• Re: A lemon?

    From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue Feb 4 19:22:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries charged
    and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20 minutes.-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on again.-a Put the OBD2 reader
    on it and sure as hell there is 2 new faults showing up.-a I'll have to
    take it back to the shop I guess.-a Yeah, these damn Mercedes are very impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today. He's got me thinking that
    it just might be the idling that has caused this error. This is the
    first diesel I've had that uses DEF and has all that newfangled emission stuff. He claims idling is not good on modern diesels because it can
    foul up the DPF (diesel particulate filter). I guess these things do a regeneration cycle as needed, but it is done only at a fully warmed up
    engine and while actually driving. I guess it gets hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it for a spin
    and see if the damn lights go off. Would be nice if that's all it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.
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  • From bfh@redydog@rye.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue Feb 4 22:58:30 2025
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    sticks wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries
    charged and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20
    minutes.|e-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on again.|e
    Put the OBD2 reader on it and sure as hell there is 2 new faults
    showing up.|e-a I'll have to take it back to the shop I guess.|e-a Yeah,
    these damn Mercedes are very impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today.-a He's got me thinking
    that it just might be the idling that has caused this error.-a This is
    the first diesel I've had that uses DEF and has all that newfangled
    emission stuff.-a He claims idling is not good on modern diesels
    because it can foul up the DPF (diesel particulate filter).-a I guess
    these things do a regeneration cycle as needed, but it is done only at
    a fully warmed up engine and while actually driving.-a I guess it gets
    hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it for a
    spin and see if the damn lights go off.-a Would be nice if that's all
    it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.


    If you don't have a very very long beautiful extension cord, how about
    a solar battery maintainer?
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Wed Feb 5 21:46:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries
    charged and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20
    minutes.-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on again.-a
    Put the OBD2 reader on it and sure as hell there is 2 new faults
    showing up.-a I'll have to take it back to the shop I guess.-a Yeah,
    these damn Mercedes are very impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today. He's got me thinking
    that it just might be the idling that has caused this error. This is
    the first diesel I've had that uses DEF and has all that newfangled
    emission stuff. He claims idling is not good on modern diesels
    because it can foul up the DPF (diesel particulate filter). I guess
    these things do a regeneration cycle as needed, but it is done only
    at a fully warmed up engine and while actually driving. I guess it
    gets hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it for a
    spin and see if the damn lights go off. Would be nice if that's all
    it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.

    Yes, ran into an article on diesels. Partly polution related (very
    slanted) but it did mention that they don't do well on idle. The
    fellow was recommending a law that diesels not be allowed to idle more
    than some short time (2 minites? We have lights longer than that
    here). They wanted them to turn it off then restart. Problem came up
    that that costs more gas than idling.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Wed Feb 5 21:52:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    bfh wrote:

    sticks wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries
    charged and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20 minutes.|e-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on
    again.|e Put the OBD2 reader on it and sure as hell there is 2
    new faults showing up.|e-a I'll have to take it back to the shop I guess.|e-a Yeah, these damn Mercedes are very impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today.-a He's got me thinking
    that it just might be the idling that has caused this error.-a This
    is the first diesel I've had that uses DEF and has all that
    newfangled emission stuff.-a He claims idling is not good on modern diesels because it can foul up the DPF (diesel particulate
    filter).-a I guess these things do a regeneration cycle as needed,
    but it is done only at a fully warmed up engine and while actually driving.-a I guess it gets hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it for a
    spin and see if the damn lights go off.-a Would be nice if that's
    all it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.


    If you don't have a very very long beautiful extension cord, how
    about a solar battery maintainer?

    Something like this?

    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Wed Feb 5 16:43:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/5/2025 3:46 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries
    charged and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20
    minutes.-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on again.
    Put the OBD2 reader on it and sure as hell there is 2 new faults
    showing up.-a I'll have to take it back to the shop I guess.-a Yeah,
    these damn Mercedes are very impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today. He's got me thinking
    that it just might be the idling that has caused this error. This is
    the first diesel I've had that uses DEF and has all that newfangled
    emission stuff. He claims idling is not good on modern diesels
    because it can foul up the DPF (diesel particulate filter). I guess
    these things do a regeneration cycle as needed, but it is done only
    at a fully warmed up engine and while actually driving. I guess it
    gets hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it for a
    spin and see if the damn lights go off. Would be nice if that's all
    it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.

    Yes, ran into an article on diesels. Partly polution related (very
    slanted) but it did mention that they don't do well on idle. The
    fellow was recommending a law that diesels not be allowed to idle more
    than some short time (2 minites? We have lights longer than that
    here). They wanted them to turn it off then restart. Problem came up
    that that costs more gas than idling.

