• Utah Day 2

    From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 6 06:50:42 2025
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    Following our plan of hiking one day and off-roading the next, we headed toward Escalante, Utah to drive the Hole In The Rock Trail and see Lake
    Powell at the southern end in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National
    Monument. This is almost entirely BLM land and is a nice way to spend
    the day. You get the feeling of the vastness of the area when going
    thru it. It just feels big.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ltfyk0wfvn4vgf0ca1m7c/Views1.JPG?rlkey=11g4svo5fbiwlkh2aw0gbqoal&dl=0>

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/annjlf8afn6w4y61v8qft/Views2.JPG?rlkey=rxkh2x1mtl55vxsj380oqg2cn&dl=0>

    Though quite a famous trail or road if you will, it is not a very
    technical off-road route, with the possible exception of the last 10
    miles or so. This road can be done in most pickups, 4x4 when it gets
    wet is needed as it all turns to a muddy mess. It turned out to be a
    great place to let the wife try her hand behind the wheel off-roading.
    I drove out and let her drive back. So she got her first 58 miles
    driving her Bronco on something other than pavement. She scared the
    hell out of me, to be honest.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/llnrz1ily5ulwvo2bqnn4/Hole1.JPG?rlkey=vogp9brkhw7nykibsxbp82ft8&dl=0>

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sqeor37sd4uva1cltctgn/Hole2.JPG?rlkey=cjwea08hdj0tvtgwvze0xkmd3&dl=0>

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dt5eueampzlsn30sli6zb/Hole-In-The-Rock-Track.jpg?rlkey=3ars9117fqokuppk10sz6cnc8&dl=0>

    This road was built by the Mormons and they actually carved this
    existing narrow hole in the rock opening they found and traversed
    carriages down to the bottom. The road portion ends here, but you can
    hike the trail that eventually ends in Bluff, Utah where we stayed for
    the second part of this trip.

    One thing we saw that bothered us was a van parked out in an area which
    we figured its occupants must be hiking. The window was knocked out
    just behind the drivers door and you had to wonder if someone had broken
    it to get in and steal things. We did see a couple boon-dockers at the beginning of the trail, but after a few miles it was only cattle. Not
    many, just a few here and there.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/l2pnrakq57llb8ubilfu8/VanWithBrokenWindow.JPG?rlkey=g5kcr99s39nxtqa2bfmvschrv&dl=0>

    All in all, it was nice to have a relaxing day that ended early enough
    for a steak on the grill, campfire, and a good nights rest. I would
    need that as we had a much harder hike planned for the next day.
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  • From George.Anthony@ganthony@gmail.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 6 17:37:02 2025
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    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    Following our plan of hiking one day and off-roading the next, we headed toward Escalante, Utah to drive the Hole In The Rock Trail and see Lake Powell at the southern end in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. This is almost entirely BLM land and is a nice way to spend
    the day. You get the feeling of the vastness of the area when going
    thru it. It just feels big.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ltfyk0wfvn4vgf0ca1m7c/Views1.JPG?rlkey=11g4svo5fbiwlkh2aw0gbqoal&dl=0>

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/annjlf8afn6w4y61v8qft/Views2.JPG?rlkey=rxkh2x1mtl55vxsj380oqg2cn&dl=0>

    Though quite a famous trail or road if you will, it is not a very
    technical off-road route, with the possible exception of the last 10
    miles or so. This road can be done in most pickups, 4x4 when it gets
    wet is needed as it all turns to a muddy mess. It turned out to be a
    great place to let the wife try her hand behind the wheel off-roading.
    I drove out and let her drive back. So she got her first 58 miles
    driving her Bronco on something other than pavement. She scared the
    hell out of me, to be honest.

    Hah! BTDT.


    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/llnrz1ily5ulwvo2bqnn4/Hole1.JPG?rlkey=vogp9brkhw7nykibsxbp82ft8&dl=0>

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sqeor37sd4uva1cltctgn/Hole2.JPG?rlkey=cjwea08hdj0tvtgwvze0xkmd3&dl=0>

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dt5eueampzlsn30sli6zb/Hole-In-The-Rock-Track.jpg?rlkey=3ars9117fqokuppk10sz6cnc8&dl=0>

    This road was built by the Mormons and they actually carved this
    existing narrow hole in the rock opening they found and traversed
    carriages down to the bottom. The road portion ends here, but you can
    hike the trail that eventually ends in Bluff, Utah where we stayed for
    the second part of this trip.

