• so where can the Radio Amateur Callbook be purchased in US these days?

    From Gary Shaddick@none@nowhere.net to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sat Sep 9 13:01:48 2023
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    Just curious. A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if the
    hard copy book could still be purchased. Thank you.
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  • From David Wade@g4ugm@dave.invalid to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sat Sep 9 20:48:59 2023
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    On 09/09/2023 18:01, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    Just curious.-a A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if the
    hard copy book could still be purchased.-a Thank you.
    for the UK the RSGB except they call it the Yearbook.
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  • From David Wade@g4ugm@dave.invalid to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sat Sep 9 21:53:25 2023
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    On 09/09/2023 20:48, David Wade wrote:
    On 09/09/2023 18:01, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    Just curious.-a A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if the
    hard copy book could still be purchased.-a Thank you.
    for the UK the RSGB except they call it the Yearbook.

    oops you were talking USA and as it now contains 1.6million call signs
    only on CD or USB stick

    https://home.arrl.org/action/Store/Product-Details/productId/2012007305
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  • From Gary Shaddick@none@nowhere.net to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sat Sep 9 17:59:59 2023
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    On 9/9/23 4:53 PM, David Wade wrote:
    On 09/09/2023 20:48, David Wade wrote:
    On 09/09/2023 18:01, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    Just curious.-a A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if the
    hard copy book could still be purchased.-a Thank you.
    for the UK the RSGB except they call it the Yearbook.

    oops you were talking USA and as it now contains 1.6million call signs
    only on CD or USB stick

    https://home.arrl.org/action/Store/Product-Details/productId/2012007305

    That's too bad. The gentleman has no PC or Internet to speak of, so
    those items won't do him any good. My own online research seems to show
    no printed callbooks beyond the late 90's or early 00's.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sat Sep 9 19:13:46 2023
    From Newsgroup: rec.radio.amateur.antenna

    On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 17:59:59 -0400, Gary Shaddick <none@nowhere.net>
    wrote:

    On 9/9/23 4:53 PM, David Wade wrote:
    On 09/09/2023 20:48, David Wade wrote:
    On 09/09/2023 18:01, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    Just curious.a A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if the >>>> hard copy book could still be purchased.a Thank you.
    for the UK the RSGB except they call it the Yearbook.

    oops you were talking USA and as it now contains 1.6million call signs
    only on CD or USB stick

    https://home.arrl.org/action/Store/Product-Details/productId/2012007305

    That's too bad. The gentleman has no PC or Internet to speak of, so
    those items won't do him any good. My own online research seems to show
    no printed callbooks beyond the late 90's or early 00's.

    <https://www.callbook.biz>
    1.9 million call signs, but only on USB stick or CDROM. He will still
    need internet access in order to obtain updated information.

    If he's willing to take the plunge, the cheapest usable computer is
    probably a refurbished Chromebook:
    <https://acerrecertified.com/chromebooks/>
    One of these should suffice: <https://acerrecertified.com/chromebooks/?_bc_fsnf=1&Screen+Resolution%5B%5D=1920+x+1080&Screen+Resolution%5B%5D=1920+x+1200&mode=4&sort=priceasc&limit=12>
    If he needs detailed advice, the email and phone number in the message signature works.

    For internet access, I suggest he ask a neighbor if they are willing
    to share their broadband connection via wi-fi. If that can't be
    arranged, then have him visit a relative, coffee shop or library that
    has internet access via wi-fi.

    If he's financially limited, many service providers offer low income
    rates under the Affordable Connectivity Program: <https://www.xfinity.com/learn/internet-service/acp> <https://www.att.com/internet/access/> <https://official.spectrum.com/lfo-broadband>
    Others:
    <https://www.highspeedinternet.com/view-plans3>

    Good luck.
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    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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  • From Kevin Alfred Strom@kevin.strom@revilo-oliver.com to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sun Sep 10 00:29:59 2023
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    So far as I know, the print version is no longer published.

