My monthly exercise of the Onan generator was due, and I figured I
better get it done before the deep freeze sets in. I was kind of
surprised when I went out there, the LED panel showed the house
batteries very low. It snowed heavily a while back, and though I did uncover the solar panel going to the engine battery, not much I can do
about the roof panels. Not enough juice to even try and start the
Onan. So I had to put it on shore power for about two hours.
I've always had a hard time getting that generator to fire up, but I'll
be darned if it didn't just pop right off today at about 27F!
Surprised the hell out of me. Turned on everything I could to get a
load on it and let it run for about 25 minutes.
I guess I'll have to hook it up to the house every couple weeks if the
roof solar panels don't get the snow melted off. Also, jotting it down
on my list of reasons I need to build a garage for it. ;-)
On 2025-12-03 22:57:06 +0000, sticks said:
My monthly exercise of the Onan generator was due, and I figured I
better get it done before the deep freeze sets in.-a I was kind of
surprised when I went out there, the LED panel showed the house
batteries very low.-a It snowed heavily a while back, and though I did
uncover the solar panel going to the engine battery, not much I can do
about the roof panels.-a Not enough juice to even try and start the
Onan.-a-a So I had to put it on shore power for about two hours.
I've always had a hard time getting that generator to fire up, but
I'll be darned if it didn't just pop right off today at about 27F!
Surprised the hell out of me.-a Turned on everything I could to get a
load on it and let it run for about 25 minutes.
I guess I'll have to hook it up to the house every couple weeks if the
roof solar panels don't get the snow melted off.-a Also, jotting it
down on my list of reasons I need to build a garage for it.-a ;-)
I put up an RV port over 20 years ago and have never regretted it. Best
RV thing I've done. RVs are not designed to be in the weather,
unocuppied or unheated 24/7/365
On 12/5/2025 9:38 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
On 2025-12-03 22:57:06 +0000, sticks said:
My monthly exercise of the Onan generator was due, and I figured I
better get it done before the deep freeze sets in.|e-a I was kind of
surprised when I went out there, the LED panel showed the house
batteries very low.|e-a It snowed heavily a while back, and though I
did uncover the solar panel going to the engine battery, not much I
can do about the roof panels.|e-a Not enough juice to even try and
start the Onan.|e-a|e-a So I had to put it on shore power for about two >>> hours.
I've always had a hard time getting that generator to fire up, but
I'll be darned if it didn't just pop right off today at about 27F!
Surprised the hell out of me.|e-a Turned on everything I could to get
a load on it and let it run for about 25 minutes.
I guess I'll have to hook it up to the house every couple weeks if
the roof solar panels don't get the snow melted off.|e-a Also,
jotting it down on my list of reasons I need to build a garage for
it.|e-a ;-)
I put up an RV port over 20 years ago and have never regretted it.
Best RV thing I've done. RVs are not designed to be in the weather,
unocuppied or unheated 24/7/365
I just hate the thought of it sitting out there in the cold, waiting
for part of an oak tree to fall on it, or get damaged in another hail
storm. -aI have always kept my vehicles in a garage and heated it about
15 years ago.-a It certainly keeps our vehicles looking better than the neighbors who keep them outside, and sure makes it easier to start
them up on the cold winter days.
20 years ago I would have just build a place for it myself, but I'm
afraid those days are over.-a Of course I can afford to pay someone to
do it now, so it doesn't hurt as bad.-a My biggest problem is the
location of my well.-a I had tried to get the county to let me place a manhole with a sealed access to it and then an elbow to move it about
8 feet for the above ground portion of the pipe, but they wouldn't
budge and said no.-a If you look at the picture, you can see the well
just behind the RV and it makes it a little tricky getting in and
out.-a I can't pull straight in.-a If they would have let me move it up
the hill, I could have built a garage right where it is easily.-a Sure,
I could do a new well, but that's over $10K now.-a I'm hoping to find a solution, and will have to do the math on just keeping it in storage somewhere.
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
sticks wrote:
20 years ago I would have just build a place for it myself, but I'm
afraid those days are over.-a Of course I can afford to pay someone to
do it now, so it doesn't hurt as bad.-a My biggest problem is the
location of my well.-a I had tried to get the county to let me place a
manhole with a sealed access to it and then an elbow to move it about
8 feet for the above ground portion of the pipe, but they wouldn't
budge and said no.-a If you look at the picture, you can see the well
just behind the RV and it makes it a little tricky getting in and
out.-a I can't pull straight in.-a If they would have let me move it up
the hill, I could have built a garage right where it is easily.-a Sure,
I could do a new well, but that's over $10K now.-a I'm hoping to find a
solution, and will have to do the math on just keeping it in storage
somewhere.
