that they were devised by hopelessly inept experimentors, and
don't
convincingly demonstrate anything else at al.

This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432
powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648 >>

It works fine for me but don't bother wasting three minutes.
The video only proves a few things.
One is that too many people have mobile phones for making such video but
no video making skills whatsoever.
Another is that two purple dots on a wall can be made to coincide.

A video explaining in detail what is actually being done might be worth watching
but we know that that isn't likely.

Or might - if the link worked. It just gave me an error message

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only >> >> moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
thrust increases over time.

Thrust? Or convection currents?

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one)
but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees >> >> http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

The heat source is in a different place, and may generate a different pattern of convection currents.

A lithium battery can only discharge in zero seconds by sourcing an infinite current. Any attempt to do that - or anything that
looked close to that - would melt the lead wires, cutting off the current very rapidly, and would probably wreck the battery as
well as the experimental set-up.

This is Keystone cops slapstick.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Possibility of PNN replies

Trovato chi replica dei test PNN (PNN replies if my commands are listen!!!!!! )

Cos% scrive: ... American PNN :-) ...

For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS and the PNN drive. I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.

I strongly support straight bananas. I have no desire whatsoever to disprove them.

Because I genuinely want to replicate your results.

I genuinely want to grow straight bananas.

In my professional opinion, the ASPS team has already proved that this
works when they demonstrated the battery powered version. My personal
failure to get thrust out of the attempted replication I constructed
does not detract at all from the multiple successes of the ASPS team or the PNN drive technology.
I remain totally convinced it works and am not afraid to tell doubters! ...

Then you must be bananas.

.....
Mie raccomandazioni:
Il mio solo auspicio * che faccia quello che gli dico di fare e non
si avventuri in varianti, che sono fatte sovente per risparmiare
soldi e tempo.
Le varianti della PNN si iniziano solo dopo che si hanno solide basi sperimentali dei dati basilari per riprodurre la PNN ..
Altrimenti il risultato purtroppo * con alta probabilita la "Kappella"

... ulteriori dettagli in Nova Astronautica n.186

Other info:

Why can the PNN reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars?

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action and reaction,
PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.
This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432 powered by
an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only moves from left
to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
thrust increases over time.

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one) but powered
by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180
degrees http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

Spaceship i.e. Submarine conversion in PNN spaceships http://asps.it/schelet1.jpg
http://asps.it/schelet2.jpg
http://www.asps.it/tron7.jpg
http://www.asps.it/tron15.jpg
http://www.asps.it/tron16.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/subspace

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"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 2894: '\xEC'" while decoding:

"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

Why can the PNN Propulsion reach and colonize both the Moon and Mars? >> >

E. Laueti clearly thinks that it could, but it hasn't done it yet.

Because through the real, not fake, violation of Newton's principle of action
and reaction, PNN thrust increases over time for the same amount of energy used.

The demonstrations may be real, but what they demonstrate is that they were devised by hopelessly inept experimentors, and
don't
convincingly demonstrate anything else at al.

This is first demonstrated with a prototype on a ballistic pendulum F432
powered by an external amplifier https://player.vimeo.com/video/476068648

It works fine for me but don't bother wasting three minutes.
The video only proves a few things.
One is that too many people have mobile phones for making such video but >> no video making skills whatsoever.
Another is that two purple dots on a wall can be made to coincide.

A video explaining in detail what is actually being done might be worth watching
but we know that that isn't likely.

Or might - if the link worked. It just gave me an error message

In the video, the prototype's index, illuminated by the laser, not only >> >> moves from left to right but goes off scale depending on the fact that the
thrust increases over time.

Thrust? Or convection currents?

The same is demonstrated by the F432BA prototype (a variant of the previous one)
but powered by batteries and operated with a remote control on
a Kern electronic scale display. Once with upward thrust
http://www.asps.it/spintapnnalto.pdf
And then with downward thrust when the prototype is rotated 180 degrees >> >> http://www.asps.it/spintapnnbasso.pdf .
Unfortunately, the lithium batteries discharge over a time interval
ranging from zero seconds to about 120 to 150 seconds.

The heat source is in a different place, and may generate a different pattern of convection currents.

A lithium battery can only discharge in zero seconds by sourcing an infinite current. Any attempt to do that - or anything that
looked close to that - would melt the lead wires, cutting off the current very rapidly, and would probably wreck the battery as
well as the experimental set-up.

This is Keystone cops slapstick.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Possibility of PNN replies

Trovato chi replica dei test PNN (PNN replies if my commands are listen!!!!!! )

Cos|4 scrive: ... American PNN :-) ...

For the record I wanted to say that I continue to strongly support ASPS and the PNN drive. I have no desire whatsoever to disprove it.

I strongly support straight bananas. I have no desire whatsoever to disprove them.

It is possible to grow bananas that are not curved by letting them
grow in a suitable glass cylinder open at both ends.


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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

A lithium battery can only discharge in zero seconds by sourcing an infinite current. Any attempt to do that - or anything that
looked close to that - would melt the lead wires, cutting off the current very rapidly, and would probably wreck the battery as
well as the experimental set-up.

