• Card and Paper Puzzle

    From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Wed Oct 15 09:47:57 2025
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    I have a sheet of stiff card and a sheet of newspaper. I cut a 100 mm
    diameter circle out of the card and a square hole from the centre of the
    sheet of newspaper. What is the smallest side length of the square hole
    which will allow the circle to pass through the hole in the paper
    without bending the card and without tearing the paper? For the purposes
    of the puzzle, we can ignore the thickness of the card.

    I hope that is clear. If not, can you suggest how to make the intention
    clear?
    --
    David Entwistle

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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to rec.puzzles on Wed Oct 15 09:14:07 2025
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    In article <10cnn3t$3hgk4$1@dont-email.me>,
    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> wrote:
    I have a sheet of stiff card and a sheet of newspaper. I cut a 100 mm >diameter circle out of the card and a square hole from the centre of the >sheet of newspaper. What is the smallest side length of the square hole >which will allow the circle to pass through the hole in the paper
    without bending the card and without tearing the paper?

    But presumably not without "bending" the paper...

    -- Richard
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  • From James Dow Allen@user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.puzzles on Wed Oct 15 12:00:21 2025
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    richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:

    In article <10cnn3t$3hgk4$1@dont-email.me>,
    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> wrote:
    I have a sheet of stiff card and a sheet of newspaper. I cut a 100 mm >diameter circle out of the card and a square hole from the centre of the >sheet of newspaper. What is the smallest side length of the square hole >which will allow the circle to pass through the hole in the paper
    without bending the card and without tearing the paper?

    But presumably not without "bending" the paper...

    -- Richard

    Isn't bending the paper the whole trick?
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  • From Charlie Roberts@croberts@gmail.com to rec.puzzles on Wed Oct 15 10:14:12 2025
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    On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 12:00:21 GMT, James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:

    In article <10cnn3t$3hgk4$1@dont-email.me>,
    David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> wrote:
    I have a sheet of stiff card and a sheet of newspaper. I cut a 100 mm
    diameter circle out of the card and a square hole from the centre of the >> >sheet of newspaper. What is the smallest side length of the square hole
    which will allow the circle to pass through the hole in the paper
    without bending the card and without tearing the paper?

    But presumably not without "bending" the paper...

    -- Richard

    Isn't bending the paper the whole trick?

    Yes!
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  • From David Entwistle@qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz to rec.puzzles on Thu Oct 16 10:45:15 2025
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    On 15/10/2025 10:14, Richard Tobin wrote:
    But presumably not without "bending" the paper...

    Ah, no. My intention was to allow bending, or folding, of the paper. Not
    the card, just the paper.

    We could allow two answers, one with no folds and no bends to the paper
    and one with paper folding.

    The simple person that I am, I have to admit to having cut a disk out of
    card and a square hole in a sheet of newspaper. I then spent longer than
    you may imagine folding the paper and passing the disk through the hole.
    Each time I, after looking at the flat sheet, was still slightly (not
    sure of the word) "surprised(?)" that it actually fits through.
    --
    David Entwistle
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