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
On 12/5/2025 8:06 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
---snip---
20 years ago I would have just build a place for it myself, but I'm
afraid those days are over.|e-a Of course I can afford to pay someone
to do it now, so it doesn't hurt as bad.|e-a My biggest problem is
the location of my well.|e-a I had tried to get the county to let me
place a manhole with a sealed access to it and then an elbow to
move it about 8 feet for the above ground portion of the pipe, but
they wouldn't budge and said no.|e-a If you look at the picture, you
can see the well just behind the RV and it makes it a little tricky
getting in and out.|e-a I can't pull straight in.|e-a If they would
have let me move it up the hill, I could have built a garage right
where it is easily.|e-a Sure, I could do a new well, but that's over
$10K now.|e-a I'm hoping to find a solution, and will have to do the
math on just keeping it in storage somewhere.
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
Yes, I can level and extend the slide out there.-a The problem is
getting in and out with the well behind the right rear wheel.
On 12/5/2025 9:38 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
On 2025-12-03 22:57:06 +0000, sticks said:
I guess I'll have to hook it up to the house every couple
weeks if the roof solar panels don't get the snow melted off.
Also, jotting it down on my list of reasons I need to build a
garage for it. ;-)
I put up an RV port over 20 years ago and have never regretted
it. Best RV thing I've done. RVs are not designed to be in the
weather, unocuppied or unheated 24/7/365
I just hate the thought of it sitting out there in the cold,
waiting for part of an oak tree to fall on it, or get damaged
in another hail storm. I have always kept my vehicles in a
garage and heated it about 15 years ago. It certainly keeps
our vehicles looking better than the neighbors who keep them
outside, and sure makes it easier to start them up on the cold
winter days.
sticks wrote:
That's a strange looking well. What's down there?
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
Yes, I can level and extend the slide out there.-a The problem is
getting in and out with the well behind the right rear wheel.
On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 16:46:36 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 12/5/2025 9:38 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
On 2025-12-03 22:57:06 +0000, sticks said:
I guess I'll have to hook it up to the house every couple
weeks if the roof solar panels don't get the snow melted off.
Also, jotting it down on my list of reasons I need to build a
garage for it. ;-)
I put up an RV port over 20 years ago and have never regretted
it. Best RV thing I've done. RVs are not designed to be in the
weather, unocuppied or unheated 24/7/365
I just hate the thought of it sitting out there in the cold,
waiting for part of an oak tree to fall on it, or get damaged
in another hail storm. I have always kept my vehicles in a
garage and heated it about 15 years ago. It certainly keeps
our vehicles looking better than the neighbors who keep them
outside, and sure makes it easier to start them up on the cold
winter days.
I kept our trailer in an outdoor space at a nearby storage
facility for the first few months until a space under a roof
opened up. The rent went from $65 to $95/month, not unreasonable.
When we moved to Omaha in July I really wanted a house that had a
garage that could accomodate it. The options that fit our other
criteria hard third car garage that either had a ceiling that was
too low, or were not long enough. So I settled for a Public
Storage space that's behid a bay door. It was $150/month with the
second month free, so pretty reasonable. They are raising it to
$200/month soon, and I may be looking for other options. One
other plus is that there's a 120 V outlet inside so I can power a
few things in the trailer directly from that.
On 12/5/2025 10:18 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
That's a strange looking well. What's down there?
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
Yes, I can level and extend the slide out there.|e-a The problem is
getting in and out with the well behind the right rear wheel.
Don't know what you mean?-a It's a typical well.-a This one has over
200' of casing in the ground.-a The actual water pipe come out about 6' under the existing ground level and comes in the basement wall at that elevation, about 6" off the floor.
sticks wrote:
On 12/5/2025 10:18 PM, bfh wrote:Not typical here. Deep wells right around here tend to have the tank
sticks wrote:
That's a strange looking well. What's down there?
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
Yes, I can level and extend the slide out there.|e-a The problem is
getting in and out with the well behind the right rear wheel.
Don't know what you mean?-a It's a typical well.-a This one has over
200' of casing in the ground.-a The actual water pipe come out about 6'
under the existing ground level and comes in the basement wall at that
elevation, about 6" off the floor.
close to the well, and the water pipe comes up out of the well hole and
goes to the tank. In your case, how much trouble is it to replace the
pump when the pipe makes a right angle 6 ft underground? Do they have to
dig down outside of the casing to disconnect the horizontal pipe so they
can pull the pump out? Or maybe the horizontal pipe is in a casing to
the basement, and they can unscrew it from down there My brain ain't
what it used to be, so maybe I'm missing something obvious?
