I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to fry
is that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've come to
realize that there is a more important reason, and that is if you are
a person who does hot have a vented range hood. I was wrong in a
pretty big way. I am committed to never again deep frying or even
stir frying without venting to the outdoors. I fried some chicken
wings on the back patio. https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of
perfection that has never been equaled by other techniques, but if
it's at the expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth it. I
posted something that was incorrect out of ignorance.
I caught this one myself, but if anyone else notices anything
objectively incorrect in anything that I post, please inform me.
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:30:51 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to fry
is that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've come to
realize that there is a more important reason, and that is if you are
a person who does hot have a vented range hood. I was wrong in a
pretty big way. I am committed to never again deep frying or even
stir frying without venting to the outdoors. I fried some chicken
wings on the back patio. https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of
perfection that has never been equaled by other techniques, but if
it's at the expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth it. I
posted something that was incorrect out of ignorance.
I caught this one myself, but if anyone else notices anything
objectively incorrect in anything that I post, please inform me.
Hey now, that's not clarified butter, is it?
On 1/7/2026 11:42 PM, Ruprecht ||| wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:30:51 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to fry
is that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've come to
realize that there is a more important reason, and that is if you
are a person who does hot have a vented range hood. I was wrong in
a pretty big way. I am committed to never again deep frying or even
stir frying without venting to the outdoors. I fried some chicken
wings on the back patio.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of
perfection that has never been equaled by other techniques, but if
it's at the expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth it. I
posted something that was incorrect out of ignorance.
I caught this one myself, but if anyone else notices anything
objectively incorrect in anything that I post, please inform me.
Hey now, that's not clarified butter, is it?135 fl oz of sunflower oil. It has been 12-15 years since that fryer
had been used. Fortunately, I put it away very clean.I am sticking to
my no frying inside until I have ventilation. The minimum oil
capacity of that unit is about 1 gallon, and the maximum, about
1-1/2. I should clarify a couple of pounds of butter to add to it
before the next chicken fry. One of the local stores has wings for
$1.67/# every Friday in January.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 07:36:52 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/7/2026 11:42 PM, Ruprecht ||| wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:30:51 -0600135 fl oz of sunflower oil. It has been 12-15 years since that fryer
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to fry
is that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've come to
realize that there is a more important reason, and that is if you
are a person who does hot have a vented range hood. I was wrong in
a pretty big way. I am committed to never again deep frying or even
stir frying without venting to the outdoors. I fried some chicken
wings on the back patio.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of
perfection that has never been equaled by other techniques, but if
it's at the expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth it. I
posted something that was incorrect out of ignorance.
I caught this one myself, but if anyone else notices anything
objectively incorrect in anything that I post, please inform me.
Hey now, that's not clarified butter, is it?
had been used. Fortunately, I put it away very clean.I am sticking to
my no frying inside until I have ventilation. The minimum oil
capacity of that unit is about 1 gallon, and the maximum, about
1-1/2. I should clarify a couple of pounds of butter to add to it
before the next chicken fry. One of the local stores has wings for
$1.67/# every Friday in January.
So...you took the easy way out.
And after leading us all on, tsk...
No duck fat for you sir!
On 1/8/2026 10:33 AM, Ruprecht ||| wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 07:36:52 -0600
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/7/2026 11:42 PM, Ruprecht ||| wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:30:51 -0600135 fl oz of sunflower oil. It has been 12-15 years since that
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to
fry is that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've
come to realize that there is a more important reason, and that
is if you are a person who does hot have a vented range hood. I
was wrong in a pretty big way. I am committed to never again
deep frying or even stir frying without venting to the outdoors.
I fried some chicken wings on the back patio.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of
perfection that has never been equaled by other techniques, but
if it's at the expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth
it. I posted something that was incorrect out of ignorance.
I caught this one myself, but if anyone else notices anything
objectively incorrect in anything that I post, please inform me.
Hey now, that's not clarified butter, is it?
fryer had been used. Fortunately, I put it away very clean.I am
sticking to my no frying inside until I have ventilation. The
minimum oil capacity of that unit is about 1 gallon, and the
maximum, about 1-1/2. I should clarify a couple of pounds of
butter to add to it before the next chicken fry. One of the local
stores has wings for $1.67/# every Friday in January.
So...you took the easy way out.
And after leading us all on, tsk...
No duck fat for you sir!I do plan on adding it. Sometimes there are life circumstances. Fuck,
I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever had.