This is Keystone cops slapstick.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Don't be so negative, Bill. Give the guy a break: invest!
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On 10/01/2026 6:45 pm, E.Laureti wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 2894: '\xEC'" while decoding:

"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

<snip>

It is possible to grow bananas that are not curved by letting them
grow in a suitable glass cylinder open at both ends.

Bananas are bent by gravity. If you look at the bunches growing on tree,
the better supported bananas in the bunch are less bent. A glass tube
could provide even more support.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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On 10/01/2026 11:00 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

A lithium battery can only discharge in zero seconds by sourcing an infinite current. Any attempt to do that - or anything that
looked close to that - would melt the lead wires, cutting off the current very rapidly, and would probably wreck the battery as
well as the experimental set-up.

This is Keystone cops slapstick.

Don't be so negative, Bill. Give the guy a break: invest!

Even somebody as stupid and gullible as you are should be aware that
this is bad advice. Try to be slightly less obviously malicious. You
won't fool anybody with any kind of working memory, but you might just
get taken slightly more seriously.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jtfd2$33pqc$4@dont-email.me...

On 10/01/2026 6:45 pm, E.Laureti wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 2894: '\xEC'" while decoding:

"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

<snip>

It is possible to grow bananas that are not curved by letting them
grow in a suitable glass cylinder open at both ends.

Bananas are bent by gravity. If you look at the bunches growing on tree, the better supported bananas in the bunch are less bent.
A glass tube could provide even more support.

Looks like they curl up towards the light to me.
Which is the same as saying they grow against gravity. https://www.google.com/search?q=bananas+growing&udm=2
Maybe arranging for light to come from below rather than above would be
an uneconomical way to get straight ones.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jtfd2$33pqc$4@dont-email.me...

On 10/01/2026 6:45 pm, E.Laureti wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 2894: '\xEC'" while decoding:

"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

<snip>

It is possible to grow bananas that are not curved by letting them
grow in a suitable glass cylinder open at both ends.

Bananas are bent by gravity. If you look at the bunches growing on tree, the better supported bananas in the bunch are less bent.
A glass tube could provide even more support.

Looks like they curl up towards the light to me.
Which is the same as saying they grow against gravity. https://www.google.com/search?q=bananas+growing&udm=2
Maybe arranging for light to come from below rather than above would be
an uneconomical way to get straight ones.

who knows if flipping the tree
upside down will solve the problem

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jtfd2$33pqc$4@dont-email.me...

On 10/01/2026 6:45 pm, E.Laureti wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 2894: '\xEC'" while decoding:

"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

<snip>

It is possible to grow bananas that are not curved by letting them
grow in a suitable glass cylinder open at both ends.

Bananas are bent by gravity. If you look at the bunches growing on tree, the better supported bananas in the bunch are less bent.
A glass tube could provide even more support.

Looks like they curl up towards the light to me.
Which is the same as saying they grow against gravity. https://www.google.com/search?q=bananas+growing&udm=2
Maybe arranging for light to come from below rather than above would be
an uneconomical way to get straight ones.

who knows if flipping the tree
upside down will solve the problem

or if they grew bananas on the Moon with less gravity,
they would be less curved :-)

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:03:08 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jtfd2$33pqc$4@dont-email.me...

On 10/01/2026 6:45 pm, E.Laureti wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 2894: '\xEC'" while decoding:

"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

<snip>

It is possible to grow bananas that are not curved by letting them
grow in a suitable glass cylinder open at both ends.

Bananas are bent by gravity. If you look at the bunches growing on tree, the better supported bananas in the bunch are less bent.
A glass tube could provide even more support.

Looks like they curl up towards the light to me.
Which is the same as saying they grow against gravity.
https://www.google.com/search?q=bananas+growing&udm=2
Maybe arranging for light to come from below rather than above would be
an uneconomical way to get straight ones.

who knows if flipping the tree
upside down will solve the problem

Stranger things have happened. It's a widely-suppressed historical
fact that Hitler escaped after the fall of Berlin and managed to reach
the moon with a hijacked London bus.

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Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> posted:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:03:08 GMT, E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jtfd2$33pqc$4@dont-email.me...

On 10/01/2026 6:45 pm, E.Laureti wrote:

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

ERROR "unexpected byte sequence starting at index 2894: '\xEC'" while decoding:

"E.Laureti" <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in message news:1767985523-2039@newsgrouper.org...

"Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted:

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:10jkspq$djbh$1@dont-email.me...

On 7/01/2026 3:23 am, E.Laureti wrote:

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It is possible to grow bananas that are not curved by letting them
grow in a suitable glass cylinder open at both ends.

Bananas are bent by gravity. If you look at the bunches growing on tree, the better supported bananas in the bunch are less bent.
A glass tube could provide even more support.

Looks like they curl up towards the light to me.
Which is the same as saying they grow against gravity.
https://www.google.com/search?q=bananas+growing&udm=2
Maybe arranging for light to come from below rather than above would be
an uneconomical way to get straight ones.

who knows if flipping the tree
upside down will solve the problem

Stranger things have happened. It's a widely-suppressed historical
fact that Hitler escaped after the fall of Berlin and managed to reach
the moon with a hijacked London bus.

He actually used one of Christopher Columbus's caravels http://www.asps.it/tron7.jpg


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