Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's former ceremonial head of state and
a
lifelong supporter of the ruling dynasty, has died aged 97,
according
to state media.
He held the role of president of Pyongyang's rubber-stamp
Supreme
People's Assembly from 1998 to 2019.
Kim Yong Nam served in various diplomatic roles under the
regimes of
the country's founder Kim Il Sung, his son Kim Jong Il, and his
grandson Kim Jong Un - though was not related to the family.
Starting out as a low-ranking official in the ruling party, he
rose to
become foreign minister and then served as chairman of the
Supreme
People's Assembly for nearly all of Kim Jong Il's reign.
Even as real power remained in the hands of the ruling Kim
family, Kim
Yong Nam was often seen as the face of North Korea on the
international stage.
Former North Korean diplomat Thae Yong Ho, who has since
resettled in
the South, told the BBC that Kim Yong Nam never uttered a word
that
was regarded as problematic by the regime.
"[He] never made his own opinions known... He had no close
[allies] or
enemies. He never showed any creativity. He never put out a new
policy. He only repeated what the Kim family have said before,"
said
Thae, who was most recently the leader of South Korea's
presidential
advisory council on unification.
"Kim Yong Nam is the perfect role model of how to survive for a
long
time in North Korea," Thae said, adding that he avoided
criticism from
within the party by maintain a "clean" reputation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze68e2zwjjo.amp
I believe this is how "Vance" rose to be VP.
Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> writes:
Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's former ceremonial head of state and a
lifelong supporter of the ruling dynasty, has died aged 97, according
to state media.
He held the role of president of Pyongyang's rubber-stamp Supreme
People's Assembly from 1998 to 2019.
Kim Yong Nam served in various diplomatic roles under the regimes of
the country's founder Kim Il Sung, his son Kim Jong Il, and his
grandson Kim Jong Un - though was not related to the family.
Starting out as a low-ranking official in the ruling party, he rose to
become foreign minister and then served as chairman of the Supreme
People's Assembly for nearly all of Kim Jong Il's reign.
Even as real power remained in the hands of the ruling Kim family, Kim
Yong Nam was often seen as the face of North Korea on the
international stage.
Former North Korean diplomat Thae Yong Ho, who has since resettled in
the South, told the BBC that Kim Yong Nam never uttered a word that
was regarded as problematic by the regime.
"[He] never made his own opinions known... He had no close [allies] or
enemies. He never showed any creativity. He never put out a new
policy. He only repeated what the Kim family have said before," said
Thae, who was most recently the leader of South Korea's presidential
advisory council on unification.
"Kim Yong Nam is the perfect role model of how to survive for a long
time in North Korea," Thae said, adding that he avoided criticism from
within the party by maintain a "clean" reputation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze68e2zwjjo.amp
I believe this is how "Vance" rose to be VP.
The faux hillbilly is no "gray man" though.-a He's a shapeshifter and habitual liar with the gift of shamelessness.-a Kind of a more marketable George Santos.-a I don't think MAGA particularly trusts him though, his private life smells "woke" to them and they know what he used to say
about Trump.
On 11/4/25 7:09 AM, jdeluise wrote:
Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> writes:
Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's former ceremonial head of stateThe faux hillbilly is no "gray man" though.-a He's a
and a
lifelong supporter of the ruling dynasty, has died aged 97,
according
to state media.
He held the role of president of Pyongyang's rubber-stamp
Supreme
People's Assembly from 1998 to 2019.
Kim Yong Nam served in various diplomatic roles under the
regimes of
the country's founder Kim Il Sung, his son Kim Jong Il, and
his
grandson Kim Jong Un - though was not related to the family.
Starting out as a low-ranking official in the ruling party, he
rose to
become foreign minister and then served as chairman of the
Supreme
People's Assembly for nearly all of Kim Jong Il's reign.
Even as real power remained in the hands of the ruling Kim
family, Kim
Yong Nam was often seen as the face of North Korea on the
international stage.
Former North Korean diplomat Thae Yong Ho, who has since
resettled in
the South, told the BBC that Kim Yong Nam never uttered a word
that
was regarded as problematic by the regime.
"[He] never made his own opinions known... He had no close
[allies] or
enemies. He never showed any creativity. He never put out a
new
policy. He only repeated what the Kim family have said
before," said
Thae, who was most recently the leader of South Korea's
presidential
advisory council on unification.
"Kim Yong Nam is the perfect role model of how to survive for
a long
time in North Korea," Thae said, adding that he avoided
criticism from
within the party by maintain a "clean" reputation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze68e2zwjjo.amp
I believe this is how "Vance" rose to be VP.
shapeshifter and
habitual liar with the gift of shamelessness.-a Kind of a more
marketable George Santos.-a I don't think MAGA particularly
trusts
him though, his private life smells "woke" to them and they
know
what he used to say about Trump.
Speaking n public, Vance reminds me of Eddie Haskell.
On 11/4/25 7:09 AM, jdeluise wrote:
Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> writes:
Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's former ceremonial head of stateThe faux hillbilly is no "gray man" though.-a He's a
and a
lifelong supporter of the ruling dynasty, has died aged 97,
according
to state media.
He held the role of president of Pyongyang's rubber-stamp
Supreme
People's Assembly from 1998 to 2019.
Kim Yong Nam served in various diplomatic roles under the
regimes of
the country's founder Kim Il Sung, his son Kim Jong Il, and
his
grandson Kim Jong Un - though was not related to the family.
Starting out as a low-ranking official in the ruling party, he
rose to
become foreign minister and then served as chairman of the
Supreme
People's Assembly for nearly all of Kim Jong Il's reign.
Even as real power remained in the hands of the ruling Kim
family, Kim
Yong Nam was often seen as the face of North Korea on the
international stage.