    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is that it
    needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this automatically as
    often as every 500 miles. Most people, like me, don't even know about
    it. Seems like there should be a little more information given to the customer since if you do what I did the check engine light come on and
    you have to haul the RV to the dealer if you don't know what is going
    on, when all you have to do is just run the thing for an hour or so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light come on if
    it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to take it in and do a
    forced on. I guess I'll find out.
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    Better Days Ahead!
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Wed Feb 5 16:50:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/5/2025 3:52 PM, Carol wrote:
    bfh wrote:

    sticks wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries
    charged and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20
    minutes.|e-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on
    again.|e Put the OBD2 reader on it and sure as hell there is 2
    new faults showing up.|e-a I'll have to take it back to the shop I
    guess.|e-a Yeah, these damn Mercedes are very impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today.-a He's got me thinking
    that it just might be the idling that has caused this error.-a This
    is the first diesel I've had that uses DEF and has all that
    newfangled emission stuff.-a He claims idling is not good on modern
    diesels because it can foul up the DPF (diesel particulate
    filter).-a I guess these things do a regeneration cycle as needed,
    but it is done only at a fully warmed up engine and while actually
    driving.-a I guess it gets hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it for a
    spin and see if the damn lights go off.-a Would be nice if that's
    all it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.


    If you don't have a very very long beautiful extension cord, how
    about a solar battery maintainer?

    Something like this?

    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an outlet
    outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend has a large
    backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has been using one on for the
    last two years and it even keeps that big battery charged up and will
    start in the winter after not being used for long periods. No electric
    where he keeps it. His is permanently mounted and on all the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries up, but I had
    that switch off since I was starting it every week. Guess I'll turn
    that back on and then get something for the engine battery soon.
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
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  • From Ted Heise@theise@panix.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Thu Feb 6 16:41:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:43:23 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 3:46 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today. He's got me
    thinking that it just might be the idling that has caused
    this error. This is the first diesel I've had that uses DEF
    and has all that newfangled emission stuff. He claims idling
    is not good on modern diesels because it can foul up the DPF
    (diesel particulate filter). I guess these things do a
    regeneration cycle as needed, but it is done only at a fully
    warmed up engine and while actually driving. I guess it gets
    hot as hell.

    Yes, ran into an article on diesels. Partly polution related
    (very slanted) but it did mention that they don't do well on
    idle. The fellow was recommending a law that diesels not be
    allowed to idle more than some short time (2 minites? We have
    lights longer than that here). They wanted them to turn it
    off then restart. Problem came up that that costs more gas
    than idling.

    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is
    that it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this
    automatically as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like
    me, don't even know about it. Seems like there should be a
    little more information given to the customer since if you do
    what I did the check engine light come on and you have to haul
    the RV to the dealer if you don't know what is going on, when
    all you have to do is just run the thing for an hour or so.

    Typical. I have a real pet peeve about the paucity of user
    manuals these days. When they're even available, they have almost
    no useful information. Thankfully, searching the web will usually
    gather the necessary intelligence, but still. Bah humbug.
    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Thu Feb 6 16:31:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/6/2025 10:41 AM, Ted Heise wrote:

    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is
    that it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this
    automatically as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like
    me, don't even know about it. Seems like there should be a
    little more information given to the customer since if you do
    what I did the check engine light come on and you have to haul
    the RV to the dealer if you don't know what is going on, when
    all you have to do is just run the thing for an hour or so.

    Typical. I have a real pet peeve about the paucity of user
    manuals these days. When they're even available, they have almost
    no useful information. Thankfully, searching the web will usually
    gather the necessary intelligence, but still. Bah humbug.

    There is so much environmental stuff on these engines anymore you have
    to be a MIT grad to figure out all the systems. Live and learn I guess.

    I eventually will get a new pickup and I always thought I'd go for a
    diesel this time. Not so sure anymore. California and they're
    restrictions on diesel engines in RVs is a warning for sure. A dumb
    one, but I'll be watching how that plays out.
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    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Thu Feb 6 23:18:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/5/2025 3:52 PM, Carol wrote:
    bfh wrote:

    sticks wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries
    charged and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20 minutes.|e-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on
    again.|e Put the OBD2 reader on it and sure as hell there is
    2 new faults showing up.|e-a I'll have to take it back to the
    shop I guess.|e-a Yeah, these damn Mercedes are very
    impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today.-a He's got me
    thinking that it just might be the idling that has caused this
    error.-a This is the first diesel I've had that uses DEF and
    has all that newfangled emission stuff.-a He claims idling is
    not good on modern diesels because it can foul up the DPF
    (diesel particulate filter).-a I guess these things do a
    regeneration cycle as needed, but it is done only at a fully
    warmed up engine and while actually driving.-a I guess it gets
    hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it
    for a spin and see if the damn lights go off.-a Would be nice if
    that's all it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.


    If you don't have a very very long beautiful extension cord, how
    about a solar battery maintainer?

    Something like this?


    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an outlet
    outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend has a large
    backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has been using one on for
    the last two years and it even keeps that big battery charged up and
    will start in the winter after not being used for long periods. No
    electric where he keeps it. His is permanently mounted and on all
    the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries up, but I
    had that switch off since I was starting it every week. Guess I'll
    turn that back on and then get something for the engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar battery
    chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you need. I'm not
    very good with electrical things like that.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Thu Feb 6 23:22:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/5/2025 3:46 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 1/27/2025 1:31 PM, sticks wrote:
    Been just starting the RV up on Sundays to keep the batteries
    charged and I usually just let it warm up and run for about 20 minutes.-a Last weekend the damn check engine light was on
    again. Put the OBD2 reader on it and sure as hell there is 2
    new faults showing up.-a I'll have to take it back to the shop
    I guess.-a Yeah, these damn Mercedes are very impressive.

