• Re: What's "Youve Got To Hide Your Love Away" About, =?UTF-8?B?QW55d2F5Pw==?=

    From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Sat Feb 22 05:58:44 2025
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    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 18:37:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Wikipedia says:

    Lennon said of the song, "That's me in my Dylan period again. I am like
    a chameleon, influenced by whatever is going on. If Elvis can do it, I
    can do it. If the Everly Brothers can do it, me and Paul can. Same with Dylan." The song is an early example of John self-reflecting in his
    writing, which had begun with songs such as "I'm a Loser" in the summer
    of 1964. Lennon wrote the song at home, wanting another song for the
    film Help!. The song "is just basically John doing Dylan", Paul
    McCartney confirmed. The song is similar to a folkish strophic form and
    uses a Dylanesque acoustic guitar figure in compound duple time,
    normally committed to score in 6 8 or 12 8 time, with chiefly acoustic accompaniment, no backing voices and light percussion from brushed
    snare, tambourine and maraca. A flute, however, replaces the harmonica
    that Dylan typically used.

    The song's lyrics are ambiguous. Potentially, Lennon could have been referring to the fact that, as a Beatle, he was expected to keep the
    fact he was married a secret. He could also have been writing about his inability to express his true 'loving' self in public and his feelings
    of isolation and paranoia related to fame. Some, such as singer Tom
    Robinson, have suggested that the song was written for the Beatles'
    manager Brian Epstein, who had to hide his homosexuality from the
    public. Lennon himself, however, never publicly discussed his
    inspiration for the lyrics. When the song was first written, Lennon used "two-foot tall" to rhyme with the "wall" in the first verse, but
    mistakenly said "two-foot small" when he sang the line to McCartney, and decided to keep it this way. Pete Shotton, Lennon's former bandmate from
    The Quarrymen, was present when the song was being composed, and
    suggested adding "Hey" to the start of the line in the refrain.

    --

    Fascinating how The Beatles and Bob Dylan both inspired each other and
    had what seemed like moments of rivalry.
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  • From nyarlathotep1@nyarlathotep1@hotmail.com (Norbert) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Sat Feb 22 15:00:43 2025
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    That's the way John Lennon was, though: He would have these blind
    enthusiasms, only to terminate them with violent apostasies. This
    applies to Dylan, the Maharishi, to Allen Klein, to Janov and Primal
    Scream therapy. If only he had the sense to discern Yoko for the
    narcissistic psychopath she was.

    Lennon turned against his wife Cynthia and against McCartney in sick
    ways, but he had not embraced them blindly; they had earned his trust
    and respect, and it was Yoko, I believe, who engineered the destruction
    of those relationships. That's what narcissists do, just like cult
    leaders. A person who is severed from what stabilizes him is vulnerable
    to the narcissistic cult leader.
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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Thu Feb 27 19:45:28 2025
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    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 15:00:42 +0000, Norbert wrote:

    That's the way John Lennon was, though: He would have these blind enthusiasms, only to terminate them with violent apostasies. This
    applies to Dylan, the Maharishi, to Allen Klein, to Janov and Primal
    Scream therapy. If only he had the sense to discern Yoko for the narcissistic psychopath she was.

    Lennon turned against his wife Cynthia and against McCartney in sick
    ways, but he had not embraced them blindly; they had earned his trust
    and respect, and it was Yoko, I believe, who engineered the destruction
    of those relationships. That's what narcissists do, just like cult
    leaders. A person who is severed from what stabilizes him is vulnerable
    to the narcissistic cult leader.

    Well put, grim times for Beatle John.
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  • From nyarlathotep1@nyarlathotep1@hotmail.com (Norbert) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Fri Feb 28 13:16:27 2025
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    How about for his friends, coworkers, and family? McCartney cared more
    about Cynthia and Julian than John did -- as he demonstrated by writing
    "Hey Jude" and half-jokingly proposing marriage to Cynthia.

    Lennon allowed Yoko to poison his behavior towards everyone who had once mattered to him -- and to only accept those who kissed (or pretended to
    kiss, as in the case of Klein, Richter, and Mintz) her ass. That's the
    way narcissists are.
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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Mon Mar 10 06:36:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 13:16:26 +0000, Norbert wrote:

    How about for his friends, coworkers, and family? McCartney cared more
    about Cynthia and Julian than John did -- as he demonstrated by writing
    "Hey Jude" and half-jokingly proposing marriage to Cynthia.

    Lennon allowed Yoko to poison his behavior towards everyone who had once mattered to him -- and to only accept those who kissed (or pretended to
    kiss, as in the case of Klein, Richter, and Mintz) her ass. That's the
    way narcissists are.

    Ssd story, agreed.
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