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On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 13:51:01 +0000
Retro Guy <
retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 13:13:49 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
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On 15.09.2024 um 12:28 Uhr Byrl Raze Buckbriar wrote:
I would like suggestions for setting up a moderated news group on
Rocksolid Light. The goal is a moderated group to which only
moderator approved messages will post and propagate.
Already exists and works as intended.
rslight won't add it to the group spool, but post it via NNTP.
The upstream NNTP server will send the message via email to the
moderation address.
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Marco is correct, that rslight supports moderated groups. But this
requires inn. I see in your question that you'd like to do this with
rslight only.
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Someone maybe last year was working on this, but he disappeared :) I
don't know if he ever finished it and reads here, maybe he has some code
for you.
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I can easily dump articles into a folder and NOT add them to the spool
when posted, but then the admin needs to read that folder and move the articles to '/outgoing/' to "post" them. This can be done with a script,
but no such script exists at this time.
As the simplest possible method this sound great.
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There exists a feature to NOT automatically add to spool already, but
wait for the article to return from the upstream server. Do you intend
to use any upstream server, or are you looking for fully self contained?
If I use a fully self-contained setup that does no upstream sync, where are=
the messages currently held in limbo?
For a self-contained peerless setup, simple movement of messages to a direc= tory would be great. For a Rocksolid-only network, with multiple peers, sig= ning the message then moving to sync queue would work, so that other Rockso= lid Peers with the same scheme would know to accept as if email moderation = had occurred, even without emailing to the moderator. I suppose it would be=
similar to the BBS Mail feature, with messages moving in an access-control= led group until they are signed or deleted.
The idea I was initially mulling is for any Rocksolid peer receiving a post=
to a moderated group to forward the message to the peer of the moderator w= ith the registered signing key(s), who would then have it in a moderation q= ueue. Or, for better fault tolerance, the message could propagate in the ne= wsgroup, or in a hidden group, and be hidden by default until the registere=
d moderator propagates a signature into the group, which would be read and = applied by other peers when they see it. The advantage of this is removing = the reliance on email entirely, omitting that potential point of failure fr=
om the mix.
As I understand it, Usenet moderation usually happens via email, rather tha=
n propagation, until the assigned moderator key signs the message. Is that = correct?
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This can all be done, but let's work out the specific requirements
first, so we don't rewrite it 12 times :)
Yes, please don't write any code at this time. I need to think this through=
to be sure I understand how it all works and also how it could work. I rea= lize that other NNTP servers would not recognize a propagate as hidden then=
wait for signature scheme. However could they propagate as hidden control = messages? Is there a way to do an inverse cancel hack on standard Usenet pr= otocol? These are the wrinkles I am trying to iron out in my mind with the = hope being that maybe there is a way to hack it with complete avoidance of = email. Because, well reasons: if DNS is down or blocked or blacklisted, ema=
il cannot work; and email is a point of censorship attack. But IP only woul=
d continue to operate between Rocksolid peers. And a Tor-only network would=
be more secure without the reliance on email.
Although, I haven't seen a way to post as the moderator with the
Approved: header that will make it distribute by NNTP to the group
itself.
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This does not exist. It's is fully depended on inn (or another capable
news server) to handle moderated groups.
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Retro Guy
I will need to think about this a bit before I chime back in.
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