• Re: Find the Correct Four-Digit Code

    From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles,alt.brain.teasers on Sun Oct 26 05:46:20 2025
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    "Carl G." <cginnowZeroZeroOne@microprizes.com> posted:

    Based on the "secret rule" used to create the four-digit codes for the first six words, what should the code for the seventh word be?

    1. Curtails = 1248
    2. Encourage = 5689
    3. Observes = 3478
    4. Separate = 3457
    5. Salvage = 1247
    6. Unsightly = 1589

    7. Catacomb = ????

    Carl G.

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    Seems pretty interesting!

    I'll first ask my AI
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles,alt.brain.teasers on Tue Oct 28 13:28:25 2025
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    On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 05:46:20 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    "Carl G." <cginnowZeroZeroOne@microprizes.com> posted:

    Based on the "secret rule" used to create the four-digit codes for the
    first six words, what should the code for the seventh word be?

    1. Curtails = 1248 2. Encourage = 5689 3. Observes = 3478 4. Separate
    = 3457 5. Salvage = 1247 6. Unsightly = 1589

    7. Catacomb = ????

    Carl G.

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    Seems pretty interesting!

    I'll first ask my AI

    I don't have an answer to this, but offer the following observations:

    The numbers given contain all digits 1 to 9, but exclude 0.
    The individual digits, left to right, always increase in the number.
    There are only 126 four-digit numbers from 0000 to 9999 that have no zeros
    and have increasing digits left to right. Seems unlikely to be by chance.
    Two of the numbers are prime.
    The last digit looks like the word length except for "4. Separate = 3457". Separate is the only word with a 'p', but that seems a bit vague.
    The given words include 17 individual letters.
    Catacomb includes the letter 'm', which doesn't appear the the other
    words.

    Anyone else have anything?
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  • From Carl G.@carlgnews@microprizes.com to rec.puzzles,alt.brain.teasers on Tue Oct 28 06:44:38 2025
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    On 10/25/2025 10:46 PM, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    "Carl G." <cginnowZeroZeroOne@microprizes.com> posted:

    Based on the "secret rule" used to create the four-digit codes for the first >> six words, what should the code for the seventh word be?

    1. Curtails = 1248
    2. Encourage = 5689
    3. Observes = 3478
    4. Separate = 3457
    5. Salvage = 1247
    6. Unsightly = 1589

    7. Catacomb = ????

    Carl G.

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    Seems pretty interesting!

    I'll first ask my AI
    I must have posted this over 20 years ago. I don't remember what my
    solution was.
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  • From Carl G.@carlgnews@microprizes.com to rec.puzzles,alt.brain.teasers on Tue Oct 28 06:57:04 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 6:44 AM, Carl G. wrote:
    On 10/25/2025 10:46 PM, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    "Carl G." <cginnowZeroZeroOne@microprizes.com> posted:

    Based on the "secret rule" used to create the four-digit codes for
    the first
    six words, what should the code for the seventh word be?

    1. Curtails = 1248
    2. Encourage = 5689
    3. Observes-a =-a 3478
    4. Separate = 3457
    5. Salvage = 1247
    6. Unsightly = 1589

    7. Catacomb = ????

    Carl G.

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    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Seems pretty-a interesting!

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I'll first-a ask my AI
    I must have posted this over 20 years ago.-a I don't remember what my solution was.
    I now know what my solution was.
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    Select letters based on the code number to form a four-letter word:
    CUrTailS (1248) ==> CUTS "Cuts" is a synonym of "Curtails"
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  • From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles,alt.brain.teasers on Tue Oct 28 15:14:46 2025
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    "Carl G." <carlgnews@microprizes.com> posted:

    On 10/28/2025 6:44 AM, Carl G. wrote:
    On 10/25/2025 10:46 PM, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    "Carl G." <cginnowZeroZeroOne@microprizes.com> posted:

    Based on the "secret rule" used to create the four-digit codes for
    the first
    six words, what should the code for the seventh word be?

    1. Curtails = 1248
    2. Encourage = 5689
    3. Observes-a =-a 3478
    4. Separate = 3457
    5. Salvage = 1247
    6. Unsightly = 1589

    7. Catacomb = ????

    Carl G.

    (For e-mail replies, convert words to digits)



    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Seems pretty-a interesting!

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I'll first-a ask my AI


    I must have posted this over 20 years ago.-a I don't remember what my solution was.


    really? Was the idea your original..? It's a great one!

    I'll try to find similar patterns in German, French, Jp....



    I now know what my solution was.
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    Select letters based on the code number to form a four-letter word:
    CUrTailS (1248) ==> CUTS "Cuts" is a synonym of "Curtails"

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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Tue Oct 28 15:29:35 2025
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    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 06:57:04 -0700, Carl G. wrote:

    I now know what my solution was.
    Hint...

