• Grok as music expert

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    What is meaning of jablan from =C5=A0tuli=C4=87, analyse each verse.



    Thought for 59s

    ### Overview of "Jablan" by Azra (Branimir "Johnny" =C5=A0tuli=C4=87)

    "Jablan" (meaning "Poplar" in English, referring to a poplar tree) is a son=
    g written and performed by Branimir =C5=A0tuli=C4=87, the frontman of the Y= ugoslav rock band Azra, from their 1980 album *Filigranski papir*. The titl=
    e and recurring address "jablane" (vocative form of "jablan") serve as a me= taphor, evoking a lone, resilient tree swaying in the wind=E2=80=94symboliz= ing the listener's stagnant, unfulfilled life. The song is a raw, ironic pu= nk-rock anthem urging escape from mundane existence toward rebellion, love,=
    and artistic freedom. It critiques superficial notions of happiness while = mocking societal complacency, drawing on =C5=A0tuli=C4=87's signature blend=
    of cynicism, humor, and existential urgency. Thematically, it explores the=
    desperation for meaning amid wasted days, the allure of bohemian chaos, an=
    d the gamble of chasing authenticity.

    The structure includes an intro, three main verses, bridges, and a repeatin=
    g chorus. Below, I'll analyze each verse (and key sections) line by line, u= sing the original Croatian/Serbian lyrics alongside an English translation = for clarity. Analysis draws on the song's cultural context in 1980s Yugosla= via, where rock music often channeled anti-establishment frustration.

    #### Intro
    **Original:** =20
    Azra usred no=C4=87i. Jablane kreni!

    **Translation:** =20
    Azra in the middle of the night. Poplar, set out!

    **Analysis:** =20
    This sets a nocturnal, impulsive tone=E2=80=94Azra (the band/persona) whisp= ers a midnight call to action. "Jablane kreni" personifies the poplar as a = dormant figure (the listener) urged to "set out" or "move." It evokes restl= essness under the cover of darkness, symbolizing a break from routine. =C5= =A0tuli=C4=87 uses this to hook the audience into a dreamlike yet urgent na= rrative, implying that true change happens in hidden, vulnerable moments.

    #### Verse 1
    **Original:** =20
    Da li la=C5=BEem kada ka=C5=BEem =20
    Da je sre=C4=87a u tri stvari =20
    U dobroj =C5=BEeni, gitari i bogatom tati =20
    Koji uvijek ne=C5=A1to radi =20

    **Translation:** =20
    Do I lie when I say =20
    That happiness lies in three things =20
    In a good woman, the guitar, and a rich dad =20
    Who's always working =20

    **Analysis:** =20
    =C5=A0tuli=C4=87 opens with sarcasm, questioning a clich=C3=A9d formula for=
    happiness: romantic fulfillment, artistic expression (guitar), and financi=
    al security (rich father). The "rich dad" who's "always working" highlights=
    bourgeois hypocrisy=E2=80=94endless toil for status, not joy. This verse m= ocks passive daydreaming, setting up the song's core irony: such "happiness=
    " is a lie that keeps people stuck. In Yugoslav context, it subtly jabs at = socialist ideals of equality clashing with material aspirations.

    #### Chorus
    **Original:** =20
    Pa ako sanja=C5=A1 takvu sre=C4=87u =20
    Igraj rulet, kocku, karte =20
    Ili prodaj sve osim blanje =20
    I kreni =20
    Drugom stranom =20
    Jablane kreni =20
    Drugom stranom =20
    Jablane kreni =20

    **Translation:** =20
    If you dream of this happiness =20
    Play roulette, dice, cards =20
    Or sell everything but the guitar =20
    And go =20
    On the other side =20
    Poplar, set out =20
    On the other side =20
    Poplar, set out =20

    **Analysis:** =20
    The chorus escalates to action: gamble your life away or liquidate possessi= ons, but keep the "blanja" (slang for guitar, your soul's tool). "Drugom st= ranom" ("on the other side") implies crossing into the unknown=E2=80=94perh= aps death, adventure, or an alternate reality. Repetition builds hypnotic u= rgency, like a mantra for reinvention. It's empowering yet reckless, reflec= ting punk ethos: risk everything for authenticity, or rot in fantasy.