When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the
revelation about the indoor air quality.
Fuck, I
had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever had. When
I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the revelation
about the indoor air quality.
On 1/8/2026 10:33 AM, Ruprecht ||| wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 07:36:52 -0600I do plan on adding it. Sometimes there are life circumstances. Fuck, I
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/7/2026 11:42 PM, Ruprecht ||| wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:30:51 -0600135 fl oz of sunflower oil. It has been 12-15 years since that fryer
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to fry
is that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've come to
realize that there is a more important reason, and that is if you
are a person who does hot have a vented range hood. I was wrong in
a pretty big way. I am committed to never again deep frying or even
stir frying without venting to the outdoors. I fried some chicken
wings on the back patio.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of
perfection that has never been equaled by other techniques, but if
it's at the expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth it. I
posted something that was incorrect out of ignorance.
I caught this one myself, but if anyone else notices anything
objectively incorrect in anything that I post, please inform me.
Hey now, that's not clarified butter, is it?
had been used. Fortunately, I put it away very clean.I am sticking to
my no frying inside until I have ventilation. The minimum oil
capacity of that unit is about 1 gallon, and the maximum, about
1-1/2. I should clarify a couple of pounds of butter to add to it
before the next chicken fry. One of the local stores has wings for
$1.67/# every Friday in January.
So...you took the easy way out.
And after leading us all on, tsk...
No duck fat for you sir!
had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever had. When
I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the revelation
about the indoor air quality.
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever
had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the
revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.a They ship the blood to the lab 30
miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.a They do a battery of tests and I feel nothing.
When they draw blood, I do feel a little pinch when they insert the
needle.a Usually done quarterly.a I have to fast so after, I go to McDs
down the street for a McGriddle for breakfast.
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever
had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the
revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.-a They ship the blood to the lab 30
miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.-a They do a battery of tests and I feel nothing.
When they draw blood, I do feel a little pinch when they insert the needle.-a Usually done quarterly.-a I have to fast so after, I go to McDs down the street for a McGriddle for breakfast.
On 2026-01-08 7:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever
had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the
revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.-a They ship the blood to the lab 30
miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.-a They do a >> battery of tests and I feel nothing.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I went for an echocardiogram a few months ago and the technician had
inject a dye to geta better image. She ended up having to call in a
coworker to find a vein and stick in the IV. Back in November I went for blood work and the lab tech had a hard time.
I can call the lab and book an appointment which will be a couple weeks
down the line or..... I can just show up some time between 10:30 and
noon and I am likely to get in within 15 minutes and be out within a
half hour.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:46:23 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 7:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever >>>> had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the
revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.-a They ship the blood to the lab 30
miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.-a They do a >>> battery of tests and I feel nothing.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I can imagine. They're afraid you'll start talking.
Bruce wrote on 1/8/2026 8:21 PM:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:46:23 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 7:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever >>>>> had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the
revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.|e-a They ship the blood to the lab 30 >>>> miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.|e-a They do a
battery of tests and I feel nothing.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I can imagine. They're afraid you'll start talking.
Imagine yourself working as a lowly phlebotomist in some canadian
hospital or doctor's clinic.
In walks Officer Dave ....
Dave Smith wrote on 1/8/2026 7:46 PM:
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I went for an echocardiogram a few months ago and the technician had
inject a dye to get-a better image. She ended up having to call in a
coworker to find a vein and stick in the IV. Back in November I went for
blood work and the lab tech had a hard time.
Dave, If a doctor had to extract a stool sample from you, It would
result in a 57 page article in the New England Journal of Medicine.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:48:42 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Bruce wrote on 1/8/2026 8:21 PM:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:46:23 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 7:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:I can imagine. They're afraid you'll start talking.
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever >>>>>> had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the >>>>>> revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.|e-a They ship the blood to the lab 30 >>>>> miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.|e-a They do a
battery of tests and I feel nothing.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me. >>>
Imagine yourself working as a lowly phlebotomist in some canadian
hospital or doctor's clinic.
In walks Officer Dave ....
"I have a friend who had a phlebotomy in the summer of 1972..."
They make you fast still?-a I have been told I don't need to bother. They just want to know who long ago I ate.-a One time when they asked I said
no food that morning, just coffee. Apparently coffee counts, even black coffee.
On 1/8/2026 8:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
They make you fast still?-a I have been told I don't need to bother.