    Ah, very good. They must have taken some finding.
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  • From Carl G.@carlgnews@microprizes.com to rec.puzzles,alt.brain.teasers on Tue Oct 28 14:29:36 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 8:14 AM, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    "Carl G." <carlgnews@microprizes.com> posted:

    On 10/28/2025 6:44 AM, Carl G. wrote:
    On 10/25/2025 10:46 PM, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

    "Carl G." <cginnowZeroZeroOne@microprizes.com> posted:

    Based on the "secret rule" used to create the four-digit codes for
    the first
    six words, what should the code for the seventh word be?

    1. Curtails = 1248
    2. Encourage = 5689
    3. Observes-a =-a 3478
    4. Separate = 3457
    5. Salvage = 1247
    6. Unsightly = 1589

    7. Catacomb = ????

    Carl G.

    (For e-mail replies, convert words to digits)



    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Seems pretty-a interesting!

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I'll first-a ask my AI


    I must have posted this over 20 years ago.-a I don't remember what my
    solution was.


    really? Was the idea your original..? It's a great one!

    I'll try to find similar patterns in German, French, Jp....

    I based the puzzle on a list I found of "kangaroo words"*. What was
    original was making a list with code numbers that gave the synonyms, and
    then asking for the code that gives the final word's synonym.

    *Can you find any more kangaroo-word puzzles that can astound (2356)?

    -Carl G.
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  • From Carl G.@carlgnews@microprizes.com to rec.puzzles on Tue Oct 28 14:40:13 2025
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    On 10/28/2025 8:29 AM, David Entwistle wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 06:57:04 -0700, Carl G. wrote:

    I now know what my solution was.
    Hint...

    Ah, very good. They must have taken some finding.

    I based the puzzle on a list of "Kangaroo words". The words had a
    certain charisma (12347), so I used them in a puzzle (about twenty years
    ago).
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Wed Oct 29 10:04:49 2025
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    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:40:13 -0700, Carl G. wrote:

    I based the puzzle on a list of "Kangaroo words". The words had a
    certain charisma (12347), so I used them in a puzzle (about twenty years ago).
    --
    Carl G.

    I'd say my word skills are generally substandard (368). I couldn't think
    of any kangaroo words without cheating. I'd need software assistance to
    make a list.
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  • From Richard Heathfield@rjh@cpax.org.uk to rec.puzzles on Wed Oct 29 11:54:38 2025
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    On 29/10/2025 10:04, David Entwistle wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:40:13 -0700, Carl G. wrote:

    I based the puzzle on a list of "Kangaroo words". The words had a
    certain charisma (12347), so I used them in a puzzle (about twenty years
    ago).
    --
    Carl G.

    I'd say my word skills are generally substandard (368). I couldn't think
    of any kangaroo words without cheating. I'd need software assistance to
    make a list.


    Here are 10 sans cheating:

    transgreSsIoN (sin)

    sPiRiTEd (pert)

    conIFeR (fir)

    unMAtRIMOniaL (immoral)

    hmm... tRansgREss (err) - a recurring theme, it seems

    pSyChogENEtICs (science)

    PhilHARmonic (harp)

    pAneGyricS (gas)

    hurRIcAne (air)

    WAvEfRonT (water)

    I was tempted by a double-barreled EASt SibEriAn (sea), but I
    don't know how hard the rules can be pushed.
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  • From HenHanna@NewsGrouper@user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles on Wed Oct 29 16:19:58 2025
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    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> posted:

    On 29/10/2025 10:04, David Entwistle wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:40:13 -0700, Carl G. wrote:

    I based the puzzle on a list of "Kangaroo words". The words had a
    certain charisma (12347), so I used them in a puzzle (about twenty years >> ago).
    --
    Carl G.

    I'd say my word skills are generally substandard (368). I couldn't think
    of any kangaroo words without cheating. I'd need software assistance to make a list.


    Here are 10 sans cheating:

    transgreSsIoN (sin)

    sPiRiTEd (pert)

    conIFeR (fir)

    unMAtRIMOniaL (immoral)

    hmm... tRansgREss (err) - a recurring theme, it seems

    pSyChogENEtICs (science)

    PhilHARmonic (harp)

    pAneGyricS (gas)

    hurRIcAne (air)

    WAvEfRonT (water)

    I was tempted by a double-barreled EASt SibEriAn (sea), but I
    don't know how hard the rules can be pushed.




    I asked my AI about samples in Fr, Ger, Jp, Latin.


    the Parent word is the Kangaroo word and the
    embedded (child) word is the Joey word.


    1. What is special about Container ?


    2. AI told me about the German noun Aktion.
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