    With all good wishes,

    Kevin, WB4AIO.

    On 9/9/2023 1:01 PM, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    Just curious.-a A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if the
    hard copy book could still be purchased.-a Thank you.
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  • From David Wade@g4ugm@dave.invalid to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sun Sep 10 10:20:29 2023
    From Newsgroup: rec.radio.amateur.antenna

    On 09/09/2023 22:59, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    On 9/9/23 4:53 PM, David Wade wrote:
    On 09/09/2023 20:48, David Wade wrote:
    On 09/09/2023 18:01, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    Just curious.-a A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if
    the hard copy book could still be purchased.-a Thank you.
    for the UK the RSGB except they call it the Yearbook.

    oops you were talking USA and as it now contains 1.6million call signs
    only on CD or USB stick

    https://home.arrl.org/action/Store/Product-Details/productId/2012007305

    That's too bad.-a The gentleman has no PC or Internet to speak of, so
    those items won't do him any good.-a My own online research seems to show
    no printed callbooks beyond the late 90's or early 00's.

    No internet required. Available as USB or CD-ROM...

    Seeing as that page says it only runs on obsolete versions of Windows
    (xp through 8) I am pretty sure he could be sorted out with a suitable
    laptop for a minimal sum. If asks on local Freecycle or Craigslist even possibly for free...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/354985694918

    is reasonable price...
    ... I guess as he doesn't have one he can't use one and doesn't want to
    learn to use one. If so not a lot we can do...

    Dave
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sun Sep 10 08:58:59 2023
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    On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 10:20:29 +0100, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 09/09/2023 22:59, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    That's too bad.a The gentleman has no PC or Internet to speak of, so
    those items won't do him any good.a My own online research seems to show
    no printed callbooks beyond the late 90's or early 00's.

    No internet required. Available as USB or CD-ROM...

    The OP also mentioned that this gentleman doesn't have a PC.

    Perhaps a tablet, smartphone, game console or Android TV? These all
    have built in browsers which might suffice for looking up call signs
    using:
    <https://www.qrz.com>
    <https://www.arrl.org/fcc/search> <https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAmateur.jsp> <https://hamcall.net/call>
    <https://www.qth.com/callsign.php>
    <https://www.wm7d.net/fcc_uls/>
    etc...
    I just tried a few of these on the most garish and animated web pages.
    The more elaborate pages and ads wouldn't display because the built in
    browsers lacked Javascript and possibly HTML5 support. However, the
    simple search sites worked well.

    I changed my mind about recommending a Chromebook as a minimalist
    computer for call sign lookup. Instead, a cheap tablet or eBook
    reader, with a browser and wi-fi, might be a better solution,
    especially if he can't properly type on a keyboard. Speech to text
    might also help when entering the call sign.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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  • From David Wade@g4ugm@dave.invalid to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sun Sep 10 17:26:15 2023
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    On 10/09/2023 16:58, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 10:20:29 +0100, David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 09/09/2023 22:59, Gary Shaddick wrote:
    That's too bad.-a The gentleman has no PC or Internet to speak of, so
    those items won't do him any good.-a My own online research seems to show >>> no printed callbooks beyond the late 90's or early 00's.

    No internet required. Available as USB or CD-ROM...

    The OP also mentioned that this gentleman doesn't have a PC.

    Perhaps a tablet, smartphone, game console or Android TV? These all
    have built in browsers which might suffice for looking up call signs
    using:
    <https://www.qrz.com>
    <https://www.arrl.org/fcc/search> <https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAmateur.jsp> <https://hamcall.net/call>
    <https://www.qth.com/callsign.php>
    <https://www.wm7d.net/fcc_uls/>
    etc...
    I just tried a few of these on the most garish and animated web pages.
    The more elaborate pages and ads wouldn't display because the built in browsers lacked Javascript and possibly HTML5 support. However, the
    simple search sites worked well.

