We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donrCOt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality shows, cannot colonize anything.
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donAt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality >shows, cannot colonize anything.
On 01/01/2026 10:16, E.Laureti wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donrCOt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
How many kilograms of kit is needed to generate even 1 gram force of
thrust with your PNN contraption and how much energy is consumed?
I suspect that any apparent effect that you are seeing is due to not screening your equipment from the Earth's magnetic field properly.
Currents flowing in wires in a magnetic field do generate forces and
that is classical electromagnetism - used in electric motors.
Where does your "invention" sit on this diagram?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_impulse#/media/File:Specific-impulse-kk-20090105.png
My guess would be at the origin.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality shows, cannot colonize anything.
It is the least bad option so far.
Once you can get outside the Earth's atmosphere a few more options with
high efficiency but low thrust become viable. Ion drives for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_thruster
These are of course *real* viable physical inventions capable of
actually working in space rather than deranged fantasy pseudoscience.
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don-At lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality >shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
Where do I send money?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> posted:
On 01/01/2026 10:16, E.Laureti wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donrCOt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
How many kilograms of kit is needed to generate even 1 gram force of
thrust with your PNN contraption and how much energy is consumed?
I suspect that any apparent effect that you are seeing is due to not
screening your equipment from the Earth's magnetic field properly.
Currents flowing in wires in a magnetic field do generate forces and
that is classical electromagnetism - used in electric motors.
Where does your "invention" sit on this diagram?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_impulse#/media/File:Specific-impulse-kk-20090105.png
My guess would be at the origin.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
It is the least bad option so far.
Once you can get outside the Earth's atmosphere a few more options with
high efficiency but low thrust become viable. Ion drives for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_thruster
These are of course *real* viable physical inventions capable of
actually working in space rather than deranged fantasy pseudoscience.
can you understand the figure in ttps://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
I say NO !
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don-At lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality >shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality >> > >shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure >http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure >http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.LauretiIn a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality >>>>>> shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
puppets and yours can breathe.
On 2/01/2026 5:38 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.LauretiIn a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
puppets and yours can breathe.
In a flying car you could demonstrate your reactionless drive to a large audience, a lot more cheaply - submarines are heavier than cars.
And the people who want a to raise a lot of money to build a vehicle
that could outrun any debt collector are subject to the suspicion that
they don't intend to pay any dividends on the investment.
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
In a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
puppets and yours can breathe.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 2/01/2026 5:38 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.LauretiIn a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
puppets and yours can breathe.
In a flying car you could demonstrate your reactionless drive to a large
audience, a lot more cheaply - submarines are heavier than cars.
And the people who want a to raise a lot of money to build a vehicle
that could outrun any debt collector are subject to the suspicion that
they don't intend to pay any dividends on the investment.
The PNN is incredible
and Musk doesn't even want to see it. :-)
Our demonstration experiments have been ready for months.
Too bad for him, he keeps going with the comical litany of
spaceships that, in words, will go to Mars
but will fail like others have for more than half a century.
You don't learn anything even from the obvious failures
of missile science if you try to colonize something...
You need to end up like the Titanic.
But at least make the orchestra on your Titanic play a different tune :-)
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donrCOt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality shows, cannot colonize anything.
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:38:28 GMT, E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality >>>>>>> shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
In a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
puppets and yours can breathe.
I've noticed a syndrome among fanciful inventors, the desire to have
an isolated utopian colony. I was invited to live on New Island, a utopian-society concrete barge
in the Gulf of Mexico, but declined.
The inventor would of course be the grand leader of the settlement.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Am 02.01.26 um 17:18 schrieb john larkin:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:38:28 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
In a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
puppets and yours can breathe.
I've noticed a syndrome among fanciful inventors, the desire to have
an isolated utopian colony. I was invited to live on New Island, a
utopian-society concrete barge
in the Gulf of Mexico, but declined.
I heard it unexists?
