According to FIFA, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup is a World Championship.
From FIFA's web-site:
"The battle for the ultimate annual club accolade, the FIFA
Intercontinental Cup (Match 5) will be a one-off match, played in the
same host nation as matches 3 and 4, to determine the club champions of
the world for each calendar year."
"Since it was first launched rCo as the FIFA Club World Championship in
2000 rCo the FIFA Intercontinental Cup has evolved to become the premier annual tournament in global club football, with the winners of the final match holding the crown of world champions for the next calendar year."
Then they list all the World Champions and include Real Madrid 2024!
https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/intercontinentalcup/2024/articles/information-tournament-details
If the FIFA Intercontinental Cup and the Club World Cup are both given
equal status, then doesn't that prove that the Club World Cup is pretty meaningless now? Especially as we've now got 2 World Champions in the same year?
If the FIFA Intercontinental Cup and the Club World Cup
are both given equal status, then doesn't that prove that
the Club World Cup is pretty meaningless now? Especially
as we've now got 2 World Champions in the same year?
According to FIFA, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup is a World Championship.--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
From FIFA's web-site:
"The battle for the ultimate annual club accolade, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup (Match 5) will be a one-off match, played in the same host nation as matches 3 and 4, to determine the club champions of the world for each calendar year."
"Since it was first launched rCo as the FIFA Club World Championship in 2000 rCo the FIFA Intercontinental Cup has evolved to become the premier annual tournament in global club football, with the winners of the final match holding the crown of world champions for the next calendar year."
Then they list all the World Champions and include Real Madrid 2024!
https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/intercontinentalcup/2024/articles/information-tournament-details
If the FIFA Intercontinental Cup and the Club World Cup are both given equal status, then doesn't that prove that the Club World Cup is pretty meaningless now? Especially as we've now got 2 World Champions in the same year?
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Testing to see if pugleaf is alive.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 12:42:02 +0000, Mark wrote:--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
According to FIFA, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup is a World Championship.
From FIFA's web-site:
"The battle for the ultimate annual club accolade, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup (Match 5) will be a one-off match, played in the same host nation as matches 3 and 4, to determine the club champions of the world for each calendar year."
"Since it was first launched rCo as the FIFA Club World Championship in 2000 rCo the FIFA Intercontinental Cup has evolved to become the premier annual tournament in global club football, with the winners of the final match holding the crown of world champions for the next calendar year."
Then they list all the World Champions and include Real Madrid 2024!
https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/intercontinentalcup/2024/articles/information-tournament-details
If the FIFA Intercontinental Cup and the Club World Cup are both given equal status, then doesn't that prove that the Club World Cup is pretty meaningless now? Especially as we've now got 2 World Champions in the same year?
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:15:14 +0000, JesperLauridsen wrote:
Testing to see if pugleaf is alive.
Well I thought it was. (I'm using it to post this.) There's no new messages for 2 days now though. Is RSS still alive?
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 12:42:02 +0000, Mark wrote:
According to FIFA, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup is a World Championship.
From FIFA's web-site:
"The battle for the ultimate annual club accolade, the FIFA Intercontinental Cup (Match 5) will be a one-off match, played in the same host nation as matches 3 and 4, to determine the club champions of the world for each calendar year."
"Since it was first launched rCo as the FIFA Club World Championship in 2000 rCo the FIFA Intercontinental Cup has evolved to become the premier annual tournament in global club football, with the winners of the final match holding the crown of world champions for the next calendar year."
Then they list all the World Champions and include Real Madrid 2024!
https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/intercontinentalcup/2024/articles/information-tournament-details
If the FIFA Intercontinental Cup and the Club World Cup are both given equal status, then doesn't that prove that the Club World Cup is pretty meaningless now? Especially as we've now got 2 World Champions in the same year?
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 15:45:51 +0000, Mark wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:15:14 +0000, JesperLauridsen wrote:
Testing to see if pugleaf is alive.
Well I thought it was. (I'm using it to post this.) There's no new
messages for 2 days now though. Is RSS still alive?
Either pugleaf has died or rss has died. No new messages other than
my own in 4 days now! Everybody's deserted me!
Mark wrote:
If the FIFA Intercontinental Cup and the Club World Cup
are both given equal status, then doesn't that prove that
the Club World Cup is pretty meaningless now? Especially
as we've now got 2 World Champions in the same year?
Welcome to the real world... you finally got there!
They've ALWAYS been meaningless competitions and only stupid
people think otherwise. Those type of glorified friendly
match-ups are good for sponsors and making a bit of money, but
in the big scheme of things they are not important competitions
at all.
Nothing FIFA do anymore is good for the game... they have an
agenda and it's all about them, making money and Gianni Infantino
lining his own pockets whilst boosting his ego at the same time.
The Club World Cup was a meaningful tournament from 2000
to 2023 surely?
How can the world's number 1 sport not have a World
Championship?
Nothing FIFA do anymore is good for the game... they have
an agenda and it's all about them, making money and Gianni
Infantino lining his own pockets whilst boosting his ego at
the same time.
That's possibly true. The world's number 1 sport needs a
meaningful World Championship, and we don't seem to have 1
anymore!
Mark wrote:
Either pugleaf has died or rss has died. No new messages
other than my own in 4 days now! Everybody's deserted me!
Apparently pugleaf has died! Still no new messages there
other than my own for about 6 days! so I'm trying xananews,
and there are other messages here. What's going on?
Mark wrote:
The Club World Cup was a meaningful tournament from 2000
to 2023 surely?
Nope. It was all about TV rights, sponsorship and money...