They just want to know who long ago I ate.-a One time when they asked
I said no food that morning, just coffee. Apparently coffee counts,
even black coffee.
Depends on the test.a I'm pre-diabetic and they watch my A1C so fasting
is needed for that.
Not a big deal for me as I don't eat breakfast until late and I make an
8:30 appointment at the lab; thus a 12 hour fast.
On 1/8/2026 8:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
They make you fast still?-a I have been told I don't need to bother.
They just want to know who long ago I ate.-a One time when they asked I
said no food that morning, just coffee. Apparently coffee counts, even
black coffee.
Depends on the test.-a I'm pre-diabetic and they watch my A1C so fasting
is needed for that.
Not a big deal for me as I don't eat breakfast until late and I make an
8:30 appointment at the lab; thus a 12 hour fast.
On 2026-01-08 10:38 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2026 8:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
They make you fast still?-a I have been told I don't need to bother.
They just want to know who long ago I ate.-a One time when they asked
I said no food that morning, just coffee. Apparently coffee counts,
even black coffee.
Depends on the test.-a I'm pre-diabetic and they watch my A1C so
fasting is needed for that.
Not a big deal for me as I don't eat breakfast until late and I make
an 8:30 appointment at the lab; thus a 12 hour fast.
It wouldn't be a problem from me. While I usually have a bowl of cereal
with some fruit first thing, but I can easily skip that and I am fine
until about noon.a However, since I have been told not to worry about it
I just go ahead and eat. The lab is usually really busy first thing
because there are people that are fasting want to get it over with, and those ho have work or school. I find they are usually cleared out by 10:30.
There was one time when it got really bogged down.a It was the time I
went for the lactose intolerance test.a Apparently there were 4 others
in for the say thing soa that caused a major backup because it involves
so many blood tests. They do one for a baseline then you drink a huge
glass of sweetened milk and get another blood draw every half hour.
On 2026-01-08 10:38 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Depends on the test.-a I'm pre-diabetic and they watch my A1C so fasting
is needed for that.
Not a big deal for me as I don't eat breakfast until late and I make an
8:30 appointment at the lab; thus a 12 hour fast.
It wouldn't be a problem from me. While I usually have a bowl of cereal
with some fruit first thing, but I can easily skip that and I am fine
until about noon. However, since I have been told not to worry about it
I just go ahead and eat. The lab is usually really busy first thing
because there are people that are fasting want to get it over with, and >those ho have work or school. I find they are usually cleared out by 10:30.
There was one time when it got really bogged down. It was the time I
went for the lactose intolerance test.
They
just want to know who long ago I ate.
Dave Smith wrote on 1/8/2026 7:46 PM:
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples
from me. I went for an echocardiogram a few months ago and the
technician had inject a dye to get-a better image. She ended up
having to call in a coworker to find a vein and stick in the IV.
Back in November I went for blood work and the lab tech had a hard
time.
Dave, If a doctor had to extract a stool sample from you, It would
result in a 57 page article in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Bruce wrote on 1/8/2026 8:21 PM:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:46:23 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-08 7:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one
I've ever had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that
was before the revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.|e-a They ship the blood to the
lab 30 miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the
testing.|e-a They do a battery of tests and I feel nothing.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples
from me.
I can imagine. They're afraid you'll start talking.
Imagine yourself working as a lowly phlebotomist in some canadian
hospital or doctor's clinic.
In walks Officer Dave ....
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:31:17 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Dave Smith wrote on 1/8/2026 7:46 PM:
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples
from me. I went for an echocardiogram a few months ago and the
technician had inject a dye to get-a better image. She ended up
having to call in a coworker to find a vein and stick in the IV.
Back in November I went for blood work and the lab tech had a hard
time.
Dave, If a doctor had to extract a stool sample from you, It would
result in a 57 page article in the New England Journal of Medicine.
"We only wanted a stool sample but his whole personality came out!"
Ed P wrote on 1/8/2026 9:38 PM:
On 1/8/2026 8:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
They make you fast still?|e-a I have been told I don't need to
bother. They just want to know who long ago I ate.|e-a One time when
they asked I said no food that morning, just coffee. Apparently
coffee counts, even black coffee.
Depends on the test.-a I'm pre-diabetic and they watch my A1C so
fasting is needed for that.
Not a big deal for me as I don't eat breakfast until late and I
make an 8:30 appointment at the lab; thus a 12 hour fast.
Everything in life is a big deal for Officer Dave.