On 12/8/2025 10:09 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/5/2025 10:18 PM, bfh wrote:Not typical here. Deep wells right around here tend to have the tank
sticks wrote:
That's a strange looking well. What's down there?
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
Yes, I can level and extend the slide out there.|arCU|e-a The problem >>>>> is getting in and out with the well behind the right rear wheel.
Don't know what you mean?|e-a It's a typical well.|e-a This one has
over 200' of casing in the ground.|e-a The actual water pipe come out
about 6' under the existing ground level and comes in the basement
wall at that elevation, about 6" off the floor.
close to the well, and the water pipe comes up out of the well hole
and goes to the tank. In your case, how much trouble is it to
replace the pump when the pipe makes a right angle 6 ft underground?
Do they have to dig down outside of the casing to disconnect the
horizontal pipe so they can pull the pump out? Or maybe the
horizontal pipe is in a casing to the basement, and they can unscrew
it from down there My brain ain't what it used to be, so maybe I'm
missing something obvious?
It's done with the help of what is known as a pitless adapter.-a When
the well is initially installed this two part piece gets placed and
screwed onto the casing after drilling a hole for it.-a The well pipe
slides down onto this and locks in place.-a No digging unless the
adapter has rotted out and needs replacing.
<https://blueridgepumps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Pitless-1-300x269.gif>
sticks wrote:
On 12/8/2025 10:09 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/5/2025 10:18 PM, bfh wrote:Not typical here. Deep wells right around here tend to have the tank
sticks wrote:
That's a strange looking well. What's down there?
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
Yes, I can level and extend the slide out there.|arCU|e-a The problem >>>>>> is getting in and out with the well behind the right rear wheel.
Don't know what you mean?|e-a It's a typical well.|e-a This one has over >>>> 200' of casing in the ground.|e-a The actual water pipe come out about >>>> 6' under the existing ground level and comes in the basement wall at
that elevation, about 6" off the floor.
close to the well, and the water pipe comes up out of the well hole
and goes to the tank. In your case, how much trouble is it to replace
the pump when the pipe makes a right angle 6 ft underground? Do they
have to dig down outside of the casing to disconnect the horizontal
pipe so they can pull the pump out? Or maybe the horizontal pipe is
in a casing to the basement, and they can unscrew it from down there
My brain ain't what it used to be, so maybe I'm missing something
obvious?
It's done with the help of what is known as a pitless adapter.-a When
the well is initially installed this two part piece gets placed and
screwed onto the casing after drilling a hole for it.-a The well pipe
slides down onto this and locks in place.-a No digging unless the
adapter has rotted out and needs replacing.
<https://blueridgepumps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/
Pitless-1-300x269.gif>
That's interesting. How did they originally get the pipe to your
basement? A 6-ft deep trench?
On 12/9/2025 3:12 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/8/2025 10:09 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/5/2025 10:18 PM, bfh wrote:Not typical here. Deep wells right around here tend to have the
sticks wrote:
That's a strange looking well. What's down there?
<https://postimg.cc/3yp7vVYS>
That looks kinda tight. Can you open that driver door?
Yes, I can level and extend the slide out there.|a|A|ore4+i|arCU|e-a The
problem is getting in and out with the well behind the right
rear wheel.
Don't know what you mean?|arCU|e-a It's a typical well.|arCU|e-a This one
has over 200' of casing in the ground.|arCU|e-a The actual water pipe >>>>> come out about 6' under the existing ground level and comes in
the basement wall at that elevation, about 6" off the floor.
tank close to the well, and the water pipe comes up out of the
well hole and goes to the tank. In your case, how much trouble is
it to replace the pump when the pipe makes a right angle 6 ft
underground? Do they have to dig down outside of the casing to
disconnect the horizontal pipe so they can pull the pump out? Or
maybe the horizontal pipe is in a casing to the basement, and they
can unscrew it from down there My brain ain't what it used to be,
so maybe I'm missing something obvious?
It's done with the help of what is known as a pitless adapter.|e
When the well is initially installed this two part piece gets
placed and screwed onto the casing after drilling a hole for it.|e
The well pipe slides down onto this and locks in place.|e-a No
digging unless the adapter has rotted out and needs replacing.
<https://blueridgepumps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/
Pitless-1-300x269.gif>
That's interesting. How did they originally get the pipe to your
basement? A 6-ft deep trench?