Former North Korean diplomat Thae Yong Ho, who has since
resettled in
the South, told the BBC that Kim Yong Nam never uttered a word
that
was regarded as problematic by the regime.
"[He] never made his own opinions known... He had no close
[allies] or
enemies. He never showed any creativity. He never put out a
new
policy. He only repeated what the Kim family have said
before," said
Thae, who was most recently the leader of South Korea's
presidential
advisory council on unification.
"Kim Yong Nam is the perfect role model of how to survive for
a long
time in North Korea," Thae said, adding that he avoided
criticism from
within the party by maintain a "clean" reputation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze68e2zwjjo.amp
I believe this is how "Vance" rose to be VP.
shapeshifter and
habitual liar with the gift of shamelessness.-a Kind of a more
marketable George Santos.-a I don't think MAGA particularly
trusts
him though, his private life smells "woke" to them and they
know
what he used to say about Trump.
Speaking n public, Vance reminds me of Eddie Haskell.
I don't know, Eddie Haskell's public face (around Beav's parents)
was overly earnest, obsequious and formal. But it's been a long
time since I've seen the show. I'd say Vance is less formal,
often very dismissive and condescending or patronizing, more so
lately perhaps.
In article <87jz04q0rm.fsf@gmail.com>, jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote: >>Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 11/4/25 7:09 AM, jdeluise wrote:
Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> writes:
Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's former ceremonial head of stateThe faux hillbilly is no "gray man" though.-a He's a
and a
lifelong supporter of the ruling dynasty, has died aged 97,
according
to state media.
He held the role of president of Pyongyang's rubber-stamp
Supreme
People's Assembly from 1998 to 2019.
Kim Yong Nam served in various diplomatic roles under the
regimes of
the country's founder Kim Il Sung, his son Kim Jong Il, and
his
grandson Kim Jong Un - though was not related to the family.
Starting out as a low-ranking official in the ruling party, he
rose to
become foreign minister and then served as chairman of the
Supreme
People's Assembly for nearly all of Kim Jong Il's reign.
Even as real power remained in the hands of the ruling Kim
family, Kim
Yong Nam was often seen as the face of North Korea on the
international stage.
Former North Korean diplomat Thae Yong Ho, who has since
resettled in
the South, told the BBC that Kim Yong Nam never uttered a word
that
was regarded as problematic by the regime.
"[He] never made his own opinions known... He had no close
[allies] or
enemies. He never showed any creativity. He never put out a
new
policy. He only repeated what the Kim family have said
before," said
Thae, who was most recently the leader of South Korea's
presidential
advisory council on unification.
"Kim Yong Nam is the perfect role model of how to survive for
a long
time in North Korea," Thae said, adding that he avoided
criticism from
within the party by maintain a "clean" reputation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze68e2zwjjo.amp
I believe this is how "Vance" rose to be VP.
shapeshifter and
habitual liar with the gift of shamelessness.-a Kind of a more
marketable George Santos.-a I don't think MAGA particularly
trusts
him though, his private life smells "woke" to them and they
know
what he used to say about Trump.
Speaking n public, Vance reminds me of Eddie Haskell.
I don't know, Eddie Haskell's public face (around Beav's parents)
was overly earnest, obsequious and formal. But it's been a long
time since I've seen the show. I'd say Vance is less formal,
often very dismissive and condescending or patronizing, more so
lately perhaps.
Yeah. For a more apt comparison, then, maybe we need a fictional character who was a slimedog publicly and who knows what behind the scenes.
Interesting election day yesterday.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 11/4/25 7:09 AM, jdeluise wrote:
Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> writes:
Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's former ceremonial head of state and aThe faux hillbilly is no "gray man" though.-a He's a shapeshifter and
lifelong supporter of the ruling dynasty, has died aged 97, according
to state media.
He held the role of president of Pyongyang's rubber-stamp Supreme
People's Assembly from 1998 to 2019.
Kim Yong Nam served in various diplomatic roles under the regimes of
the country's founder Kim Il Sung, his son Kim Jong Il, and his
grandson Kim Jong Un - though was not related to the family.
Starting out as a low-ranking official in the ruling party, he rose to >>>> become foreign minister and then served as chairman of the Supreme
People's Assembly for nearly all of Kim Jong Il's reign.
Even as real power remained in the hands of the ruling Kim family, Kim >>>> Yong Nam was often seen as the face of North Korea on the
international stage.
Former North Korean diplomat Thae Yong Ho, who has since resettled in
the South, told the BBC that Kim Yong Nam never uttered a word that
was regarded as problematic by the regime.
"[He] never made his own opinions known... He had no close [allies] or >>>> enemies. He never showed any creativity. He never put out a new
policy. He only repeated what the Kim family have said before," said
Thae, who was most recently the leader of South Korea's presidential
advisory council on unification.
"Kim Yong Nam is the perfect role model of how to survive for a long
time in North Korea," Thae said, adding that he avoided criticism from >>>> within the party by maintain a "clean" reputation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze68e2zwjjo.amp
I believe this is how "Vance" rose to be VP.
habitual liar with the gift of shamelessness.-a Kind of a more
marketable George Santos.-a I don't think MAGA particularly trusts
him though, his private life smells "woke" to them and they know
what he used to say about Trump.
Speaking n public, Vance reminds me of Eddie Haskell.
I don't know, Eddie Haskell's public face (around Beav's parents) was
overly earnest, obsequious and formal.
I've seen the show.-a I'd say Vance is less formal, often very dismissive and condescending or patronizing, more so lately perhaps.
I would propose that Vance perceives that his following wants to
hear
that sort of tone.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
I would propose that Vance perceives that his following wants to hear
that sort of tone.
I see.-a Are there any politicians that *don't* sound like Eddie Haskell then? ;)
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