    Talked to the service guy at Mercedes today. He's got me thinking
    that it just might be the idling that has caused this error.
    This is the first diesel I've had that uses DEF and has all that newfangled emission stuff. He claims idling is not good on
    modern diesels because it can foul up the DPF (diesel particulate filter). I guess these things do a regeneration cycle as needed,
    but it is done only at a fully warmed up engine and while
    actually driving. I guess it gets hot as hell.

    So, I guess when I get a chance I'll pull it out and take it for a
    spin and see if the damn lights go off. Would be nice if that's
    all it is.

    Also gotta figure out a way to get a battery tender out there.

    Yes, ran into an article on diesels. Partly polution related (very slanted) but it did mention that they don't do well on idle. The
    fellow was recommending a law that diesels not be allowed to idle
    more than some short time (2 minites? We have lights longer than
    that here). They wanted them to turn it off then restart. Problem
    came up that that costs more gas than idling.

    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is that
    it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this automatically
    as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like me, don't even know
    about it. Seems like there should be a little more information given
    to the customer since if you do what I did the check engine light
    come on and you have to haul the RV to the dealer if you don't know
    what is going on, when all you have to do is just run the thing for
    an hour or so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light come on
    if it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to take it in and do
    a forced on. I guess I'll find out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone? Might be take
    'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes out, park it then test 7
    days later?
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Thu Feb 6 17:45:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/6/2025 5:18 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:


    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an outlet
    outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend has a large
    backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has been using one on for
    the last two years and it even keeps that big battery charged up and
    will start in the winter after not being used for long periods. No
    electric where he keeps it. His is permanently mounted and on all
    the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries up, but I
    had that switch off since I was starting it every week. Guess I'll
    turn that back on and then get something for the engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you need. I'm not
    very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night. Thanks for
    posting that! Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how since
    they haven't shipped it yet.
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Thu Feb 6 17:51:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/6/2025 5:22 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is that
    it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this automatically
    as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like me, don't even know
    about it. Seems like there should be a little more information given
    to the customer since if you do what I did the check engine light
    come on and you have to haul the RV to the dealer if you don't know
    what is going on, when all you have to do is just run the thing for
    an hour or so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light come on
    if it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to take it in and do
    a forced on. I guess I'll find out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone? Might be take
    'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes out, park it then test 7
    days later?

    I've read contradicting stuff on this. Gonna put the solar charger on
    it and wait to take it out until next week sometime. They say you can
    tell by the sound for one, they say it growls more, and idle even goes
    up. I have to check in the setting as there might be a page that tells
    you the % it is at. Would be nice if you could turn that on the screen,
    go for a drive and watch it go down.

    I'll let y'all know how it goes.
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
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  • From Ted Heise@theise@panix.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 14:37:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:45:40 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 2/6/2025 5:18 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:


    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an
    outlet outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend
    has a large backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has
    been using one on for the last two years and it even keeps
    that big battery charged up and will start in the winter
    after not being used for long periods. No electric where he
    keeps it. His is permanently mounted and on all the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries
    up, but I had that switch off since I was starting it every
    week. Guess I'll turn that back on and then get something
    for the engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar
    battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you
    need. I'm not very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night.
    Thanks for posting that!

    Oh this looks interesting. I wonder if it would be at all able to
    build up charge in my lithium ion battery. Do keep us posted on
    how it works, please.


    ...Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how
    since they haven't shipped it yet.

    We were in St. Louis visiting kids for the NYE holiday, and I was
    almost out of filters for my Aeropress coffee maker. Could not
    find them in the local stores nearby, so I looked on Amazon. They
    indicated I could get it delivered same day (this was early
    afternoon), so I ordered some just to see if they could actually
    do it (we were only staying another day or two). They did. I
    think it comes down mostly to whether there is a warehouse nearby.
    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA
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  • From George.Anthony@ganthony@gmail.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 14:54:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:45:40 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 2/6/2025 5:18 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:


    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an
    outlet outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend
    has a large backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has
    been using one on for the last two years and it even keeps
    that big battery charged up and will start in the winter
    after not being used for long periods. No electric where he
    keeps it. His is permanently mounted and on all the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries
    up, but I had that switch off since I was starting it every
    week. Guess I'll turn that back on and then get something
    for the engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar
    battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you
    need. I'm not very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night.
    Thanks for posting that!

    Oh this looks interesting. I wonder if it would be at all able to
    build up charge in my lithium ion battery. Do keep us posted on
    how it works, please.


    ...Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how
    since they haven't shipped it yet.

    We were in St. Louis visiting kids for the NYE holiday, and I was
    almost out of filters for my Aeropress coffee maker. Could not
    find them in the local stores nearby, so I looked on Amazon. They
    indicated I could get it delivered same day (this was early
    afternoon), so I ordered some just to see if they could actually
    do it (we were only staying another day or two). They did. I
    think it comes down mostly to whether there is a warehouse nearby.