Yes.-a The first thing they do is drill the well.-a Once they do that
they then trench from the well to where they want to go into the
house, poke a hole in the wall, insert the pipe, seal that all up and
go from there to connect insert the pitless adapter and connect the
pipe.-a I can take a picture of it coming into the house if you'd like?
Right inside the wall is the pressure control switch.-a This is the--
only thing I've ever had a problem with on the well.-a They have what
is almost like a set of automotive points in there.-a Mine had carboned
over and needed a little cleaning with emery cloth to clean them up.
Once done it was back up and running.
sticks wrote:
It's done with the help of what is known as a pitless adapter.|e When >>>> the well is initially installed this two part piece gets placed and
screwed onto the casing after drilling a hole for it.|e The well pipe >>>> slides down onto this and locks in place.|e-a No digging unless the
adapter has rotted out and needs replacing.
<https://blueridgepumps.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/
Pitless-1-300x269.gif>
That's interesting. How did they originally get the pipe to your
basement? A 6-ft deep trench?
Yes.-a The first thing they do is drill the well.-a Once they do that
they then trench from the well to where they want to go into the
house, poke a hole in the wall, insert the pipe, seal that all up and
go from there to connect insert the pitless adapter and connect the
pipe.-a I can take a picture of it coming into the house if you'd like?
Yes, when you get the time.
Is that pipe inside a casing?
Is it PVC or iron?
Is the wiring in the casing - if there is a casing - or is it just in
the ground beside the pipe?
What kind of tank is in the basement?
Right inside the wall is the pressure control switch.-a This is the
only thing I've ever had a problem with on the well.-a They have what
is almost like a set of automotive points in there.-a Mine had carboned
over and needed a little cleaning with emery cloth to clean them up.
Once done it was back up and running.
On 12/10/2025 10:47 PM, sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 10:27 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 9:58 AM, sticks wrote:Why is there a hose clamp on that water pipe?
Those pics were all crap.|e-a Try these if you'd like.
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hmk24rqvivt1lfmbqtnhl/
Incoming1inchPipe.jpg?rlkey=g0hv6sgwh9x540nlfmky7bu27&dl=0>
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/acfzoo6fj3ea20r0b77bm/
PipeAndPressureSwitch.jpg?rlkey=yu1d6lr8hzatiz57l7izt4tm3&dl=0>
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yqusagwewrxa6dvxif9jk/Tank-And-
Filter.jpg?rlkey=8or08o5yteed01oj6dzex5kah&dl=0>
I thought it was just to hold the pipe wrap on, but now you got me
wondering.|e-a I'll have to investigate it some more tomorrow
I looked closer this morning and I think what you were hinting at is correct.-a The connection nipple is a galvanized part, but the actual
line is the black pvc pipe.-a The marking on it is too worn down to
look it up.-a Does seem a little odd to me.-a They must thread the
nipple onto it, probably with some teflon tape, and then just secure
it with the clamp.-a It is a pretty solid thick pvc, and they probably
do it differently these days, but it doesn't leak so I guess it works. <knock on wood>
sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 10:47 PM, sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 10:27 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 9:58 AM, sticks wrote:Why is there a hose clamp on that water pipe?
Those pics were all crap.|e-a Try these if you'd like.
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hmk24rqvivt1lfmbqtnhl/
Incoming1inchPipe.jpg?rlkey=g0hv6sgwh9x540nlfmky7bu27&dl=0>
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/acfzoo6fj3ea20r0b77bm/
PipeAndPressureSwitch.jpg?rlkey=yu1d6lr8hzatiz57l7izt4tm3&dl=0>
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yqusagwewrxa6dvxif9jk/Tank-And-
Filter.jpg?rlkey=8or08o5yteed01oj6dzex5kah&dl=0>
I thought it was just to hold the pipe wrap on, but now you got me
wondering.|e-a I'll have to investigate it some more tomorrow
I looked closer this morning and I think what you were hinting at is
correct.-a The connection nipple is a galvanized part, but the actual
line is the black pvc pipe.-a The marking on it is too worn down to
look it up.-a Does seem a little odd to me.-a They must thread the
nipple onto it, probably with some teflon tape, and then just secure
it with the clamp.-a It is a pretty solid thick pvc, and they probably
do it differently these days, but it doesn't leak so I guess it works.
<knock on wood>
Are you sure that black pipe is not hard rubber hose? I can't see
anything on the pic that looks like spiraling wrap.
On 12/11/2025 9:01 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 10:47 PM, sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 10:27 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/10/2025 9:58 AM, sticks wrote:Why is there a hose clamp on that water pipe?
Those pics were all crap.|arCU|e-a Try these if you'd like.
