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I'm rock solid, but in my faith and certain knowledge of the
Resurrection. Not a big fan of religious folks. That's the group Jesus
most railed against. Told 'em they got it all wrong.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 2:50:30 +0000, Ken Jones wrote:
I'm rock solid, but in my faith and certain knowledge of theOne issue I have with modern Christianity is they seem to ignore the Old Testament. The God of the OT was quite a scary creature who killed a lot
Resurrection. Not a big fan of religious folks. That's the group Jesus
most railed against. Told 'em they got it all wrong.
of people and didn't seem to care one bit as to whether they had made
any decision to follow one belief or another (killing children, babies, etc.).
Jesus is supposed to be either that God's son or that God himself
(trinity or no). Either way, they tend to ignore the actions of the God
that their saviour is meant to represent.
"God is Love" seems a bit contradictory when you look at the OT God.
On 1/14/2025 9:53 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 2:50:30 +0000, Ken Jones wrote:RG, when a three-year-old reaches to a hot burner on the stove, you slap
I'm rock solid, but in my faith and certain knowledge of theOne issue I have with modern Christianity is they seem to ignore the Old
Resurrection. Not a big fan of religious folks. That's the group Jesus
most railed against. Told 'em they got it all wrong.
Testament. The God of the OT was quite a scary creature who killed a lot
of people and didn't seem to care one bit as to whether they had made
any decision to follow one belief or another (killing children, babies,
etc.).
Jesus is supposed to be either that God's son or that God himself
(trinity or no). Either way, they tend to ignore the actions of the God
that their saviour is meant to represent.
"God is Love" seems a bit contradictory when you look at the OT God.
hir hand. Not necessary to do that with seven-year-olds. As the child matures, sie learns how to behave through the tutelage of hard lessons.
You are a member of a (sometimes, somewhat) mature humanity, with more sensitive values, many of which were instilled by Jesus' teachings. The
OT is a faithful historical account of a different epoch with different values.
Mr. Darwin also makes a point that creatures evolve; societies evolve as well, wouldn't you say? I'd also make the point that God didn't give us
atom bombs and chemical weapons--we did that ourselves. Sometimes Daddy
God has to kick our butts Hiroshima style to get us to "surrender" in
the faith sense.
It's His world, and He has the right to eminent domain. Otherwise, He wouldn't be God.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 1:38:03 +0000, Ken Jones wrote:
On 1/14/2025 9:53 PM, Retro Guy wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 2:50:30 +0000, Ken Jones wrote:RG, when a three-year-old reaches to a hot burner on the stove, you slap
I'm rock solid, but in my faith and certain knowledge of theOne issue I have with modern Christianity is they seem to ignore the Old >>> Testament. The God of the OT was quite a scary creature who killed a lot >>> of people and didn't seem to care one bit as to whether they had made
Resurrection. Not a big fan of religious folks. That's the group Jesus >>>> most railed against. Told 'em they got it all wrong.
any decision to follow one belief or another (killing children, babies,
etc.).
Jesus is supposed to be either that God's son or that God himself
(trinity or no). Either way, they tend to ignore the actions of the God
that their saviour is meant to represent.
"God is Love" seems a bit contradictory when you look at the OT God.
hir hand. Not necessary to do that with seven-year-olds. As the child
matures, sie learns how to behave through the tutelage of hard lessons.
You are a member of a (sometimes, somewhat) mature humanity, with more
sensitive values, many of which were instilled by Jesus' teachings. The
OT is a faithful historical account of a different epoch with different
values.
I agree they were different times, but not so different that the didn't
have societies, families, loved ones, etc.
How does the killing of babies and children teach those babies and
children anything? I don't see that it does, it just erases them.
Mr. Darwin also makes a point that creatures evolve; societies evolve as
well, wouldn't you say? I'd also make the point that God didn't give us
atom bombs and chemical weapons--we did that ourselves. Sometimes Daddy
God has to kick our butts Hiroshima style to get us to "surrender" in
the faith sense.
WHo surrendurs? The survivors of the carnage? I would think if a
stronger power came and wiped out your town, city, family, all you have,
you might not be inclided to "want" to serve them, only to serve them
out of complete fear.
It's His world, and He has the right to eminent domain. Otherwise, He
wouldn't be God.
We are his toys? Why give us the ability to suffer, then cause us to
suffer, unless that's the goal.
I'm not sure I really any longer belive most of the OT as things that
really happened, but either way, for me it does not make God look like a
God of Love in any way. He creates Adam and Even, then allows the Devil
to test them, then finds them guilty, then causes all their descendents
to be carriers of "sin", for which the cost, or wages is death.
The Bible "proves" that carriers of sin can not live up to God's
standards, then he punishes them for not living up to God's standards.
Is it really our fault? Are we to blame?
Again, I don't claim to know it all. These are simply my current views
as an ex-Christian.