    One thing we saw that bothered us was a van parked out in an area which
    we figured its occupants must be hiking. The window was knocked out
    just behind the drivers door and you had to wonder if someone had broken
    it to get in and steal things. We did see a couple boon-dockers at the beginning of the trail, but after a few miles it was only cattle. Not
    many, just a few here and there.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/l2pnrakq57llb8ubilfu8/VanWithBrokenWindow.JPG?rlkey=g5kcr99s39nxtqa2bfmvschrv&dl=0>

    All in all, it was nice to have a relaxing day that ended early enough
    for a steak on the grill, campfire, and a good nights rest. I would
    need that as we had a much harder hike planned for the next day.





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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Sat May 10 15:42:47 2025
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    On 5/6/2025 12:37 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Though quite a famous trail or road if you will, it is not a very
    technical off-road route, with the possible exception of the last 10
    miles or so. This road can be done in most pickups, 4x4 when it gets
    wet is needed as it all turns to a muddy mess. It turned out to be a
    great place to let the wife try her hand behind the wheel off-roading.
    I drove out and let her drive back. So she got her first 58 miles
    driving her Bronco on something other than pavement. She scared the
    hell out of me, to be honest.

    Hah! BTDT.

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the wife
    learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV?rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>
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  • From bfh@redydog@rye.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Sat May 10 16:58:17 2025
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    sticks wrote:
    On 5/6/2025 12:37 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Though quite a famous trail or road if you will, it is not a very
    technical off-road route, with the possible exception of the last 10
    miles or so.-a This road can be done in most pickups, 4x4 when it gets
    wet is needed as it all turns to a muddy mess.-a It turned out to be a
    great place to let the wife try her hand behind the wheel off-roading.
    I drove out and let her drive back.-a So she got her first 58 miles
    driving her Bronco on something other than pavement.-a She scared the
    hell out of me, to be honest.

    Hah! BTDT.

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the wife
    learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV?rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>


    How have you got that camera mounted - or held? You and the Bronco are
    jumping around, but the landscape is steady
    as...........ummm........rocks. And your wife looks like she's driving OK.
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    bill
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  • From Ted Heise@theise@panix.com to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Sun May 11 18:48:58 2025
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    On Sat, 10 May 2025 15:42:47 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 5/6/2025 12:37 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Though quite a famous trail or road if you will, it is not a
    very technical off-road route, with the possible exception of
    the last 10 miles or so. This road can be done in most
    pickups, 4x4 when it gets wet is needed as it all turns to a
    muddy mess. It turned out to be a great place to let the
    wife try her hand behind the wheel off-roading. I drove out
    and let her drive back. So she got her first 58 miles
    driving her Bronco on something other than pavement. She
    scared the hell out of me, to be honest.

    Hah! BTDT.

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the
    wife learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV?rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    Very interesting, thanks for posting it. FWIW, it didn't look any
    more challenging than the road to Grosvenor Arch we drove (part
    of) in my Acadia.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 13 08:46:02 2025
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    On 5/10/2025 3:58 PM, bfh wrote:

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the wife
    learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV?
    rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    How have you got that camera mounted - or held? You and the Bronco are jumping around, but the landscape is steady
    as...........ummm........rocks. And your wife looks like she's driving OK.

    Just holding it in my hand. It's probably rougher in real life than it
    looks, but we made it out alive.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 13 08:52:14 2025
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    On 5/11/2025 1:48 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 15:42:47 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 5/6/2025 12:37 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Though quite a famous trail or road if you will, it is not a
    very technical off-road route, with the possible exception of
    the last 10 miles or so. This road can be done in most
    pickups, 4x4 when it gets wet is needed as it all turns to a
    muddy mess. It turned out to be a great place to let the
    wife try her hand behind the wheel off-roading. I drove out
    and let her drive back. So she got her first 58 miles
    driving her Bronco on something other than pavement. She
    scared the hell out of me, to be honest.

    Hah! BTDT.

