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We're talking here about Blomstedt, Haitink, Karajan, and that's fine.
However surely there are exciting under age 50 conductors we like.

Be my guest...
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In light of this topic I woud say I tend to check out Pablo Heras Casado whenever he pops up on youtube.

I love watching Santtu Rouvali, even though his repertoire is a little
meh.


Dima Slobendiouk, formerly of the Sinfonia de Galicia, is just under
fifty. He accomplished the rare feat of performing a set of perfect
Mozart symphonies.
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On 09/07/2024 13:26, Herman wrote:

We're talking here about Blomstedt, Haitink, Karajan, and that's fine. However surely there are exciting under age 50 conductors we like.

Be my guest...

I'm exploring Chailly, but at 71, he's fairly young but not very young anymore, even for a conductor.

At least he is alive.

Most conductors represented in my new 10-level 'Musikstapler' (my old CD cabinet collapsed a few months ago) and in the shoe boxes in my attic
are dead. Not barely dead, but definitely thoroughly dead.

Back in the 1990s I had mixed feelings about Chailly.

I culled his Bruckner 4 with the Concertgebouw Orchestra, one of the
first CDs I ever bought, and agreed with some others that his Mahler was
well executed and refined, but too polished, too smooth, too bright, as
it were: 'Mahler in an Armani suit behind the wheel of a Ferrari', as
Tony Duggan put it.

But I still have his recording of Symphony No. 7 and like it.

I also have and like his 'Jazz Album' and 'Film Album', both with music
by Shostakovich and performed by the Concertgewouw Orchestra.

Recent acquisition: 13 CD box with Chailly's live 'Radio Recordings'
(Q Disk MCCM 97033), released in 2004.

And I ordered his 'Dance Album' (again Shostakovich, by the Philadelphia Orchestra).
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Roland van Gaalen
The Netherlands
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Op 2024-07-09 om 17:29 schreef Roland van Gaalen:

Back in the 1990s I had mixed feelings about Chailly.

I culled his Bruckner 4 with the Concertgebouw Orchestra, one of the
first CDs I ever bought, and agreed with some others that his Mahler was well executed and refined, but too polished, too smooth, too bright, as
it were: 'Mahler in an Armani suit behind the wheel of a Ferrari', as
Tony Duggan put it.

But I still have his recording of Symphony No. 7 and like it.

I also have and like his 'Jazz Album' and 'Film Album', both with music
by Shostakovich and performed by the Concertgewouw Orchestra.

Recent acquisition: 13 CD box with Chailly's live 'Radio Recordings'
(Q Disk MCCM 97033), released in 2004.

And I ordered his 'Dance Album' (again Shostakovich, by the Philadelphia Orchestra).
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Roland van Gaalen
The Netherlands

Recently I've "discovered" some of his "Discoveries" albums (like "Verdi discoveries", "Cherubini discoveries", "Rossini discoveries"). These are
quite remarkable fine albums. Also 2 other albums with overtures and
preludes etc. by Verdi, and works by Bartok, Puccini and Rota. Splendid.
His Shostakovich albums are equally fine. I heard/read that the RCO did
not want to make a recording of the "Dance album" without having more experience with that music - Chailly was too hurried to make that
recording according to the orchestra. So Chailly (angry) recorded it
with the Philidelphia Orchestra. FWIW.
I like his Beethoven and Brahms cycles with the Gewandhausorchester as
well (his 2nd Brahms cycle), but the Brahms Serenades not so; these are
too hurried indeed.
His Mahler is as put by Duggan. But for me no reason to cull it.


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The way I heard Chailly, he is mainly into modernist music. Or was. He
may have changed by now.

There is a Chailly Stravinsky box, eleven CDs in all, of which I have
about six in single issues. Chailly's is the best of today's Stravinsky
on CD, together with the Salonen set with the London Philharmonic on
Sony.

I also have the double CD with Hindemith Kammermusiken. Terrific.