Medical personnel likely just tell Dave what they think he wants to
hear. Otherwise, there will be hell to pay.
It's the easiest approach with a guy like him.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:46:23 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I can imagine. They're afraid you'll start talking.
On 2026-01-08 7:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've ever
had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before the
revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.-a They ship the blood to the lab 30
miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.-a They do a >> battery of tests and I feel nothing.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I went for an echocardiogram a few months ago and the technician had
inject a dye to get better image. She ended up having to call in a
coworker to find a vein and stick in the IV. Back in November I went for blood work and the lab tech had a hard time.
On 2026-01-08 10:38 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 1/8/2026 8:46 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
They make you fast still?-a I have been told I don't need to bother.
They just want to know who long ago I ate.-a One time when they asked I >>> said no food that morning, just coffee. Apparently coffee counts, even
black coffee.
Depends on the test.-a I'm pre-diabetic and they watch my A1C so fasting
is needed for that.
Not a big deal for me as I don't eat breakfast until late and I make an
8:30 appointment at the lab; thus a 12 hour fast.
It wouldn't be a problem from me. While I usually have a bowl of cereal
with some fruit first thing, but I can easily skip that and I am fine
until about noon.
On 2026-01-08 7:52 p.m., Ed P wrote:rather take a caffeine tablet that drink black coffee.
On 1/8/2026 6:35 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Fuck, I had a blood test today that was the most painful one I've
ever had. When I posted about the clarified butter, that was before
the revelation about the indoor air quality.
Never had pain from a blood test.-a They ship the blood to the lab 30
miles away and I don't feel a thing while the do the testing.-a They do
a battery of tests and I feel nothing.
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I went for an echocardiogram a few months ago and the technician had
inject a dye to get-a better image. She ended up having to call in a coworker to find a vein and stick in the IV. Back in November I went for blood work and the lab tech had a hard time.
When they draw blood, I do feel a little pinch when they insert the
needle.-a Usually done quarterly.-a I have to fast so after, I go to
McDs down the street for a McGriddle for breakfast.
They make you fast still?-a I have been told I don't need to bother. They just want to know who long ago I ate.-a One time when they asked I said
no food that morning, just coffee. Apparently coffee counts, even black coffee.
That's bullshit. Black coffee doesn't do anything. I'd ignore it. I'd
On 2026-01-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I went for an echocardiogram a few months ago and the technician had inject a dye to get better image. She ended up having to call in a coworker to find a vein and stick in the IV. Back in November I went for blood work and the lab tech had a hard time.
I always tell them to use the back of my hand. Painful, and sometimes
they blow right through the vein, but it's better than having them
fish around in both elbows before admitting defeat and poking my
hand.
On 2026-01-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I always tell them to use the back of my hand. Painful, and sometimes
they blow right through the vein, but it's better than having them
fish around in both elbows before admitting defeat and poking my
hand.
In my case they can usually get it the first try from the elbow but if
they get to the third try and no luck I tell them to take it from the
top of my hand. It really depends on how good the phlebotomist is. I
had blood drawn on 12/23 and she got it from the vein in my elbow in one try. :)
Jill
On 1/9/2026 5:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-01-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:In my case they can usually get it the first try from the elbow but if
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from me.
I always tell them to use the back of my hand.-a Painful, and sometimes
they blow right through the vein, but it's better than having them
fish around in both elbows before admitting defeat and poking my
hand.
they get to the third try and no luck I tell them to take it from the
top of my hand.-a It really depends on how good the phlebotomist is.-a I
had blood drawn on 12/23 and she got it from the vein in my elbow in one try. :)
Jill
On 1/9/2026 4:33 PM, jmquown wrote:
On 1/9/2026 5:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-01-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:In my case they can usually get it the first try from the elbow but if
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from
me.
I always tell them to use the back of my hand.-a Painful, and sometimes
they blow right through the vein, but it's better than having them
fish around in both elbows before admitting defeat and poking my
hand.
they get to the third try and no luck I tell them to take it from the
top of my hand.-a It really depends on how good the phlebotomist is.-
I had blood drawn on 12/23 and she got it from the vein in my elbow in
one try. :)
Jill
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving
the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes.
The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.a I told her at 80 years
old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen.
From leaving the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least
20 minutes. The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one. I told her at
80 years old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving
the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes.
The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.-a I told her at 80 years
old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving
the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes.