    As big as those warehouses are, I donrCOt see how they even get it out in one day.
    --
    Biden has no idea what he is doing but herCOs really, really good at it.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 08:54:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/7/2025 8:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:45:40 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar
    battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you
    need. I'm not very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night.
    Thanks for posting that!

    Oh this looks interesting. I wonder if it would be at all able to
    build up charge in my lithium ion battery. Do keep us posted on
    how it works, please.

    I'm sure they can as you can put lithium in the RV. You do then have to
    go and change your battery type at the control panel. There must be
    some way of telling it what type of battery you're using, but I think it
    might be something either more expensive or an additional thing like and inverter. I'm gonna look into it a bit.


    ...Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how
    since they haven't shipped it yet.

    We were in St. Louis visiting kids for the NYE holiday, and I was
    almost out of filters for my Aeropress coffee maker. Could not
    find them in the local stores nearby, so I looked on Amazon. They
    indicated I could get it delivered same day (this was early
    afternoon), so I ordered some just to see if they could actually
    do it (we were only staying another day or two). They did. I
    think it comes down mostly to whether there is a warehouse nearby.

    It's crazy, checked this morning and it's already at the local PO at 5AM
    and supposed to be here today. Free Shipping....crazy.
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ted Heise@theise@panix.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 15:13:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 08:54:42 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 8:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:45:40 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar
    battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you
    need. I'm not very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night.
    Thanks for posting that!

    Oh this looks interesting. I wonder if it would be at all able to
    build up charge in my lithium ion battery. Do keep us posted on
    how it works, please.

    I'm sure they can as you can put lithium in the RV. You do then have to
    go and change your battery type at the control panel. There must be
    some way of telling it what type of battery you're using, but I think it
    might be something either more expensive or an additional thing like and
    inverter. I'm gonna look into it a bit.

    Yeah, the trailer is set up for the LI, it took only the flip of a
    dip switch on the controller board. I have the battery at home in
    the garage, based mostly on advice I've read to disconnect for
    storage and to top off the charge from time to time.

    Interestingly, in the roughly four months it's been in the garage,
    the SOC has held rock steady at 98%. I had expected it to drop a
    fair bit over time, but it hasn't at all.
    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 10:40:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/7/2025 8:54 AM, sticks wrote:

    Oh this looks interesting.-a I wonder if it would be at all able to
    build up charge in my lithium ion battery.-a Do keep us posted on
    how it works, please.

    I'm sure they can as you can put lithium in the RV.-a You do then have to
    go and change your battery type at the control panel.-a There must be
    some way of telling it what type of battery you're using, but I think it might be something either more expensive or an additional thing like and inverter.-a I'm gonna look into it a bit.

    Looks like a solar panel alone does not work and you need a controller.

    <https://shopsolarkits.com/blogs/learning-center/how-to-charge-lithium-ion-battery-with-solar-panel>
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 19:08:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:22 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is
    that it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this
    automatically as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like me,
    don't even know about it. Seems like there should be a little
    more information given to the customer since if you do what I did
    the check engine light come on and you have to haul the RV to the
    dealer if you don't know what is going on, when all you have to
    do is just run the thing for an hour or so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light come
    on if it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to take it in
    and do a forced on. I guess I'll find out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone? Might be
    take 'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes out, park it then
    test 7 days later?

    I've read contradicting stuff on this. Gonna put the solar charger
    on it and wait to take it out until next week sometime. They say you
    can tell by the sound for one, they say it growls more, and idle even
    goes up. I have to check in the setting as there might be a page
    that tells you the % it is at. Would be nice if you could turn that
    on the screen, go for a drive and watch it go down.

    I'll let y'all know how it goes.

    We have an external charger (runs off a cord in the house, doesn't help
    you) but it shows the % charged on it's screen.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 19:16:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:18 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:



    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an outlet
    outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend has a large
    backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has been using one on
    for the last two years and it even keeps that big battery charged
    up and will start in the winter after not being used for long
    periods. No electric where he keeps it. His is permanently
    mounted and on all the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries up,
    but I had that switch off since I was starting it every week.
    Guess I'll turn that back on and then get something for the
    engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you need. I'm not
    very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night. Thanks for
    posting that! Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how
    since they haven't shipped it yet.

    Amazon checks local stoage inventory then comes back with shipping info
    in the estimate. It's pretty accurate. Virginia Beach is finishing
    off building a huge storage set of buildings to support Hampton roads
    area. It's already partially in operation. A lot of stuff is now
    arriving next day,

    I think I linked a 12v. It it doesn't work, save the packaging (box
    and all) and you can return it for free. (here, they pickup at my
    house). Then get the 24V unit. It may have a different solar panel at
    the 24V level. Be sure to park in a sunny spot (not under a leafy
    tree, but you probably knew that! grin).
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 20:10:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    Ted Heise wrote:

    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:45:40 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 2/6/2025 5:18 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:



    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an
    outlet outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend
    has a large backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has
    been using one on for the last two years and it even keeps
    that big battery charged up and will start in the winter
    after not being used for long periods. No electric where he
    keeps it. His is permanently mounted and on all the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries
    up, but I had that switch off since I was starting it every
    week. Guess I'll turn that back on and then get something
    for the engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar
    battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you
    need. I'm not very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night.
    Thanks for posting that!