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hmk24rqvivt1lfmbqtnhl/
Incoming1inchPipe.jpg?rlkey=g0hv6sgwh9x540nlfmky7bu27&dl=0>
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/acfzoo6fj3ea20r0b77bm/
PipeAndPressureSwitch.jpg?rlkey=yu1d6lr8hzatiz57l7izt4tm3&dl=0>
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yqusagwewrxa6dvxif9jk/Tank-And-
Filter.jpg?rlkey=8or08o5yteed01oj6dzex5kah&dl=0>
I thought it was just to hold the pipe wrap on, but now you got me
wondering.|arCU|e-a I'll have to investigate it some more tomorrow
I looked closer this morning and I think what you were hinting at
is correct.|e-a The connection nipple is a galvanized part, but the
actual line is the black pvc pipe.|e-a The marking on it is too worn
down to look it up.|e-a Does seem a little odd to me.|e-a They must
thread the nipple onto it, probably with some teflon tape, and then
just secure it with the clamp.|e-a It is a pretty solid thick pvc,
and they probably do it differently these days, but it doesn't leak
so I guess it works. <knock on wood>
Are you sure that black pipe is not hard rubber hose? I can't see
anything on the pic that looks like spiraling wrap.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.-a I don't think it's rubber, but some
kind of pvc pipe.-a Markings are worn out so I can't look it up.-a I
thought it was just a cover, but no it is the actual piping the water
comes to the house in.
sticks wrote:
Are you sure that black pipe is not hard rubber hose? I can't see
anything on the pic that looks like spiraling wrap.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.-a I don't think it's rubber, but some
kind of pvc pipe.-a Markings are worn out so I can't look it up.-a I
thought it was just a cover, but no it is the actual piping the water
comes to the house in.
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can compress PVC - black or
white - with a hose clamp. I think it's probably HDPE/poly pipe which
can be compressed over a barbed connector. And the internet says it
lasts longer underground than PVC. So it's probably going to outlast you.
On 12/11/2025 11:07 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
Are you sure that black pipe is not hard rubber hose? I
can't see anything on the pic that looks like spiraling
wrap.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I don't think it's rubber,
but some kind of pvc pipe. Markings are worn out so I can't
look it up. I thought it was just a cover, but no it is the
actual piping the water comes to the house in.
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can compress PVC -
black or white - with a hose clamp. I think it's probably
HDPE/poly pipe which can be compressed over a barbed
connector. And the internet says it lasts longer underground
than PVC. So it's probably going to outlast you.
I think you're probably correct. If I ever talk to a well guy,
I'm gonna ask why they wouldn't come thru the same hole in the
wall with the electric and the piping. If the same pipe is
used going down to the pump, surely they would tape or zip tie
it together in that application?
You got a good eye for detail Mr. Bill
On 12/11/2025 11:07 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
Are you sure that black pipe is not hard rubber hose? I can't see
anything on the pic that looks like spiraling wrap.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.|e-a I don't think it's rubber, but
some kind of pvc pipe.|e-a Markings are worn out so I can't look it
up.|e-a I thought it was just a cover, but no it is the actual piping
the water comes to the house in.
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can compress PVC - black or
white - with a hose clamp. I think it's probably HDPE/poly pipe
which can be compressed over a barbed connector. And the internet
says it lasts longer underground than PVC. So it's probably going to
outlast you.
I think you're probably correct.-a If I ever talk to a well guy, I'm
gonna ask why they wouldn't come thru the same hole in the wall with
the electric and the piping.-a If the same pipe is used going down to
the pump, surely they would tape or zip tie it together in that
application?
You got a good eye for detail Mr. Bill
sticks wrote:
On 12/11/2025 11:07 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
Are you sure that black pipe is not hard rubber hose? I can't see
anything on the pic that looks like spiraling wrap.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.|e-a I don't think it's rubber, but
some kind of pvc pipe.|e-a Markings are worn out so I can't look it
up.|e-a I thought it was just a cover, but no it is the actual piping >>>> the water comes to the house in.
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can compress PVC - black or
white - with a hose clamp. I think it's probably HDPE/poly pipe which
can be compressed over a barbed connector. And the internet says it
lasts longer underground than PVC. So it's probably going to outlast
you.
I think you're probably correct.-a If I ever talk to a well guy, I'm
gonna ask why they wouldn't come thru the same hole in the wall with
the electric and the piping.-a If the same pipe is used going down to
the pump, surely they would tape or zip tie it together in that
application?
I don't know. I've about worn out my brain trying to visualize what it
needs to look like below that connection 6 ft underground to make it
easy to pull the pump out if it becomes necessary.
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