The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.-a I told her at 80 years
old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in the
snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out in Morse >code.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From
leaving the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at
least 20 minutes. The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.
I told her at 80 years old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in
the snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out
in Morse code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 14:51:20 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave SmithMortality fear.
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From
leaving the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at
least 20 minutes. The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.
I told her at 80 years old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in
the snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out
in Morse code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
I'd rather take a caffeine tablet than drink black coffee.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
In my case they can usually get it the first try from the elbow but if they get to the third try and no luck I tell them to take it from the
top of my hand. It really depends on how good the phlebotomist is. I
had blood drawn on 12/23 and she got it from the vein in my elbow in one try. :)
Jill
My veins seem to shrink to a microscopic size when they sense a needleWhen dehydrated the veins are slacker and the blood in
is near and they love to roll around, too.aaaaa?
~
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:23:13 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen.
The vet needed a urine sample from our cat a few days ago. Needle in
the bladder. She said he didn't even flinch.
lab room is at leastFrom leaving the house to the time I'm in the actual
20 minutes. The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one. I told her at >80 years old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
So now you know, there's always an alternative way. No flinching
required.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving
the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes. >> The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.a I told her at 80 years
old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in the >snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out in Morse >code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
On 2026-01-09, Bryan Simmons wrote:
I'd rather take a caffeine tablet than drink black coffee.
Yah, we all know you are a pill connioseur after you told us
about the time you scarfed up the pill your wife barfed up.
In article <10jsibt$3dpe1$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving >>>> the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes. >>>> The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.-a I told her at 80 years >>>> old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in the
snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out in Morse
code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
For the same reason young men do.
Their dick is the centre of the universe. When it doesn't
work it's the end of the world.
Janet UK--
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 23:04:31 -0700, Ruprecht ||| <necht@heidel.berg>
wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 14:51:20 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave SmithMortality fear.
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From
leaving the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at
least 20 minutes. The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.
I told her at 80 years old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in
the snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out
in Morse code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
They're relieved that it's still working?
don't worry Ed, there will be giants holding you down
by your wrists and ankles while the vet sticks the neele
in.
you could change it to Fish &
Chips. That's one of the iconic foods in the world. And with lemon or
lime, not vinegar, and good quality ketchup for the chips. I could
eat that 20 times a month.
In article <10js8jq$3dcmb$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:23:13 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen.
The vet needed a urine sample from our cat a few days ago. Needle in
the bladder. She said he didn't even flinch.
she knows your cat can't talk. Watch this one having
it done.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_WznpDiYc>
In article <10jsibt$3dpe1$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving >> >> the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes. >> >> The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.-a I told her at 80 years >> >> old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in the
snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out in Morse
code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
For the same reason young men do.
Their dick is the centre of the universe. When it doesn't
work it's the end of the world.
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:51:24 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
In article <10jsibt$3dpe1$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving >>> >> the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes.
The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.-a I told her at 80 years >>> >> old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in the >>> >snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out in Morse >>> >code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
For the same reason young men do.
Their dick is the centre of the universe. When it doesn't
work it's the end of the world.
I don't think young men take much pride in their ability to pee.
On 2026-01-10, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:51:24 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
In article <10jsibt$3dpe1$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 21:12:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-01-09 7:23 p.m., Ed P wrote:
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving >>>> >> the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes.
The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.-a I told her at 80 years
old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
The joys of getting old. When I was young I could write my name in the >>>> >snow with pee. I can't do that any more but I can spell it out in Morse >>>> >code.
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
For the same reason young men do.
Their dick is the centre of the universe. When it doesn't
work it's the end of the world.
I don't think young men take much pride in their ability to pee.
Apparently you've never seen them writing their names in the snow.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
In my case they can usually get it the first try from the elbow but if
they get to the third try and no luck I tell them to take it from the
top of my hand. It really depends on how good the phlebotomist is. I
had blood drawn on 12/23 and she got it from the vein in my elbow in one
try. :)
Jill
My veins seem to shrink to a microscopic size when they sense a needle
is near and they love to roll around, too.-a-a-a-a-aEfyu
~
On 1/9/2026 4:33 PM, jmquown wrote:
On 1/9/2026 5:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-01-09, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:In my case they can usually get it the first try from the elbow but if
The older I get the harder it is for them to draw blood samples from
me.