    Oh this looks interesting. I wonder if it would be at all able to
    build up charge in my lithium ion battery. Do keep us posted on
    how it works, please.


    ...Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how
    since they haven't shipped it yet.

    We were in St. Louis visiting kids for the NYE holiday, and I was
    almost out of filters for my Aeropress coffee maker. Could not
    find them in the local stores nearby, so I looked on Amazon. They
    indicated I could get it delivered same day (this was early
    afternoon), so I ordered some just to see if they could actually
    do it (we were only staying another day or two). They did. I
    think it comes down mostly to whether there is a warehouse nearby.

    Drool!

    <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V4844F4/ref=emc_bcc_2_i?th=1>

    Lots of stuff out there! Note 30-45 degree in normal use position.
    Flat when driving (or wind damage will be expected). I like the shed
    picture.

    I gather an 'inverter' is needed to shift from DC to AC (outlets we all
    have in our houses). I'm a noob at this but I read conversations on it
    and tried to make sense of them.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 21:07:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/7/2025 8:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:45:40 -0600,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar
    battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you
    need. I'm not very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night.
    Thanks for posting that!

    Oh this looks interesting. I wonder if it would be at all able to
    build up charge in my lithium ion battery. Do keep us posted on
    how it works, please.

    I'm sure they can as you can put lithium in the RV. You do then have
    to go and change your battery type at the control panel. There must
    be some way of telling it what type of battery you're using, but I
    think it might be something either more expensive or an additional
    thing like and inverter. I'm gonna look into it a bit.


    ...Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how
    since they haven't shipped it yet.

    We were in St. Louis visiting kids for the NYE holiday, and I was
    almost out of filters for my Aeropress coffee maker. Could not
    find them in the local stores nearby, so I looked on Amazon. They indicated I could get it delivered same day (this was early
    afternoon), so I ordered some just to see if they could actually
    do it (we were only staying another day or two). They did. I
    think it comes down mostly to whether there is a warehouse nearby.

    It's crazy, checked this morning and it's already at the local PO at
    5AM and supposed to be here today. Free Shipping....crazy.

    I'm pretty sure Inverters take in DC (direct current aka from solar)
    and turn it into AC (alternating current) for use with household
    appliances etc. I don't think it has anything to do with battery type?

    DC= the cigarette lighter plug in older cars. Your car won't have an
    AC plug but youur RV probably does. Today's cars also are apt to have
    USB chargers.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 15:46:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/7/2025 1:08 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:22 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is
    that it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this
    automatically as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like me,
    don't even know about it. Seems like there should be a little
    more information given to the customer since if you do what I did
    the check engine light come on and you have to haul the RV to the
    dealer if you don't know what is going on, when all you have to
    do is just run the thing for an hour or so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light come
    on if it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to take it in
    and do a forced on. I guess I'll find out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone? Might be
    take 'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes out, park it then
    test 7 days later?

    I've read contradicting stuff on this. Gonna put the solar charger
    on it and wait to take it out until next week sometime. They say you
    can tell by the sound for one, they say it growls more, and idle even
    goes up. I have to check in the setting as there might be a page
    that tells you the % it is at. Would be nice if you could turn that
    on the screen, go for a drive and watch it go down.

    I'll let y'all know how it goes.

    We have an external charger (runs off a cord in the house, doesn't help
    you) but it shows the % charged on it's screen.

    No, not the battery, the % of full the filter is at. In the shop I know
    you can watch it go down to zero. We'll see next week if the screen
    comes up for it inside the RV
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Feb 7 15:49:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/7/2025 1:16 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:18 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:



    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an outlet
    outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend has a large
    backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has been using one on
    for the last two years and it even keeps that big battery charged
    up and will start in the winter after not being used for long
    periods. No electric where he keeps it. His is permanently
    mounted and on all the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries up,
    but I had that switch off since I was starting it every week.
    Guess I'll turn that back on and then get something for the
    engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar battery
    chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you need. I'm not
    very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night. Thanks for
    posting that! Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see how
    since they haven't shipped it yet.

    Amazon checks local stoage inventory then comes back with shipping info
    in the estimate. It's pretty accurate. Virginia Beach is finishing
    off building a huge storage set of buildings to support Hampton roads
    area. It's already partially in operation. A lot of stuff is now
    arriving next day,

    I think I linked a 12v. It it doesn't work, save the packaging (box
    and all) and you can return it for free. (here, they pickup at my
    house). Then get the 24V unit. It may have a different solar panel at
    the 24V level. Be sure to park in a sunny spot (not under a leafy
    tree, but you probably knew that! grin).

    Just got it today! I don't need 24 volt, my friend does for the
    backhoe. The View RV is a regular 12 volt system. Gonna play with it tomorrow.
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Mon Feb 10 02:28:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/7/2025 1:08 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:22 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is
    that it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this automatically as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like
    me, don't even know about it. Seems like there should be a
    little more information given to the customer since if you do
    what I did the check engine light come on and you have to
    haul the RV to the dealer if you don't know what is going on,
    when all you have to do is just run the thing for an hour or
    so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light
    come on if it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to
    take it in and do a forced on. I guess I'll find out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone? Might
    be take 'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes out, park it
    then test 7 days later?