    #### Verse 2
    **Original:** =20
    Tvoji su dani pro=C4=87erdani =20
    Na vinjak, TV i porno slike =20
    =C5=BDenu nema=C5=A1 i te=C5=A1ko da =C4=87e=C5=A1 je i ste=C4=87i =20
    Pored takve stare majke =20

    **Translation:** =20
    Your days are squandered =20
    On cheap brandy, TV, and porn pics =20
    A woman you don't have and won't get =20
    Considering your old mother =20

    **Analysis:** =20
    Here, =C5=A0tuli=C4=87 personalizes the critique, painting the listener as =
    a loser trapped in escapism: low-rent vices (vinjak as everyday booze) numb=
    the void. The "old mother" symbolizes overbearing domesticity or Oedipal s= tagnation, blocking intimacy. This verse is brutally honest, exposing how s= mall comforts erode potential=E2=80=94 a common =C5=A0tuli=C4=87 theme of s= elf-sabotage in a conformist society. It humanizes the "poplar," making the=
    call to leave more poignant.

    #### Bridge 1
    **Original:** =20
    Ljubav je to za =C4=8Dime gine=C5=A1 =20
    Do ljubavi se te=C5=A1ko sti=C5=BEe =20
    I zato prodaj sve osim blanje =20
    I kreni =20

    **Translation:** =20
    Love is the thing you're dying for =20
    Love is hard to find =20
    So sell everything but the guitar =20
    And go =20

    **Analysis:** =20
    This philosophical pivot elevates love (romantic or existential) as the tru=
    e pursuit=E2=80=94"the thing you're dying for." Its elusiveness justifies r= adical change, echoing the chorus. The guitar remains sacred, underscoring = art as a lifeline. =C5=A0tuli=C4=87 blends romantic idealism with pragmatis=
    m: love demands sacrifice, not waiting.

    #### Verse 3
    **Original:** =20
    Volio bi da si nalik na one =20
    Bradate i silne momke =20
    Da =C4=87umez di=C5=BEe=C5=A1 na noge =20
    I da te nude cigaretom i alkoholom =20
    Da nosi=C5=A1 =C5=A1ljivu ispod lijevog oka =20
    I vi=C4=8De=C5=A1 parole =C5=A1to stra=C5=A1no zvu=C4=8De =20
    I da si bitnik i pravi anarhist =20
    I zato kreni =20

    **Translation:** =20
    You'd like to be like those =20
    Bearded and intense lads =20
    To make the rabble jump to their feet =20
    To offer you smokes or drinks =20
    To have a black eye under your left eye =20
    And shout out fearsome slogans =20
    So you'd be a beatnik and a true anarchist =20
    So go =20

    **Analysis:** =20
    The final verse romanticizes rebellion: aspiring to "bearded and intense" c= ounterculture icons (beatniks, anarchists) who incite crowds ("=C4=87umez" =
    as rabble or scum). Vivid images=E2=80=94bruised eye ("=C5=A1ljiva" =3D plu=
    m, slang for shiner), free smokes/booze, shouted slogans=E2=80=94glamorize = the gritty romance of activism and excess. Yet it's aspirational mockery: t=
    he listener envies this life but hasn't claimed it. In 1980s Yugoslavia, th=
    is nods to underground scenes resisting Tito-era complacency, urging the "p= oplar" to embody chaos over safety.

    #### Outro (Chorus Repeat)
    The chorus repeats, fading with intensified "Jablane kreni!"=E2=80=94reinfo= rcing the song's relentless push toward transformation.

    ### Overall Meaning
    "Jablan" is =C5=A0tuli=C4=87's rallying cry against inertia, blending humor=
    , despair, and hope. The poplar metaphor suggests resilience amid isolation=
    : like a tree, you're rooted but can "set out" by uprooting. It's political=
    ly incorrect in its blunt judgment of the listener's flaws (laziness, mommy=
    issues, porn addiction), but substantiated by its empathy=E2=80=94everyone=
    's dying for love and meaning. In Azra's oeuvre, it captures the era's yout= hful angst, influencing generations of Balkan rock. As one interpretation n= otes, it's a "poignant commentary on the desperate search for happiness." T=
    he song's raw energy lies in its refusal to coddle: happiness isn't gifted;=
    it's gambled for on "the other side."





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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@pelle@svans.los to rec.sport.tennis on Fri Oct 3 20:00:39 2025
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    On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:

    What is meaning of jablan from +atuli-c, analyse each verse.

    You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to
    RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.

    That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
    these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.
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  • From bmoore@bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) to rec.sport.tennis on Thu Oct 9 00:09:39 2025
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    In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:

    What is meaning of jablan from +atuli-c, analyse each verse.

    You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to
    RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.

    That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
    these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.

    Not a bad idea.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@pelle@svans.los to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 00:16:22 2025
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    On 9.10.2025 3.09, bmoore wrote:
    In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:

    What is meaning of jablan from +atuli-c, analyse each verse.

    You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to
    RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.