The inventor would of course be the grand leader of the settlement.
But then again, that would fit DT.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 18:35:51 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:
Am 02.01.26 um 17:18 schrieb john larkin:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:38:28 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
In a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
puppets and yours can breathe.
I've noticed a syndrome among fanciful inventors, the desire to have
an isolated utopian colony. I was invited to live on New Island, a
utopian-society concrete barge
in the Gulf of Mexico, but declined.
I heard it unexists?
The inventor would of course be the grand leader of the settlement.
But then again, that would fit DT.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
It's fun, how DT has messed with so many people's heads.
People are in therapy over their Trump obsessions. Sounds expensive.
On 3/01/2026 4:41 am, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 18:35:51 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:
Am 02.01.26 um 17:18 schrieb john larkin:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:38:28 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that don?t lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
Torpedoes! Periscopes! Ah-ooga horns! Sounds like fun.
rotfl ....MISS : Make It Simple Stupid :-)
Where do I send money?
in www.asps.it .... paypal ...........and rotfl
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
fringe ? rotfl
All Jeremiah Popp test to disprove PNN
are not able to exit from the left area of this figure
http://asps.it/trustgra1.jpg
So he see nothing of PNN power that can reach Mars
in four days by an used submarine
http://asps.it/tron13.jpg
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
:-)
Why not start with flying cars?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
In a submarine in space I can breathe. In a car, only Musk's
puppets and yours can breathe.
I've noticed a syndrome among fanciful inventors, the desire to have
an isolated utopian colony. I was invited to live on New Island, a
utopian-society concrete barge
in the Gulf of Mexico, but declined.
I heard it unexists?
The inventor would of course be the grand leader of the settlement.
But then again, that would fit DT.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
It's fun, how DT has messed with so many people's heads.
It's not funny at all. Donald Trump is very skilled at concocting
nonsense that appeals to the gullible. Adolf Hitler was good at that too.
People are in therapy over their Trump obsessions. Sounds expensive.
Trump and his family have increased their net worth from $3.9 billion in 2924 to $7.3 billion today.
https://time.com/7342470/trump-net-worth-wealth-crypto/
That money has come from somewhere, so he's an expensive drain on the US economy as a whole, which also has been stuck with his extra tariffs -
which are taxes on the US economy.
If you weren't one of the gullible suckers, you'd probably be in therapy too.
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donrCOt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality shows, cannot colonize anything.
You may end up having to pay royalties to the Scottish science-fiction author Ken MacLeod - at least one of his novels had his space travelers skating around space-time in converted submarines. They did time travel
as well (if inadvertently).
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 4:41 am, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 18:35:51 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:
Am 02.01.26 um 17:18 schrieb john larkin:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:38:28 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
I am working with aliena thrusters in spheres
http://www.asps.it/tron12.jpg
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donrCOt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality
shows, cannot colonize anything.
You may end up having to pay royalties to the Scottish science-fiction
author Ken MacLeod - at least one of his novels had his space travelers
skating around space-time in converted submarines. They did time travel
as well (if inadvertently).
A trip around Mars in 8 days : 4 + 4 was 80 :-)
http://www.asps.it/tron15.jpg
go PNN go.
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
We have all the PNN technology to build a spaceship for Mars. We only lack the $24 million.
http://www.asps.it/tron14.jpg
The spheres contain the ALIENA PNN thrusters. Details in Nova Astronautica No. 186
These are the PNN thrust principles
https://propulsion-revolution.com/en/pitchdeck
which make it possible to build spaceships very cheaply (decommissioned submarines
can be used) that donrCOt lose parts like the ridiculous and failed rockets.
Believers in missiles
have been making promises for more than half a century that, as reality >>> shows, cannot colonize anything.
You may end up having to pay royalties to the Scottish science-fiction
author Ken MacLeod - at least one of his novels had his space travelers
skating around space-time in converted submarines. They did time travel
as well (if inadvertently).
