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I got a head start in Beethoven's late sting quartets (opp 127 thru 135)
when my mother gave me an LP with the Bflat major quartet op 130 / 133
for my birthday. I think I turned eighteen or nineteen back then. It was
the LaSalle Quartet. Later she gave me two more, with the A minor
quartet (132) and the C sharp minor (131).


I have been around the block many times since then. I have had times I
liked the Eflat quartet best, op 127. Or the valedictory op 135.

Because the 130/133 was my start, I have always remained attached to the
Bflat major. However, often I feel, as so many do, the op 131 is
Beethoven's ultimate string quartet.

So how do you feel? What is your favorite?
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:14:09 +0000, Herman wrote:

I got a head start in Beethoven's late sting quartets (opp 127 thru 135)
when my mother gave me an LP with the Bflat major quartet op 130 / 133
for my birthday. I think I turned eighteen or nineteen back then. It was
the LaSalle Quartet. Later she gave me two more, with the A minor
quartet (132) and the C sharp minor (131).

I have been around the block many times since then. I have had times I
liked the Eflat quartet best, op 127. Or the valedictory op 135.

Because the 130/133 was my start, I have always remained attached to the Bflat major. However, often I feel, as so many do, the op 131 is
Beethoven's ultimate string quartet.

So how do you feel? What is your favorite?

Juilliard -- obviously! I heard them live.
I am referring to the "real" Julliard --
Mann, Cohen, Hillyer, Adam.

Compared to the Juilliard all the others
stringtests I hearded were decaffeinated.

Cheers!
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:14:09 +0000, Herman wrote:

I got a head start in Beethoven's late sting
quartets (opp 127 thru 135) when my mother
gave me an LP with the Bflat major quartet
op 130 / 133 for my birthday. I think I
turned eighteen or nineteen back then. It
was the LaSalle Quartet. Later she gave me
two more, with the A minor quartet (132)
and the C sharp minor (131).

The LaSalle connection certainly explains
your dubious musical taste.

Cheers!
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:14:09 +0000, Herman wrote:

I got a head start in Beethoven's late sting quartets (opp 127 thru 135)
when my mother gave me an LP with the Bflat major quartet op 130 / 133
for my birthday. I think I turned eighteen or nineteen back then. It was
the LaSalle Quartet. Later she gave me two more, with the A minor
quartet (132) and the C sharp minor (131).

I have been around the block many times since then. I have had times I
liked the Eflat quartet best, op 127. Or the valedictory op 135.

Because the 130/133 was my start, I have always remained attached to the Bflat major. However, often I feel, as so many do, the op 131 is
Beethoven's ultimate string quartet.

So how do you feel? What is your favorite?

Not "the" one favorite but near the top is V|-gh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOpx-_4hch4

Cheers!
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"So how do you feel? What is your favorite?"

My question was: what is your favorite piece among the last five LvB
quartets.

Not: which is your favorite recording, a topic that has been discussed a million times.

It's perhaps a topic for people who like Beethoven's string quartets.
And Beethoven in general.

Of the ABC quartets I like the A minor least, or rather, I haven't heard
many performances of the Heilige Dankgesang which didn't make me think
'Let's cut to the chase now.'

I love the first two movements, though.
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:06:12 +0000, Herman wrote:

"So how do you feel? What is your favorite?"

My question was: what is your favorite
piece among the last five LvB quartets.

Not: which is your favorite recording,
a topic that has been discussed a
million times.

One can have favorite recordings of works
one does not particularly care for, even
including Bruckner, Wagner, or the Great
Boring van Beethoven. One can appreciate
the craft even when one cannot find art.

The most appropriate way to describe the
LvB quartets is "befuddled". Especially
the latte ones.

Etc....
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:14:09 +0000, Herman wrote:

I got a head start in Beethoven's late sting quartets (opp 127 thru 135)
when my mother gave me an LP with the Bflat major quartet op 130 / 133
for my birthday. I think I turned eighteen or nineteen back then. It was
the LaSalle Quartet. Later she gave me two more, with the A minor
quartet (132) and the C sharp minor (131).

I have been around the block many times since then. I have had times I
liked the Eflat quartet best, op 127. Or the valedictory op 135.

Because the 130/133 was my start, I have always remained attached to the Bflat major. However, often I feel, as so many do, the op 131 is
Beethoven's ultimate string quartet.

So how do you feel? What is your favorite?

How about the sextets?

TIA
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Apples and oranges.