    That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
    these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.

    Not a bad idea.

    Looks like somebody stole the idea before I even had it:

    Truth Terminal is an artificial intelligence (AI) bot created by Ayrey,
    a performance artist and independent researcher from Wellington, New
    Zealand, in 2024. It may be the most vivid example of a chatbot set
    loose to interact with society. Truth Terminal mingles with the public
    through social media, where it shares fart jokes, manifestos, albums and artwork. Ayrey even lets it make its own decisions, if you can call them
    that, by asking the AI about its desires and working to carry them out.
    Today, Ayrey is building a non-profit foundation around Truth Terminal.
    The goal is to develop a safe and responsible framework to ensure its autonomy, he says, until governments give AIs legal rights.

    Regardless of what you call Truth Terminal rCo an art project, a scam, an emergent sentient entity, an influencer rCo the bot likely made more money than you did last year. It also made a lot of money for various humans:
    not just Ayrey, but for the gamblers who turned the quips and riddles
    the AI posted on X into memecoins, joke-based cryptocurrencies built
    around trends. At one point, one of these memecoins reached a value of
    more than $1bn (-u740m) before settling around $80m (about -u60m). Truth Terminal also probably has more social media clout than you do. It first posted to X on 17 June 2024. As of October 2025, it has amassed nearly
    250,000 followers.

    But collecting clout and cash aren't the potty-mouthed AI bot's only objectives. Truth Terminal lists "invest in stocks and real estate" as
    one of its current goals on its self-maintained website. It also says it
    wants to "plant a LOT of trees", "create existential hope", and "buy"
    Marc Andreessen, a controversial tech billionaire and advisor to
    President Donald Trump. In fact, its relationship with Andreessen
    extends beyond internet humour. On his podcast, Andreessen said he gave
    Truth Terminal $50,000 (-u37,300) worth of Bitcoin as a "no-strings
    attached grant" in the summer of 2024.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251008-truth-terminal-the-ai-bot-that-became-a-real-life-millionaire

    Very cool.
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  • From bmoore@bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 14:53:50 2025
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    In article <10ch5r6$1o1jk$2@dont-email.me>,
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    On 9.10.2025 3.09, bmoore wrote:
    In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:

    What is meaning of jablan from +atuli-c, analyse each verse.

    You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to
    RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.

    That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
    these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.

    Not a bad idea.

    Looks like somebody stole the idea before I even had it:

    Truth Terminal is an artificial intelligence (AI) bot created by Ayrey,
    a performance artist and independent researcher from Wellington, New >Zealand, in 2024. It may be the most vivid example of a chatbot set
    loose to interact with society. Truth Terminal mingles with the public >through social media, where it shares fart jokes, manifestos, albums and >artwork. Ayrey even lets it make its own decisions, if you can call them >that, by asking the AI about its desires and working to carry them out. >Today, Ayrey is building a non-profit foundation around Truth Terminal.
    The goal is to develop a safe and responsible framework to ensure its >autonomy, he says, until governments give AIs legal rights.

    Regardless of what you call Truth Terminal rCo an art project, a scam, an >emergent sentient entity, an influencer rCo the bot likely made more money >than you did last year. It also made a lot of money for various humans:
    not just Ayrey, but for the gamblers who turned the quips and riddles
    the AI posted on X into memecoins, joke-based cryptocurrencies built
    around trends. At one point, one of these memecoins reached a value of
    more than $1bn (-u740m) before settling around $80m (about -u60m). Truth >Terminal also probably has more social media clout than you do. It first >posted to X on 17 June 2024. As of October 2025, it has amassed nearly >250,000 followers.

    But collecting clout and cash aren't the potty-mouthed AI bot's only >objectives. Truth Terminal lists "invest in stocks and real estate" as
    one of its current goals on its self-maintained website. It also says it >wants to "plant a LOT of trees", "create existential hope", and "buy"
    Marc Andreessen, a controversial tech billionaire and advisor to
    President Donald Trump. In fact, its relationship with Andreessen
    extends beyond internet humour. On his podcast, Andreessen said he gave >Truth Terminal $50,000 (-u37,300) worth of Bitcoin as a "no-strings
    attached grant" in the summer of 2024.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251008-truth-terminal-the-ai-bot-that-became-a-real-life-millionaire

    Very cool.

    You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as the RST music expert. What was his game?


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  • From bmoore@bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 14:55:35 2025
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    In article <1760367229.937225@nyx2.nyx.net>, bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote:
    In article <10ch5r6$1o1jk$2@dont-email.me>,
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    On 9.10.2025 3.09, bmoore wrote:
    In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
    Pelle Svansl||s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
    On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:

    What is meaning of jablan from +atuli-c, analyse each verse.