    I've read contradicting stuff on this. Gonna put the solar
    charger on it and wait to take it out until next week sometime.
    They say you can tell by the sound for one, they say it growls
    more, and idle even goes up. I have to check in the setting as
    there might be a page that tells you the % it is at. Would be
    nice if you could turn that on the screen, go for a drive and
    watch it go down.

    I'll let y'all know how it goes.

    We have an external charger (runs off a cord in the house, doesn't
    help you) but it shows the % charged on it's screen.

    No, not the battery, the % of full the filter is at. In the shop I
    know you can watch it go down to zero. We'll see next week if the
    screen comes up for it inside the RV

    I'm sorry. You lost me on 'filter'?
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Mon Feb 10 15:51:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/7/2025 1:16 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:18 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:




    <https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Backup-Alligator-Adapter/dp/B017K6PH1S/>

    Saw a lot of different voltages.

    I'm leaning toward getting one of these as I don't have an
    outlet outside over on that side of the house yet. A friend
    has a large backhoe with a big 24 volt battery that he has
    been using one on for the last two years and it even keeps
    that big battery charged up and will start in the winter
    after not being used for long periods. No electric where he
    keeps it. His is permanently mounted and on all the time.

    I do have the solar charger that keeps the house batteries up,
    but I had that switch off since I was starting it every week.
    Guess I'll turn that back on and then get something for the
    engine battery soon.

    Ok! I'm sure I saw 12v and 24v units with a google on solar
    battery chargers. I don't know if a 12v or a 24v is what you
    need. I'm not very good with electrical things like that.

    I actually bought the one you linked to above last night. Thanks
    for posting that! Supposed to be here tomorrow, but I don't see
    how since they haven't shipped it yet.

    Amazon checks local stoage inventory then comes back with shipping
    info in the estimate. It's pretty accurate. Virginia Beach is
    finishing off building a huge storage set of buildings to support
    Hampton roads area. It's already partially in operation. A lot of
    stuff is now arriving next day,

    I think I linked a 12v. It it doesn't work, save the packaging (box
    and all) and you can return it for free. (here, they pickup at my
    house). Then get the 24V unit. It may have a different solar
    panel at the 24V level. Be sure to park in a sunny spot (not under
    a leafy tree, but you probably knew that! grin).

    Just got it today! I don't need 24 volt, my friend does for the
    backhoe. The View RV is a regular 12 volt system. Gonna play with
    it tomorrow.

    Life is good!
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Mon Feb 10 13:58:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/9/2025 8:28 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/7/2025 1:08 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:22 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is
    that it needs a regeneration. I guess they kind of do this
    automatically as often as every 500 miles. Most people, like
    me, don't even know about it. Seems like there should be a
    little more information given to the customer since if you do
    what I did the check engine light come on and you have to
    haul the RV to the dealer if you don't know what is going on,
    when all you have to do is just run the thing for an hour or
    so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light
    come on if it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to
    take it in and do a forced on. I guess I'll find out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone? Might
    be take 'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes out, park it
    then test 7 days later?

    I've read contradicting stuff on this. Gonna put the solar
    charger on it and wait to take it out until next week sometime.
    They say you can tell by the sound for one, they say it growls
    more, and idle even goes up. I have to check in the setting as
    there might be a page that tells you the % it is at. Would be
    nice if you could turn that on the screen, go for a drive and
    watch it go down.

    I'll let y'all know how it goes.

    We have an external charger (runs off a cord in the house, doesn't
    help you) but it shows the % charged on it's screen.

    No, not the battery, the % of full the filter is at. In the shop I
    know you can watch it go down to zero. We'll see next week if the
    screen comes up for it inside the RV

    I'm sorry. You lost me on 'filter'?

    Mentioned a little earlier in the thread. It's called the DPF or diesel particulate filter. The EPA mandates these things and emissions now in
    diesel engines. Hopefully, they get a little better working soon.

    Yesterday, I did manage to take it out and drove about 90 miles. When I started it up, the check engine light was out. Well that's cool, I
    thought. So I drove it down a road that had 55 MPH speed limit and no
    stops at all. To keep the RPM's over 2000, I had to keep it in 8th gear
    (it has 9) and this kept it at 2250 RPM. This should have been enough
    to start the regeneration cycle on the DPF. I could not tell if it did
    it or not. Never noticed the exhaust noise change, or engine temps go up.

    The check engine stayed out and after 45 miles I turned around. Almost
    as soon as I was heading home this message pops up on the dashboard.

    <https://i.postimg.cc/D00jpQ8p/Message.jpg>

    What's crazy is it is a DEF warning, and just below it is the DEF gauge
    and as you can see it is still over half way full. I got almost 2000
    miles and this is still the original level of fluid in there. So I now
    have 10 engine start before it won't go any more. So now I have no
    choice, it has to go in for service. Under warranty still, but a 60
    mile drive to get it there.

