• Re: Dylan's Mishearing of "I Want To Hold Your Hand"

    From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Thu Feb 27 19:44:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.music.dylan

    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 15:03:02 +0000, Norbert wrote:

    "Acknowledged" would have been a better way of phrasing it, I agree.

    Yes, agreed.
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  • From nyarlathotep1@nyarlathotep1@hotmail.com (Norbert) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Fri Feb 28 13:28:08 2025
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    Sounds like an intense (in a bad way) experience.

    My parents met in Cambridge, MA., in the 60s, and I grew up with them
    playing stuff by Dylan, Donovan, and Cat Stevens. My mother eventually
    moved up to Gordon Lightfoot.

    Anyway, so I thought I liked Dylan. Or perhaps I was merely used to his
    stuff. Then, in the mid-1970s, a live Dylan concert was broadcast from Colorado. Joan Baez joined him onstage. I was eager to see it. But
    what Dylan proceeded to do was to make a mess. The songs were sloppy
    and barely recognizable. His longtime collaborator Joan Baez was out of
    sync with him,

    And I began to suspect that Dylan was an emperor with no Clothes.

    The same thing happened at Dylan's Grammy awards "speech/performance" in
    the early 90s. He couldn't play, sing, or deliver a speech. In that
    case, he was probably out of his mind on substances.

    Still, I think he's an emperor with no clothes. People deify him
    because they think they're supposed to.
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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Mon Mar 10 06:31:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 13:28:06 +0000, Norbert wrote:

    Sounds like an intense (in a bad way) experience.

    My parents met in Cambridge, MA., in the 60s, and I grew up with them
    playing stuff by Dylan, Donovan, and Cat Stevens. My mother eventually
    moved up to Gordon Lightfoot.

    Anyway, so I thought I liked Dylan. Or perhaps I was merely used to his stuff. Then, in the mid-1970s, a live Dylan concert was broadcast from Colorado. Joan Baez joined him onstage. I was eager to see it. But
    what Dylan proceeded to do was to make a mess. The songs were sloppy
    and barely recognizable. His longtime collaborator Joan Baez was out of
    sync with him,

    Your opinion.

    That's the Hard Rain concert,band it was some brilliant stuff.

    And I began to suspect that Dylan was an emperor with no Clothes.

    The same thing happened at Dylan's Grammy awards "speech/performance" in
    the early 90s. He couldn't play, sing, or deliver a speech. In that
    case, he was probably out of his mind on substances.

    Still, I think he's an emperor with no clothes. People deify him
    because they think they're supposed to.

    No, I suppose with Bob Dylan either you get it or you don't.

    Sorry to see that you don't.
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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) to rec.music.beatles,rec.music.dylan on Sun Mar 16 11:10:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.music.dylan

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 6:42:46 +0000, Pluted Pup wrote:

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2025 07:58:47 -0800, Norbert wrote:

    I've read an account that on meeting Dylan for the first time, the
    Beatles offered him a drink. Dylan asked for "cheap wine." The Beatles
    also offered him speed, which Dylan declined. Dylan proposed instead
    that they smoke marijuana. The Beatles admitted to him that they had
    never used it -- which astonished Bob. "What about your song, the one
    about getting high?" Eventually, the issue was sorted out; Dylan had
    misheard the lyric "I can't hide" from "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" as "I
    get high."

    Is this Dylan's testimony or someone else's? Anyway what he
    said was not what he believed, he was hustling the Beatles
    into taking pot.

    Is it true that the Beatles used speed and offered it
    to others, or was that just part of Dylan's story?

    Supposedly the Beatles used Preluden and Black Beauties back in the
    Hamburg days.

    Dylan or a colleague of his then produced a joint, which Dylan lit up
    and offered to John. John, instead, handed the cigarette to Ringo, whom
    he pronounced "My royal taster." Ringo smoked the entire thing, and
    went into a laughing fit. The other guys agreed to partake of the
    substance, and at least two of them, John and Paul, became regular users
    -- so much so, that when Lennon's retiring personal assistant showed his
    understudy Fred Seaman the ropes of his new job, he showed him about
    procuring Thai stick for John.

    Just curious: Does anyone in here still smoke weed? I used to, for a
    while. However, I find today's marijuana culture, at least in suburban
    Massachusetts, disturbing. There are now three dope dispensaries in my
    small town, and the regulars shuffle up and down the street, murmuring
    to themselves in Jeffrey Dahmer monotones about how that want to
    purchase Greenland, take over Canada, and rename the Gulf of Mexico.
    These people have doped themselves into thinking they ARE Donald Trump.
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