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the
    wife learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV?rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    Very interesting, thanks for posting it. FWIW, it didn't look any
    more challenging than the road to Grosvenor Arch we drove (part
    of) in my Acadia.

    Yeah, this road is pretty easy. The biggest hurdle I think is getting
    hung up. Longer wheelbases and lower clearance vehicles might have some difficulties. If you just slow down and pick your spots, most vehicles
    can do this one. No canyon switchbacks or sandy parts needing 4x4.
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  • From bfh@redydog@rye.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 13 11:58:42 2025
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    sticks wrote:
    On 5/10/2025 3:58 PM, bfh wrote:

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the
    wife learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV?
    rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    How have you got that camera mounted - or held? You and the Bronco
    are jumping around, but the landscape is steady
    as...........ummm........rocks. And your wife looks like she's
    driving OK.

    Just holding it in my hand.-a It's probably rougher in real life than
    it looks, but we made it out alive.

    Phone? Or something else?
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 13 11:33:03 2025
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    On 5/13/2025 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 5/10/2025 3:58 PM, bfh wrote:

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the wife
    learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV?
    rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    How have you got that camera mounted - or held? You and the Bronco
    are jumping around, but the landscape is steady
    as...........ummm........rocks. And your wife looks like she's
    driving OK.

    Just holding it in my hand.-a It's probably rougher in real life than
    it looks, but we made it out alive.

    Phone? Or something else?


    iPhone 16
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  • From bfh@redydog@rye.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 13 12:51:05 2025
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    sticks wrote:
    On 5/13/2025 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 5/10/2025 3:58 PM, bfh wrote:

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the
    wife learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/IMG_9458.MOV? >>>>> rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    How have you got that camera mounted - or held? You and the Bronco
    are jumping around, but the landscape is steady
    as...........ummm........rocks. And your wife looks like she's
    driving OK.

    Just holding it in my hand.|e-a It's probably rougher in real life
    than it looks, but we made it out alive.

    Phone? Or something else?


    iPhone 16

    I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around how the landscape
    stays stable while the Bronco - which you're riding in - moves around.
    I'm obviously missing something obvious.
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  • From sticks@wolverine01@charter.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 13 12:36:04 2025
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    On 5/13/2025 11:51 AM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 5/13/2025 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 5/10/2025 3:58 PM, bfh wrote:

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the
    wife learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/
    IMG_9458.MOV? rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    How have you got that camera mounted - or held? You and the Bronco
    are jumping around, but the landscape is steady
    as...........ummm........rocks. And your wife looks like she's
    driving OK.

    Just holding it in my hand.|e-a It's probably rougher in real life
    than it looks, but we made it out alive.

    Phone? Or something else?


    iPhone 16

    I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around how the landscape stays stable while the Bronco - which you're riding in - moves around. I'm obviously missing something obvious.

    You move your arm with the bumps. FWIW, holding the phone with two
    hands the picture gets harder to control for some reason. One hand
    allows you to "suck up" the bumps like a shock absorber better.
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  • From bfh@redydog@rye.net to rec.outdoors.rv-travel on Tue May 13 16:21:41 2025
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    sticks wrote:
    On 5/13/2025 11:51 AM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 5/13/2025 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 5/10/2025 3:58 PM, bfh wrote:

    Here's a video of the Hole in The Rock road with me helping the >>>>>>> wife learn how to handle the Bronco a little.

    <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gf9kcn2po4zl0qi56byll/
    IMG_9458.MOV? rlkey=iw2h2hsaqcqmqeslmdolh4t3f&dl=0>

    How have you got that camera mounted - or held? You and the
    Bronco are jumping around, but the landscape is steady
    as...........ummm........rocks. And your wife looks like she's
    driving OK.

    Just holding it in my hand.|arCU|e-a It's probably rougher in real
    life than it looks, but we made it out alive.

    Phone? Or something else?


    iPhone 16

    I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around how the landscape
    stays stable while the Bronco - which you're riding in - moves
    around. I'm obviously missing something obvious.

    You move your arm with the bumps.-a FWIW, holding the phone with two
    hands the picture gets harder to control for some reason.-a One hand
    allows you to "suck up" the bumps like a shock absorber better.
    Well, you've got a damfine suckupper.
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