    I also read to try and avoid this warning from coning up, you should top
    it off after every other fill up. I will definitely be doing that. It
    would be a nightmare if this happened to you a couple thousand miles
    away from home in the middle of a trip.
    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!
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  • From bfh@redydog@rye.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Mon Feb 10 16:39:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:
    On 2/9/2025 8:28 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/7/2025 1:08 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:22 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the problem is
    that it needs a regeneration.-a I guess they kind of do this
    automatically as often as every 500 miles.-a Most people, like
    me, don't even know about it.-a Seems like there should be a
    little more information given to the customer since if you do
    what I did the check engine light come on and you have to
    haul the RV to the dealer if you don't know what is going on,
    when all you have to do is just run the thing for an hour or
    so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine light
    come on if it will do an automatic regen, or if you have to
    take it in and do a forced on.-a I guess I'll find out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone?-a Might
    be take 'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes out, park it
    then test 7 days later?

    I've read contradicting stuff on this.-a Gonna put the solar
    charger on it and wait to take it out until next week sometime.
    They say you can tell by the sound for one, they say it growls
    more, and idle even goes up.-a I have to check in the setting as
    there might be a page that tells you the % it is at.-a Would be
    nice if you could turn that on the screen, go for a drive and
    watch it go down.

    I'll let y'all know how it goes.

    We have an external charger (runs off a cord in the house, doesn't
    help you) but it shows the % charged on it's screen.

    No, not the battery, the % of full the filter is at.-a In the shop I
    know you can watch it go down to zero.-a We'll see next week if the
    screen comes up for it inside the RV

    I'm sorry.-a You lost me on 'filter'?

    Mentioned a little earlier in the thread.-a It's called the DPF or
    diesel particulate filter.-a The EPA mandates these things and
    emissions now in diesel engines.-a Hopefully, they get a little better working soon.

    Yesterday, I did manage to take it out and drove about 90 miles.-a When
    I started it up, the check engine light was out.-a Well that's cool, I thought.-a So I drove it down a road that had 55 MPH speed limit and no stops at all.-a To keep the RPM's over 2000, I had to keep it in 8th
    gear (it has 9) and this kept it at 2250 RPM.-a This should have been
    enough to start the regeneration cycle on the DPF.-a I could not tell
    if it did it or not.-a Never noticed the exhaust noise change, or
    engine temps go up.

    The check engine stayed out and after 45 miles I turned around.
    Almost as soon as I was heading home this message pops up on the
    dashboard.

    <https://i.postimg.cc/D00jpQ8p/Message.jpg>

    Does that say Emerg. Op? If so, what is that? Does an Emerg Op still
    op? Or does it not op at all?

    What's crazy is it is a DEF warning, and just below it is the DEF
    gauge and as you can see it is still over half way full.-a I got almost
    2000 miles and this is still the original level of fluid in there.-a So
    I now have 10 engine start before it won't go any more.-a So now I have
    no choice, it has to go in for service.-a Under warranty still, but a
    60 mile drive to get it there.

    I also read to try and avoid this warning from coning up, you should
    top it off after every other fill up.-a I will definitely be doing
    that.-a It would be a nightmare if this happened to you a couple
    thousand miles away from home in the middle of a trip.

    I allege that diesels - like many other things and services - may have
    fallen victim to enshittification.

    -------------------------------------------------
    Enshittification is a term used to describe the gradual decline in the
    quality of online products and services. It can also refer to the deterioration of any service or product over time ----------------------------------------------------
    And in this case, probably due to gummit regulation.
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  • From Carol@cshenk@virginia-beach.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Mon Feb 10 22:38:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks wrote:

    On 2/9/2025 8:28 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/7/2025 1:08 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 5:22 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    After a little more research I'm fairly certain the
    problem is that it needs a regeneration. I guess they
    kind of do this automatically as often as every 500
    miles. Most people, like me, don't even know about it.
    Seems like there should be a little more information
    given to the customer since if you do what I did the
    check engine light come on and you have to haul the RV to
    the dealer if you don't know what is going on, when all
    you have to do is just run the thing for an hour or so.

    I'm still a little uncertain if once the check engine
    light come on if it will do an automatic regen, or if you
    have to take it in and do a forced on. I guess I'll find
    out.

    Seems they should be able to answer that over the phone?
    Might be take 'er for a spin for an hour then if it goes
    out, park it then test 7 days later?

    I've read contradicting stuff on this. Gonna put the solar
    charger on it and wait to take it out until next week
    sometime. They say you can tell by the sound for one, they
    say it growls more, and idle even goes up. I have to check
    in the setting as there might be a page that tells you the %
    it is at. Would be nice if you could turn that on the
    screen, go for a drive and watch it go down.

    I'll let y'all know how it goes.

    We have an external charger (runs off a cord in the house,
    doesn't help you) but it shows the % charged on it's screen.

    No, not the battery, the % of full the filter is at. In the shop
    I know you can watch it go down to zero. We'll see next week if
    the screen comes up for it inside the RV

    I'm sorry. You lost me on 'filter'?

    Mentioned a little earlier in the thread. It's called the DPF or
    diesel particulate filter. The EPA mandates these things and
    emissions now in diesel engines. Hopefully, they get a little better
    working soon.