The Concertgebouw reverb was not a good fit for Chailly.
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Op 2024-07-09 om 19:17 schreef Herman:

The way I heard Chailly, he is mainly into modernist music. Or was. He
may have changed by now.

There is a Chailly Stravinsky box, eleven CDs in all, of which I have
about six in single issues. Chailly's is the best of today's Stravinsky
on CD, together with the Salonen set with the London Philharmonic on
Sony.

I also have the double CD with Hindemith Kammermusiken. Terrific.

The Concertgebouw reverb was not a good fit for Chailly.

He has changed, or so.
Maybe I have the same Stravinsky (around 6 discs too, anyhow not 11) and certainly the same Hindemith recordings.
Re the modernistic he did a lot,mostly Stravinsky, but he was never a completist. He did not much with Prokofiev; a little more Var|?se,
Schoenberg, Messiaen, Zemlinsky, Janacek, Ravel, Schnittke.

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On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:26:37 +0000, Herman wrote:

We're talking here about Blomstedt, Haitink,
Karajan, and that's fine. However surely there
are exciting under age 50 conductors we like.

I posted many times about younger conductors,
and you never showed any interest in any of
them: Tomomi Nishimoto, Alonda de la Parra,
Igor Manasherov, Han-na Chang, and so on.

You promoted instead Boring Haitink. What has
prompted your sudden change of interest in
living, active conductors?

Go figure .....
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 14:31:35 +0000, Herman wrote:

Dima Slobendiouk, formerly of the Sinfonia de
Galicia, is just under fifty. He accomplished
the rare feat of performing a set of perfect
Mozart symphonies.

Perfect by whose metrics and standards? Has
Moewszart's ghost blessed them? Enlighten us!

Cheers!
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 17:17:07 +0000, Herman wrote:

The Concertgebouw reverb was
not a good fit for Chailly.

The Concertgebouw reverb has
not been a good fit for anyone
since Mengelberg.
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Gerard: "He has changed, or so.
Maybe I have the same Stravinsky (around 6 discs too, anyhow not 11) and certainly the same Hindemith recordings.
Re the modernistic he did a lot,mostly Stravinsky, but he was never a completist. He did not much with Prokofiev; a little more Var|?se,
Schoenberg, Messiaen, Zemlinsky, Janacek, Ravel, Schnittke."

Times have changed. Record companies aren't too eager to make that kind
of recordings anymore, and concert halls aren't programming those
composers anymore.

Like I said: Stravinsky should have had the stature of a Beethoven by
now; however he's hardly ever programmed.

In Amsterdam, Mariss Janssons started this Classic FM repertoire shrink. Chailly's coming to conduct Bruckner 9 this fall.

I remember getting Chailly's double CD with Schumann symphonies in
Mahler's orchestration, but I just didn't get the point of making these recordings,.
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Op 2024-07-10 om 08:16 schreef Herman:

Gerard: "He has changed, or so.
Maybe I have the same Stravinsky (around 6 discs too, anyhow not 11) and certainly the same Hindemith recordings.
Re the modernistic he did a lot,mostly Stravinsky, but he was never a completist. He did not much with Prokofiev; a little more Var|?se, Schoenberg, Messiaen, Zemlinsky, Janacek, Ravel, Schnittke."

Times have changed. Record companies aren't too eager to make that kind
of recordings anymore, and concert halls aren't programming those
composers anymore.

Like I said: Stravinsky should have had the stature of a Beethoven by
now; however he's hardly ever programmed.

In Amsterdam, Mariss Janssons started this Classic FM repertoire shrink. Chailly's coming to conduct Bruckner 9 this fall.

I remember getting Chailly's double CD with Schumann symphonies in
Mahler's orchestration, but I just didn't get the point of making these recordings,.

It seems that Chailly (still) is allowed to make recordings of
everything he likes. Even remakes - like a complete Brahms cycle.

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