I always tell them to use the back of my hand.-a Painful, and sometimes
they blow right through the vein, but it's better than having them
fish around in both elbows before admitting defeat and poking my
hand.
they get to the third try and no luck I tell them to take it from the
top of my hand.-a It really depends on how good the phlebotomist is.-a I
had blood drawn on 12/23 and she got it from the vein in my elbow in
one try. :)
Jill
Once a year for a kidney test they need a urine specimen. From leaving
the house to the time I'm in the actual lab room is at least 20 minutes.
The lab lady asked if I'd be able to give one.-a I told her at 80 years
old, I can do it at 5 minute intervals.
In article <10jsibt$3dpe1$1@dont-email.me>,
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
For the same reason young men do.
Their dick is the centre of the universe. When it doesn't
work it's the end of the world.
I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to fry is
that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've come to realize that there is a more important reason, and that is if you are a person
who does hot have a vented range hood. I was wrong in a pretty big way.
I am committed to never again deep frying or even stir frying without venting to the outdoors. I fried some chicken wings on the back patio. https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of perfection
that has never been equaled by other techniques, but if it's at the
expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth it. I posted something
that was incorrect out of ignorance.
I caught this one myself, but if anyone else notices anything
objectively incorrect in anything that I post, please inform me.
In article <1767998950-4742@newsgrouper.org>,
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net says...
My veins seem to shrink to a microscopic size when they sense a needle
is near and they love to roll around, too.-a-a-a-a-a?
When dehydrated the veins are slacker and the blood in
them is thicker. Makes it harder to find the vein and
extract the blood.
Make sure you're well hydrated by drinking water half an
hour ahead of the blood test; so your entire circulatory
system is full and blood thin.
Immediately before the needle, swing your arms round
in big circles four or five times,pumping blood down to
their extremities. Clench and relax the fist several times
on the arm that's going to be stuck.
Janet UK.
Janet <nobody@home.com> posted:
Immediately before the needle, swing your arms round
in big circles four or five times,pumping blood down to
their extremities. Clench and relax the fist several times
on the arm that's going to be stuck.
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 21:13:07 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Janet <nobody@home.com> posted:
Immediately before the needle, swing your arms round
in big circles four or five times,pumping blood down to
their extremities. Clench and relax the fist several times
on the arm that's going to be stuck.
Do it with your neck too. It might improve the blood flow to your
brain. Do it especially well before you post in RFC.
Janet <nobody@home.com> posted:
Immediately before the needle, swing your arms round
in big circles four or five times,pumping blood down to
their extremities. Clench and relax the fist several times
on the arm that's going to be stuck.
Janet UK.
I didn't do any arm swinging but definitely did the clinching of
each fist as she was feeling around for those elusive veins.
Having had a penis all my life I can tell you that when I was younger
and had a strong bladder
On 2026-01-10, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I don't think young men take much pride in their ability to pee.
Apparently you've never seen them writing their names in the snow.
Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 21:13:07 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.netStanding on your head first might help too.
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Janet <nobody@home.com> posted:
Immediately before the needle, swing your arms round
in big circles four or five times,pumping blood down to
their extremities. Clench and relax the fist several times
on the arm that's going to be stuck.
Do it with your neck too. It might improve the blood flow to your
brain. Do it especially well before you post in RFC.
Dave Smith wrote:
Having had a penis all my life I can tell you that when I was younger
and had a strong bladder
Remember using it for sex, officer Dave?
Here's where you should post another of your
long winded tales about the daze gone by, and
pat yourself on the back again.
On 2026-01-10 6:51 a.m., Janet wrote:
In article <10jsibt$3dpe1$1@dont-email.me>,
Why do old men like to talk about their bodily functions so much?
For the same reason young men do.
Their dick is the centre of the universe. >
Having had a penis all my life I can tell you that when I was younger
and had a strong bladder I definitely thought about it when it was time
to pee. When I got older and hormones started affecting it for a
different function it certainly called out for
attention.
See above.
Keep talking.
I have posted here a few times that the only good reason not to fry is
that you don't want your kitchen to look like mine. I've come to realize that there is a more important reason, and that is if you are a person
who does hot have a vented range hood. I was wrong in a pretty big way.
I am committed to never again deep frying or even stir frying without venting to the outdoors. I fried some chicken wings on the back patio. https://photos.app.goo.gl/33oEmAT6DxSSyoR38
I still firmly believe that deep frying achieves a level of perfection
that has never been equaled by other techniques, but if it's at the
expense of indoor air quality, that's not worth it. I posted something
that was incorrect out of ignorance.
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