    Yesterday, I did manage to take it out and drove about 90 miles.
    When I started it up, the check engine light was out. Well that's
    cool, I thought. So I drove it down a road that had 55 MPH speed
    limit and no stops at all. To keep the RPM's over 2000, I had to
    keep it in 8th gear (it has 9) and this kept it at 2250 RPM. This
    should have been enough to start the regeneration cycle on the DPF.
    I could not tell if it did it or not. Never noticed the exhaust
    noise change, or engine temps go up.

    The check engine stayed out and after 45 miles I turned around.
    Almost as soon as I was heading home this message pops up on the
    dashboard.

    <https://i.postimg.cc/D00jpQ8p/Message.jpg>

    What's crazy is it is a DEF warning, and just below it is the DEF
    gauge and as you can see it is still over half way full. I got
    almost 2000 miles and this is still the original level of fluid in
    there. So I now have 10 engine start before it won't go any more.
    So now I have no choice, it has to go in for service. Under warranty
    still, but a 60 mile drive to get it there.

    I also read to try and avoid this warning from coning up, you should
    top it off after every other fill up. I will definitely be doing
    that. It would be a nightmare if this happened to you a couple
    thousand miles away from home in the middle of a trip.

    Ouch. ok.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Mon Feb 10 16:54:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/10/2025 3:39 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    ---snip---
    The check engine stayed out and after 45 miles I turned around. Almost
    as soon as I was heading home this message pops up on the dashboard.

    <https://i.postimg.cc/D00jpQ8p/Message.jpg>

    Does that say Emerg. Op? If so, what is that? Does an Emerg Op still op?
    Or does it not-a op at all?

    It goes into limp mode which I've read conflicting reports on it having
    a top speed of 5mph, and one place I saw 25 mph. That's painful shit.

    What's crazy is it is a DEF warning, and just below it is the DEF
    gauge and as you can see it is still over half way full.-a I got almost
    2000 miles and this is still the original level of fluid in there.-a So
    I now have 10 engine start before it won't go any more.-a So now I have
    no choice, it has to go in for service.-a Under warranty still, but a
    60 mile drive to get it there.

    I also read to try and avoid this warning from coning up, you should
    top it off after every other fill up.-a I will definitely be doing
    that.-a It would be a nightmare if this happened to you a couple
    thousand miles away from home in the middle of a trip.

    I allege that diesels - like many other things and services - may have fallen victim to enshittification.

    -------------------------------------------------
    Enshittification is a term used to describe the gradual decline in the quality of online products and services. It can also refer to the deterioration of any service or product over time ----------------------------------------------------
    And in this case, probably due to gummit regulation.

    Spot on! They were getting so much better on their own, but this
    emissions stuff has forced some ugly consequences in the implementation.
    I still am glad I went with the diesel, but it obviously is going to
    be expensive and I have to get the kinks all worked out and be sure how
    it all works.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Wed Mar 12 18:04:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    On 2/10/2025 4:54 PM, sticks wrote:

    Spot on!-a They were getting so much better on their own, but this
    emissions stuff has forced some ugly consequences in the implementation.
    -aI still am glad I went with the diesel, but it obviously is going to
    be expensive and I have to get the kinks all worked out and be sure how
    it all works.

    I took it up to Madison today and they got it fixed. Evidently, it had
    a faulty Diesel Particulate Filter Sensor. Replaced that, erased codes,
    and said it did not need a forced DPF regeneration. I think it's kind
    of like the flame sensor on a furnace. Just more one wonderful new
    emissions control module that can kick your ass when you're not looking.

    We'll see how long until the light comes back on again.......
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    Darwinism Is Junk Science!!
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  • From George.Anthony@ganthony@gmail.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Mar 14 15:23:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 2/10/2025 4:54 PM, sticks wrote:

    Spot on!-a They were getting so much better on their own, but this
    emissions stuff has forced some ugly consequences in the implementation.
    -aI still am glad I went with the diesel, but it obviously is going to
    be expensive and I have to get the kinks all worked out and be sure how
    it all works.

    I took it up to Madison today and they got it fixed. Evidently, it had
    a faulty Diesel Particulate Filter Sensor. Replaced that, erased codes,
    and said it did not need a forced DPF regeneration. I think it's kind
    of like the flame sensor on a furnace. Just more one wonderful new emissions control module that can kick your ass when you're not looking.

    We'll see how long until the light comes back on again.......



    If it does you can just wait until the bulb burns out.
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  • From bfh@redydog@rye.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Fri Mar 14 14:52:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.outdoors.rv-travel

    George.Anthony wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 2/10/2025 4:54 PM, sticks wrote:

    Spot on!|e-a They were getting so much better on their own, but this
    emissions stuff has forced some ugly consequences in the implementation. >>> |e-aI still am glad I went with the diesel, but it obviously is going to >>> be expensive and I have to get the kinks all worked out and be sure how
    it all works.

    I took it up to Madison today and they got it fixed. Evidently, it had
    a faulty Diesel Particulate Filter Sensor. Replaced that, erased codes,
    and said it did not need a forced DPF regeneration. I think it's kind
    of like the flame sensor on a furnace. Just more one wonderful new
    emissions control module that can kick your ass when you're not looking.

    We'll see how long until the light comes back on again.......



    If it does you can just wait until the bulb burns out.

    Probably still go into Getoutandwalk mode.
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    bill
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