    I changed my mind about recommending a Chromebook as a minimalist
    computer for call sign lookup. Instead, a cheap tablet or eBook
    reader, with a browser and wi-fi, might be a better solution,
    especially if he can't properly type on a keyboard. Speech to text
    might also help when entering the call sign.


    He also said "no internet to speak of" which rules all those out....
    ... but of course that can probably be fixed...

    Dave
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  • From Gary Shaddick@none@nowhere.net to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Sun Sep 10 12:42:11 2023
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    As far as technology goes, he's not going to do it. He's in his late
    80's and as such is adamant that he's not doing anything digital since
    he's never had or used a PC, Smartphone, tablet, etc etc.

    The last printed Callbook, which I researched and found online for
    download, was from 1997. I did mention that he might be able to obtain
    one of these '97 ones online used, but with the consequence that he
    would be so many years behind current info. He says thanks but no
    thanks and he'll just continue logging with pen and paper as he always
    has and accepting the fact that he'll never be able to verify the calls.

    Thanks again to all. Personally, never being able to verify would drive
    me bonkers, but I guess not him.

    Take care
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Mon Sep 11 09:39:38 2023
    From Newsgroup: rec.radio.amateur.antenna

    On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 12:42:11 -0400, Gary Shaddick <none@nowhere.net>
    wrote:

    As far as technology goes, he's not going to do it. He's in his late
    80's and as such is adamant that he's not doing anything digital since
    he's never had or used a PC, Smartphone, tablet, etc etc.

    You give up too easily. Maybe some peer assistance or pressure: <https://sirinc.org>

    I'm 75 years old and I'm familiar with the problem of not being able
    to learn new things. I've done computer repair (and other things)
    since about 1983. Many of my original customers are still around and
    into their 80's. Given sufficient incentives and pressure from the
    relatives, they are able to learn, slowly.

    However, if all he wants is a call sign lookup, it should be possible
    to build a Morse code to ASCII text converter. He uses a straight key
    to input the call sign, which connects to a call sign server via the
    internet. A small computer (Raspberry Pi, tablet or smartphone) takes
    care of the conversion, and then uses a text to speech converter to
    provide the necessary address. The Morse key could probably be
    replaced by text to speech, but I think the Morse key would be more
    fun. Something similar might be available for handicapped access. <http://www.arrl.org/resources-for-the-disabled>

    The last printed Callbook, which I researched and found online for
    download, was from 1997. I did mention that he might be able to obtain
    one of these '97 ones online used, but with the consequence that he
    would be so many years behind current info. He says thanks but no
    thanks and he'll just continue logging with pen and paper as he always
    has and accepting the fact that he'll never be able to verify the calls.

    Would printing 2 million call signs and mailing addresses make him
    happy? At 3 mm per line, that would be 6,000 meters (3.7 miles) in
    printed text. Instead of pages in a book format, something like an
    ancient scroll would probably. By comparison, a typical toilet paper
    scroll is 23 meters (75 ft) long. Of course, the paper would need to
    be thicker for printing and the "book" would need to be split in
    sections, but it would work. Any plotter that supports paper in rolls
    should work. It should be possible to find software that will handle
    long strips, such as a banner printing program.

    Obviously, he's not going to be able to print it himself. However, it
    should be possible to find someone interested in doing it for him.

    Thanks again to all. Personally, never being able to verify would drive
    me bonkers, but I guess not him.

    I've never understood contesting, DX and QSL card collecting. For me,
    it's an aspect of ham radio that I've never found to be of interest.

    Take care
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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  • From Julian Macassey@julian@n6are.com to rec.radio.amateur.antenna on Wed Nov 15 11:00:50 2023
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    On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 13:01:48 -0400, Gary Shaddick <none@nowhere.net> wrote:
    Just curious. A gentleman asked me recently and I had no idea if the
    hard copy book could still be purchased. Thank you.

    It appears not. The international book was published by
    Buckmaster publishing. Nowadays all of this data is available on
    line.

    Their international book was always far from complete.

    https://buckmasterinternational.com/
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