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Somehow he is not helping his reputation.
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:

Somehow he is not helping his reputation.

Who are you talking about?

br,
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Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:

Somehow he is not helping his reputation.

Who are you talking about?

Ah, you meant retiring the *match*, not complete
retirement. I now see you were referring to Sinner.

He was ill and could not play. Do you seriously
think Alcaraz and others are clean? Hahah!

br,
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kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r

Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>> Some

Cheating starts from the personality, either you have it or not.
Now I know that Sinner isn't the guy I thought he was. We will
see many incidents during his career that will show his real self
not the fake one.
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:

kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r

Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>> Some

Cheating starts from the personality, either you have it or not.
Now I know that Sinner isn't the guy I thought he was. We will
see many incidents during his career that will show his real self
not the fake one.

Sinner is exactly like all the other top tennis players out there.
None of them is clean and that is all right. We as spectators should
be happy because we get to enjoy better entertainment because of
advanced doping.

br,
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in mess

Right now it's only Sinner that was found positive.
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was found positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're all doing it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for attacking him.

It's strangely subsided, the whole story/scandal.
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r>
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>
kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now
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But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans
and especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're
all doing it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for
attacking him.

It's strangely subsided, the whole story/scandal.

It's just a further illustration of the decay of society into
corruption and lawlessness. The corruption is just happening out
in the open now, no consequences...
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On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was found positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're all doing it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for attacking him.

Do you think that they care about public hypocrisy?

It's strangely subsided, the whole story/scandal.

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Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was found positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > > > But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're all doing it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for attacking him.Do you think that they care about public hypocrisy?> > It's strangely subsided, the whole story/scandal.> > >

I remember your theory about new generations not caring much about being called out as hypocrites whereas in your generation you said it was a big "touche".


Well, then, if that is so, they don't call out Sinner because they don't want to be seen as people who would say things that would be damaging to anyone's mental health or wellbeing?

;)



So generally I think it's same or very similar, the prevailing silence and the reasons behind it.

You have the feeling that going against him would be seen as socially bad taste, judged negatively?
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On 22/08/2025 8:21 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r>
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi
(Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was
found positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://
piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and
especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're all doing
it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for attacking him.

Do you think that they care about public hypocrisy?

Bottom line is tennis fans want to see the greatest players of all time,
it's purely selfish reasons, plus the likelihood it's such a small dose
not really performance enhancing anyway. Lower ranked players no one
cares about, they need to be more careful as they are expendable.
That's just the way the world works, anyone who doesn't understand this
can't be too bright imo.


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On 22/08/2025 3:35 pm, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was found positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > > > But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're all doing it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for attacking him.Do you think that they care about public hypocrisy?> > It's strangely subsided, the whole story/scandal.> > >

I remember your theory about new generations not caring much about being called out as hypocrites whereas in your generation you said it was a big "touche".

Well, then, if that is so, they don't call out Sinner because they don't want to be seen as people who would say things that would be damaging to anyone's mental health or wellbeing?

;)

So generally I think it's same or very similar, the prevailing silence and the reasons behind it.

You have the feeling that going against him would be seen as socially bad taste, judged negatively?

Yes that's part of it. He's been seen as already punished so it borders
on mental cruelty to keep punishing him forever. It's all int the past
and we move on. Plus it would be overkill to kick someone with that
kind of talent out of the game. I'm all for kicking guys like Kyrgios
out immediately : )
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Whisper kirjoitti 22.8.2025 klo 11.37:

On 22/08/2025 8:21 am, Sawfish wrote:

On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:

PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r>
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi
(Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was
found positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://
piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and
especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're all doing
it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for attacking him.

Do you think that they care about public hypocrisy?

Bottom line is tennis fans want to see the greatest players of all time, it's purely selfish reasons, plus the likelihood it's such a small dose
not really performance enhancing anyway.

Yeah, guy reaches Murray/Djokovic fitness level overnight. Not
performance enhancing for sure. Maybe he's just on gluten free diet?




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On 8/21/25 10:35 PM, *skriptis wrote:

Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was found positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > > > But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or they're all doing it as well and don't want to be hypocrites for attacking him.Do you think that they care about public hypocrisy?> > It's strangely subsided, the whole story/scandal.> > >

I remember your theory about new generations not caring much about being called out as hypocrites whereas in your generation you said it was a big "touche".

Well, then, if that is so, they don't call out Sinner because they don't want to be seen as people who would say things that would be damaging to anyone's mental health or wellbeing?

;)

So generally I think it's same or very similar, the prevailing silence and the reasons behind it.

You have the feeling that going against him would be seen as socially bad taste, judged negatively?

Hah!
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:> PeteWasLucky
<waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>
kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r>
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:>
kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now
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But the way he's being treated nicely by everyone, press,

fans and especially rivals tells me he's either innocent or
they're all doing it as well and don't want to be hypocrites
for attacking him.Do you think that they care about public
hypocrisy?> > It's strangely subsided, the whole
story/scandal.> > >

I remember your theory about new generations not caring much
about being called out as hypocrites whereas in your generation
you said it was a big "touche".

Hypocrisy is a universal constant. The problem is the lack of
shame.
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On 8/22/25 10:35 AM, jdeluise wrote:

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

On 8/21/25 10:33 AM, *skriptis wrote:> PeteWasLucky
<waleed.khedr@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> kalevi@kolttonen.fi
(Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:r> PeteWasLucky
<waleed.khedr@gmail.com> wrote:> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi
Kolttonen) Wrote in messRight now it's only Sinner that was found
positive.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-
west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > > > But the way he's being
treated nicely by everyone, press, fans and especially rivals tells
me he's either innocent or they're all doing it as well and don't
want to be hypocrites for attacking him.Do you think that they care
about public hypocrisy?> > It's strangely subsided, the whole story/
scandal.> > >

I remember your theory about new generations not caring much about
being called out as hypocrites whereas in your generation you said it
was a big "touche".

Hypocrisy is a universal constant.-a The problem is the lack of shame.

Well, yes...

Hypocrisy, like cannibalism and incest, is fine if no one else cares.
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