A trip around Mars in 8 days : 4 + 4 was 80 :-)
http://www.asps.it/tron15.jpg
go PNN go.
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to
Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described
as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
On 3/01/2026 7:17 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 4:41 am, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 18:35:51 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:
Am 02.01.26 um 17:18 schrieb john larkin:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:38:28 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
I am working with aliena thrusters in spheres http://www.asps.it/tron12.jpg
A load of balls. For those for whom English isn't their first language,
this phrase is also used to describe stories that lack credibility.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:17 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 4:41 am, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 18:35:51 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>> wrote:
Am 02.01.26 um 17:18 schrieb john larkin:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:38:28 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 20:30:23 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
E.Laureti <user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> posted:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 10:16:18 GMT, E.Laureti
<user2039@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
I am working with aliena thrusters in spheres
http://www.asps.it/tron12.jpg
A load of balls. For those for whom English isn't their first language,
this phrase is also used to describe stories that lack credibility.
PNN goes
for the fact that has no credibility :-)
http://www.asps.it/tron5.jpg
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to
Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula
kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described
as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
Putin protesta
non |? pi|| il primo
a pulirsi il culo con la carta Onu :-)
On 4/01/2026 3:00 am, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to
Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula
kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described
as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
Putin protesta
non * pi* il primo
a pulirsi il culo con la carta Onu :-)
Putin protests
he's no longer the first
to wipe his ass with the UN Charter.
He wouldn't be so undiplomatic. Trump probably has more to fear from the
US Supreme Court. Kidnapping a country's president looks very like an
act of war, and you ought to get congressional approval to do that.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 06:56:45 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 4/01/2026 3:00 am, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to >>>> Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula
kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described >>>> as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
Putin protesta
non |? pi|| il primo
a pulirsi il culo con la carta Onu :-)
Putin protests
he's no longer the first
to wipe his ass with the UN Charter.
He wouldn't be so undiplomatic. Trump probably has more to fear from the
US Supreme Court. Kidnapping a country's president looks very like an
act of war, and you ought to get congressional approval to do that.
Yes, we should have had hearings and votes in both houses of Congress
before we sent in the marines to snatch Maduro.
On 4/01/2026 7:55 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 06:56:45 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 4/01/2026 3:00 am, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to >>>>> Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula >>>>> kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described >>>>> as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
Putin protesta
non * pi* il primo
a pulirsi il culo con la carta Onu :-)
Putin protests
he's no longer the first
to wipe his ass with the UN Charter.
He wouldn't be so undiplomatic. Trump probably has more to fear from the >>> US Supreme Court. Kidnapping a country's president looks very like an
act of war, and you ought to get congressional approval to do that.
Yes, we should have had hearings and votes in both houses of Congress
before we sent in the marines to snatch Maduro.
Actually Trump should have asked a few congressmen how the house would
react to such an act of childish bullying. Any sensible adult would have >given the same answer, but sensible adults don't flatter Donald Trump
with the enthusiasm he needs and expects, so he avoids them.
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 14:33:30 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 4/01/2026 7:55 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 06:56:45 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 4/01/2026 3:00 am, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to >>>>>> Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula >>>>>> kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described >>>>>> as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
Putin protesta
non |? pi|| il primo
a pulirsi il culo con la carta Onu :-)
Putin protests
he's no longer the first
to wipe his ass with the UN Charter.
He wouldn't be so undiplomatic. Trump probably has more to fear from the >>>> US Supreme Court. Kidnapping a country's president looks very like an
act of war, and you ought to get congressional approval to do that.
Yes, we should have had hearings and votes in both houses of Congress
before we sent in the marines to snatch Maduro.
Actually Trump should have asked a few congressmen how the house would
react to such an act of childish bullying. Any sensible adult would have
given the same answer, but sensible adults don't flatter Donald Trump
with the enthusiasm he needs and expects, so he avoids them.