As nice as winning a trophy is, most supporters in Europe
would rather their team won the UEFA Champions League than
the Club World Cup. So meaningful is not a word I'd use to
describe those glorified exhibition tournaments.
How can the world's number 1 sport not have a World
Championship?
It does. It has two. An annual championship and a quadrennial
one. FIFA want the best of both worlds.
More tournaments = more TV rights revenue.
Mark wrote:
Mark wrote:
Either pugleaf has died or rss has died. No new messages
other than my own in 4 days now! Everybody's deserted me!
Apparently pugleaf has died! Still no new messages there
other than my own for about 6 days! so I'm trying xananews,
and there are other messages here. What's going on?
Why use an online interface to access Usenet when you've
a newsreader? That's like having a dog and barking yourself
every time the postman comes up the path.
It doesn't make any sense to me... and never did.
Blueshirt wrote:
Why use an online interface to access Usenet when you've
a newsreader? That's like having a dog and barking yourself
every time the postman comes up the path.
It doesn't make any sense to me... and never did.
I can see every message in a thread all on 1 page with an
online interface. It makes it easier to read, and easier to
find the messages I want to reply to, and easier to organize
votes etc.
Talking of which there's still no new messages on pugleaf.
Blueshirt wrote:
Mark wrote:
How can the world's number 1 sport not have a World
Championship?
It does. It has two. An annual championship and a quadrennial
one. FIFA want the best of both worlds.
More tournaments = more TV rights revenue.
It only had 1 between 2000 and 2023 though. I've not heard
any better suggestions for a World Club Championship than
what we had then.
Mark wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
Mark wrote:
How can the world's number 1 sport not have a World
Championship?
It does. It has two. An annual championship and a quadrennial
one. FIFA want the best of both worlds.
More tournaments = more TV rights revenue.
It only had 1 between 2000 and 2023 though. I've not heard
any better suggestions for a World Club Championship than
what we had then.
Chelsea won that in 2022, but I still consider it a meaningless
trophy at the end of the day. If you're in it, you want to win
it obviously... but I would put their five Premier League titles
and two Champions League triumphs above their Club World Cup
victory.
Of course, Chelsea FC's owners, sponsors and bank accounts might
have a different opinion to me...
Mark wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
Mark wrote:
How can the world's number 1 sport not have a World
Championship?
It does. It has two. An annual championship and a quadrennial
one. FIFA want the best of both worlds.
More tournaments = more TV rights revenue.
It only had 1 between 2000 and 2023 though. I've not heard
any better suggestions for a World Club Championship than
what we had then.
Chelsea won that in 2022, but I still consider it a meaningless
trophy at the end of the day.
Mark wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
Why use an online interface to access Usenet when you've
a newsreader? That's like having a dog and barking yourself
every time the postman comes up the path.
It doesn't make any sense to me... and never did.
I can see every message in a thread all on 1 page with an
online interface. It makes it easier to read, and easier to
find the messages I want to reply to, and easier to organize
votes etc.
But you keep saying there's no new messages on Pugleaf! So how
can you reply to them?
Talking of which there's still no new messages on pugleaf.
See!
Clearly your web interface to Usenet is unreliable. So why
persist with it when you have a fully functioning newsreader
on your computer?
Blueshirt wrote:
Chelsea won that in 2022, but I still consider it a
meaningless trophy at the end of the day.
Why? The Championship of the World > the championship of
a single continent or a single country. It's a far greater
measure of success and prestige surely?
Blueshirt wrote:
Mark wrote:
I can see every message in a thread all on 1 page with an
online interface. It makes it easier to read, and easier
to find the messages I want to reply to, and easier to
organize votes etc.
But you keep saying there's no new messages on Pugleaf! So
how can you reply to them?
When it's working properly I can reply. I almost didn't see
this message on my newsreader; it would have been directly
underneath your other message in a web interface.
Talking of which there's still no new messages on pugleaf.
See!
Clearly your web interface to Usenet is unreliable. So why
persist with it when you have a fully functioning newsreader
on your computer?
Because it might work better in future.
Mark wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
Chelsea won that in 2022, but I still consider it a
meaningless trophy at the end of the day.
Why? The Championship of the World > the championship of
a single continent or a single country. It's a far greater
measure of success and prestige surely?
No.
It's not a true measure of greatness. Nobody, not even you,
considers Chelsea FC to have been the best football team in
the world when they won the FIFA Club World Cup in 2022 or 2025.
So why would anyone apply that term to other teams that won it
in other years? Either it counts for everyone, or it doesn't
count at all.
The 2025 FIFA SuperCasino Cup had more teams taking part in it
than the old Inter-TotoContinental Cup, so in a way it was a
more relevant way of judging success at club level... but even
then, that tournament last summer didn't contain the current
domestic Champions of England [Liverpool] Italy [Napoli] or
Spain [Barcelona]... so how can it be a meaningful international
tournament and taken seriously by real fans?
Blueshirt wrote:
The 2025 FIFA SuperCasino Cup had more teams taking part in
it than the old Inter-TotoContinental Cup, so in a way it
was a more relevant way of judging success at club level...
but even then, that tournament last summer didn't contain
the current domestic Champions of England [Liverpool] Italy
[Napoli] or Spain [Barcelona]... so how can it be a
meaningful international tournament and taken seriously by
real fans?
They were knocked out in the qualifiers (ie the Champions
League) for the 2025 tournament. The qualifiers take time
(approximately 4 years with the new format). Those teams are
through to the next round of qualifiers for the 2029
tournament. All they need to do is win the Champions League in
the next 3 years, or perform well enough to qualify through
the ranking system, and they'll qualify for the 2029
tournament.
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