In spite of their highish opusnumbers, those sextets are from LvB's
earliest years.
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:34:26 +0000, Herman wrote:

Apples and oranges.

One needs a varied diet, doesn't one?

In spite of their highish opus numbers,
those sextets are from LvB's earliest
years.

Yes indeed, but why would one care? Are
you suggesting they may have expired?

Early Beethoven oftentimes sounds more
interestinng and engaging than the later
works. More music, less pretense.

Cheers!
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 1:53:57 +0000, DeepBlue wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:34:26 +0000, Herman wrote:

Apples and oranges.

One needs a varied diet, doesn't one?

In spite of their highish opus numbers,
those sextets are from LvB's earliest
years.

Yes indeed, but why would one care? Are
you suggesting they may have expired?

Early Beethoven oftentimes sounds more
interestinng and engaging than the later
works. More music, less pretense.

The sextets are also hornier! They are in
fact LvB's horniest works other than the
symphonies.

Cheers!
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people left RMCR because of your incredibly boring "humor". The "horny"
stuff etc.

Some of these people moved to this group, hoping to be able to discuss
music without your boorish and yet pretentious contributions inevitably
sucking the oxygen out of the room.

You hate Beethoven, and yet the overwhelming majority of messages on
this Beethoven SQ topic are by you, saying (fot instance) LvB's late SQs
are 'pretentious'. And then moving on to the overly familiar boorish
unfunny jokes.

It's pathological the way you seek out people who hate you. (Not that
there are many people who don't.)

Please go away.
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 9:28:10 +0000, Herman wrote:

people left RMCR because of your incredibly
boring "humor". The "horny" stuff etc.

You don't have to read anything you don't like.

Some of these people moved to this group,
hoping to be able to discuss music without
your boorish and yet pretentious contributions
inevitably sucking the oxygen out of the room.

One can always bring one's own oxygen supply.
Are you familiar with oxygen concentrators?

You hate Beethoven, and yet the overwhelming
majority of messages on this Beethoven SQ topic
are by you, saying (fot instance) LvB's late SQs
are 'pretentious'. And then moving on to the
overly familiar boorish unfunny jokes.

It's pathological the way you seek out people

who hate you. (Not that there are many people

who don't.)

I don't seek out anyone in particular. You are
clearly projecting.

Please go away.

After you.

This is an open, unmoderated usenet group.

The notion that some "people" you pretend
to somehow represent have more rights to
discuss what they "like" than other people
have rights to state what they dislike is
so dishonest and so hypocritical it does
not deserve comment. Not to mention you
pretend to discuss "music" while in fact
you want to discuss performances and
recording.

You are effectively asking for regulation
without explicit, formal regulation, so
that you and your acolytes can call the
shots. How much one likes or dislikes
any one composer is not a measure of
what one knows (or not) about music
or about music performance. Again,
you have no more right to post here
than anyone else, and you have no
more right to judge others than
others have a right to judge you.

For the record, I never said I "hated"
Beethoven. Go read the archives of this
ng -- and learn English in the process.

Ciao!
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:06:12 +0000, Herman wrote:

"So how do you feel? What is your favorite?"

My question was: what is your favorite piece
among the last five LvB quartets.

None. Everything that came after op. 110 is of
inferior musical quality. Fine craft, no music.
The only LvB quartet I still listen to is op. 95.

Not: which is your favorite recording, a topic
that has been discussed a million times.

Are there any rules or regulations that prohibit
discussing the topic again?

It's perhaps a topic for people who like Beethoven's
string quartets. And Beethoven in general.

Why?

Of the ABC quartets I like the A minor least, or
rather, I haven't heard many performances of the
Heilige Dankgesang which didn't make me think
'Let's cut to the chase now.'

So you want to talk about the work you like the
least from this set, while at the same time you
lecture others not to discuss works or composers
they don't like? One rule for Herman and one rule
for everyone else?

I love the first two movements, though.

Then why don't you write a better completion of
the work? There is such a tremendous marketing
opportunity for your skills. Imagine headlines
in all major magazines "Forgotten Dutch fiddler
improves Beethoven's late quartets".

Ciao!
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:34:26 +0000, Herman wrote:

Apples and oranges.

Speaking of latte quartets, Dvorak's op. 105 is
at the very top, alongside Schubert's D.887:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBEv3HqyGMY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MaWf2B-Th0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK4KzLd5lIc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_kIwOYA9y0

They both leave the ABCs in the dust.

Cheers!
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