If DT is successful in cutting off the cocaine and fentanyl imports in
to the US, the sellers will shift more to exporting to europe. That's happening already.
Given that about 100K americans die from drug overdoses a year, Maduro
is a mass murderer and we have a moral obligation to stop the drugs,
any way that works.
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 14:33:30 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 4/01/2026 7:55 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 06:56:45 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 4/01/2026 3:00 am, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to >>>>>>> Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula >>>>>>> kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described >>>>>>> as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
Putin protesta
non * pi* il primo
a pulirsi il culo con la carta Onu :-)
Putin protests
he's no longer the first
to wipe his ass with the UN Charter.
He wouldn't be so undiplomatic. Trump probably has more to fear from the >>>>> US Supreme Court. Kidnapping a country's president looks very like an >>>>> act of war, and you ought to get congressional approval to do that.
Yes, we should have had hearings and votes in both houses of Congress
before we sent in the marines to snatch Maduro.
Actually Trump should have asked a few congressmen how the house would
react to such an act of childish bullying. Any sensible adult would have >>> given the same answer, but sensible adults don't flatter Donald Trump
with the enthusiasm he needs and expects, so he avoids them.
If DT is successful in cutting off the cocaine and fentanyl imports in
to the US, the sellers will shift more to exporting to europe. That's
happening already.
Given that about 100K americans die from drug overdoses a year, Maduro
is a mass murderer and we have a moral obligation to stop the drugs,
any way that works.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Trump administration is busy instead importing ostriches with bird flu
Canada wants to euthanize them (bird flu positive) but Frick Kennedy and >Frack Oz omake America healthyo want to import them here.
IAm not even gonna comment on LETAS IMPORT BIRD FLU!
All IAm gonna say about this is, once government officials start keeping >ostriches on their property, itAs all just a fascistic downhill slide from >there.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 20:05:39 GMT, marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 14:33:30 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 4/01/2026 7:55 am, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 06:56:45 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:
On 4/01/2026 3:00 am, E.Laureti wrote:Yes, we should have had hearings and votes in both houses of Congress >>>>> before we sent in the marines to snatch Maduro.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 3/01/2026 7:56 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> posted:
On 1/01/2026 9:16 pm, E.Laureti wrote:
This is a promise rather than an achievement. Donald Trump promised to >>>>>>>> Make American Great Again. He's just had president Maduro of Venezula >>>>>>>> kidnapped with his wife, which isn't the sort of act usually described >>>>>>>> as great. It looks a lot more like criminal racketeering.
Putin protesta
non |? pi|| il primo
a pulirsi il culo con la carta Onu :-)
Putin protests
he's no longer the first
to wipe his ass with the UN Charter.
He wouldn't be so undiplomatic. Trump probably has more to fear from the >>>>>> US Supreme Court. Kidnapping a country's president looks very like an >>>>>> act of war, and you ought to get congressional approval to do that. >>>>>
Actually Trump should have asked a few congressmen how the house would >>>> react to such an act of childish bullying. Any sensible adult would have >>>> given the same answer, but sensible adults don't flatter Donald Trump
with the enthusiasm he needs and expects, so he avoids them.
If DT is successful in cutting off the cocaine and fentanyl imports in
to the US, the sellers will shift more to exporting to europe. That's
happening already.
Given that about 100K americans die from drug overdoses a year, Maduro
is a mass murderer and we have a moral obligation to stop the drugs,
any way that works.
Trump administration is busy instead importing ostriches with bird flu
Canada wants to euthanize them (bird flu positive) but Frick Kennedy and
Frack Oz rCLmake America healthyrCY want to import them here.
IrCOm not even gonna comment on LETrCOS IMPORT BIRD FLU!
All IrCOm gonna say about this is, once government officials start keeping >> ostriches on their property, itrCOs all just a fascistic downhill slide from >> there.
It only takes one spark to start a forest fire, and one virus to start
an epidemic.
There's no way to keep those isolated.
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