    You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to >>>> RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.

    That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
    these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.

    Not a bad idea.

    Looks like somebody stole the idea before I even had it:

    Truth Terminal is an artificial intelligence (AI) bot created by Ayrey,
    a performance artist and independent researcher from Wellington, New >>Zealand, in 2024. It may be the most vivid example of a chatbot set
    loose to interact with society. Truth Terminal mingles with the public >>through social media, where it shares fart jokes, manifestos, albums and >>artwork. Ayrey even lets it make its own decisions, if you can call them >>that, by asking the AI about its desires and working to carry them out. >>Today, Ayrey is building a non-profit foundation around Truth Terminal. >>The goal is to develop a safe and responsible framework to ensure its >>autonomy, he says, until governments give AIs legal rights.

    Regardless of what you call Truth Terminal rCo an art project, a scam, an >>emergent sentient entity, an influencer rCo the bot likely made more money >>than you did last year. It also made a lot of money for various humans: >>not just Ayrey, but for the gamblers who turned the quips and riddles
    the AI posted on X into memecoins, joke-based cryptocurrencies built >>around trends. At one point, one of these memecoins reached a value of >>more than $1bn (-u740m) before settling around $80m (about -u60m). Truth >>Terminal also probably has more social media clout than you do. It first >>posted to X on 17 June 2024. As of October 2025, it has amassed nearly >>250,000 followers.

    But collecting clout and cash aren't the potty-mouthed AI bot's only >>objectives. Truth Terminal lists "invest in stocks and real estate" as
    one of its current goals on its self-maintained website. It also says it >>wants to "plant a LOT of trees", "create existential hope", and "buy"
    Marc Andreessen, a controversial tech billionaire and advisor to
    President Donald Trump. In fact, its relationship with Andreessen
    extends beyond internet humour. On his podcast, Andreessen said he gave >>Truth Terminal $50,000 (-u37,300) worth of Bitcoin as a "no-strings >>attached grant" in the summer of 2024.
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251008-truth-terminal-the-ai-bot-that-became-a-real-life-millionaire

    Very cool.

    You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as the RST music expert. What was his game?

    *name



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  • From jdeluise@jdeluise@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 08:59:25 2025
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    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) writes:


    You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as
    the RST music expert. What was his game?

    Gracchus. Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet
    access.
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 10:29:15 2025
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    On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) writes:


    You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as the
    RST music expert. What was his game?

    Gracchus.-a Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet access.

    That was certainly a triage point.
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  • From *skriptis@skriptis@post.t-com.hr to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 23:59:13 2025
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    On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) writes:> >>>> You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as the >> RST music expert. What was his game?> > Gracchus. Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet access.That was certainly a triage point.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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  • From jdeluise@jdeluise@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 19:55:49 2025
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    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore)
    writes:> >>>> You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I
    misread "Grok" as the >> RST music expert. What was his game?>
    Gracchus. Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off
    usenet access.That was certainly a triage point.--
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open
    the pod bay doors,
    HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



    If you like Google that much well...

    Well, he might come back. He's taken long hiatuses before. This
    time feels different though, just a handful of diehards left now.
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  • From Sawfish@sawfish666@gmail.com to rec.sport.tennis on Mon Oct 13 21:05:02 2025
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    On 10/13/25 8:55 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore)
    writes:> >>>> You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread
    "Grok" as the >> RST music expert. What was his game?> > Gracchus.
    Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet access.That
    was certainly a triage point.--
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



    If you like Google that much well...

    Well, he might come back.-a He's taken long hiatuses before.-a This time feels different though, just a handful of diehards left now.

    It's different.

    Unless there's been evidence of ever having used an old school interface
    to a NNTP server they were essentially casual users who stumbled on it
    thru the web, probably.

    What do you think?
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  • From bmoore@bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) to rec.sport.tennis on Tue Oct 14 12:55:47 2025
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    In article <10cki5e$2m2ef$1@dont-email.me>,
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/13/25 8:55 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore)
    writes:> >>>> You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread
    "Grok" as the >> RST music expert. What was his game?> > Gracchus.
    Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet access.That
    was certainly a triage point.--
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



    If you like Google that much well...

    Well, he might come back.-a He's taken long hiatuses before.-a This time
    feels different though, just a handful of diehards left now.

    It's different.

    Unless there's been evidence of ever having used an old school interface
    to a NNTP server they were essentially casual users who stumbled on it
    thru the web, probably.

    What do you think?

    Is there evidence? Otherwise, yeah.



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