"Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:10md97m$3i2lh$1@dont-email.me...
My intermediate trailer has no proper tie down points at all.-a Its a two axle flat bed between the wheel wells with a welded rail.-a I typically
find myself either hooking into the top rail, or the bottom of the
vertical supports for the rail.-a Looks like two 5000lb axles.-a I think
the heaviest thing it has hauled is a few modern compact sedans, Ranger pickup, 42 GPW, and I think my dad hauled my JD3320 with it once or
twice.-a In between I used it to bring the Hurco KMB1 back from Hemet, Ca when I bought it.
I've debated welding something on the bed for ages, but the outside ring
of the bed is just 1/8 in x 2 angle.-a Modern weld on D-rings seem like brutal overkill for the applications.
Bob La Londe
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Loops of webbing are very handy to make temporary attachments. These are
the loop knots:
https://www.animatedknots.com/water-knot
and a Prusik attaches the loops firmly to the (deburred) rail: https://www.animatedknots.com/prusik-knot
For heavier loads they can be made from climbing rope, either nylon
Dynamic which is elastic or polyester Static which isn't.
Hardware store "poly" webbing isn't strong enough for serious rigging. https://countrybrookdesign.com/blog/why-climbers-use-tubular-webbing- instead-of-flat?
My intermediate trailer has no proper tie down points at all. Its a two >axle flat bed between the wheel wells with a welded rail. I typicallyKeep your eyes open for some good heavy duty 5 inch E-TracK. Alloes
find myself either hooking into the top rail, or the bottom of the
vertical supports for the rail. Looks like two 5000lb axles. I think
the heaviest thing it has hauled is a few modern compact sedans, Ranger >pickup, 42 GPW, and I think my dad hauled my JD3320 with it once or
twice. In between I used it to bring the Hurco KMB1 back from Hemet, Ca >when I bought it.
I've debated welding something on the bed for ages, but the outside ring
of the bed is just 1/8 in x 2 angle. Modern weld on D-rings seem like >brutal overkill for the applications.
In my various searches for cool tools I ran across these things. >https://www.ebay.com/itm/376576633875?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-166974-028196-7&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=376576633875&targetid=2274951440814&device=c&mktype=pla_with_promotion&googleloc=9030149&poi=&campaignid=23226622317&mkgroupid=183439379410&rlsatarget=pla-2274951440814&abcId=10504252&merchantid=5443268034&geoid=9030149&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23226622317&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh_TJOcIMWilSuOETJPGN9r-V&gclid=CjwKCAiAqKbMBhBmEiwAZ3UboBhrn3Xkzvjp4PwSMWbh_o_Z4XHbQvJR-49omfELwtATS6HPe1EhHRoC9k8QAvD_BwE
Short version of the link: https://tinyurl.com/dringforrcm
Its not at all a solution for the previous trailer, but these might just
be the magic sauce for the goose neck trailer which has an outside rail,
and stake pockets between the rail and the bed.
On 2/9/2026 1:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:102 inche anywhere in the continental 50 and Canada - 108 in Hawaii.
"Bob La Londe"a wrote in message news:10md97m$3i2lh$1@dont-email.me...
My intermediate trailer has no proper tie down points at all.a Its a two
axle flat bed between the wheel wells with a welded rail.a I typically
find myself either hooking into the top rail, or the bottom of the
vertical supports for the rail.a Looks like two 5000lb axles.a I think
the heaviest thing it has hauled is a few modern compact sedans, Ranger
pickup, 42 GPW, and I think my dad hauled my JD3320 with it once or
twice.a In between I used it to bring the Hurco KMB1 back from Hemet, Ca
when I bought it.
I've debated welding something on the bed for ages, but the outside ring
of the bed is just 1/8 in x 2 angle.a Modern weld on D-rings seem like
brutal overkill for the applications.
Bob La Londe
--------------------------------------
Loops of webbing are very handy to make temporary attachments. These are
the loop knots:
https://www.animatedknots.com/water-knot
and a Prusik attaches the loops firmly to the (deburred) rail:
https://www.animatedknots.com/prusik-knot
For heavier loads they can be made from climbing rope, either nylon
Dynamic which is elastic or polyester Static which isn't.
Hardware store "poly" webbing isn't strong enough for serious rigging.
https://countrybrookdesign.com/blog/why-climbers-use-tubular-webbing-
instead-of-flat?
For the low trailer I found some 3/8 reasonable size weld on d-rings.
For the bigger trailer its exactly 8' wide including stake pockets and
outer tie rail. That means its legal on "almost" any road in the US.
I'd actually like an 8'6", but those are only 50 state legal on
interstates if I recall correctly.
On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 15:05:26 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 2/9/2026 1:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:102 inche anywhere in the continental 50 and Canada - 108 in Hawaii.
"Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:10md97m$3i2lh$1@dont-email.me...
My intermediate trailer has no proper tie down points at all.-a Its a two >>> axle flat bed between the wheel wells with a welded rail.-a I typically
find myself either hooking into the top rail, or the bottom of the
vertical supports for the rail.-a Looks like two 5000lb axles.-a I think >>> the heaviest thing it has hauled is a few modern compact sedans, Ranger
pickup, 42 GPW, and I think my dad hauled my JD3320 with it once or
twice.-a In between I used it to bring the Hurco KMB1 back from Hemet, Ca >>> when I bought it.
I've debated welding something on the bed for ages, but the outside ring >>> of the bed is just 1/8 in x 2 angle.-a Modern weld on D-rings seem like
brutal overkill for the applications.
Bob La Londe
--------------------------------------
Loops of webbing are very handy to make temporary attachments. These are >>> the loop knots:
https://www.animatedknots.com/water-knot
and a Prusik attaches the loops firmly to the (deburred) rail:
https://www.animatedknots.com/prusik-knot
For heavier loads they can be made from climbing rope, either nylon
Dynamic which is elastic or polyester Static which isn't.
Hardware store "poly" webbing isn't strong enough for serious rigging.
https://countrybrookdesign.com/blog/why-climbers-use-tubular-webbing-
instead-of-flat?
For the low trailer I found some 3/8 reasonable size weld on d-rings.
For the bigger trailer its exactly 8' wide including stake pockets and
outer tie rail. That means its legal on "almost" any road in the US.
I'd actually like an 8'6", but those are only 50 state legal on
interstates if I recall correctly.
Not aware of any state not allowing 102 on local routes even though
the 102 is stipulated for the national highway routes.
To be safe stick to 101 to avoid arguemnts with Leos who can't read
a tape measure or don't hold it square.
On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 11:32:21 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
My intermediate trailer has no proper tie down points at all. Its a twoKeep your eyes open for some good heavy duty 5 inch E-TracK. Alloes
axle flat bed between the wheel wells with a welded rail. I typically
find myself either hooking into the top rail, or the bottom of the
vertical supports for the rail. Looks like two 5000lb axles. I think
the heaviest thing it has hauled is a few modern compact sedans, Ranger
pickup, 42 GPW, and I think my dad hauled my JD3320 with it once or
twice. In between I used it to bring the Hurco KMB1 back from Hemet, Ca
when I bought it.
I've debated welding something on the bed for ages, but the outside ring
of the bed is just 1/8 in x 2 angle. Modern weld on D-rings seem like
brutal overkill for the applications.
In my various searches for cool tools I ran across these things.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/376576633875?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-166974-028196-7&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=376576633875&targetid=2274951440814&device=c&mktype=pla_with_promotion&googleloc=9030149&poi=&campaignid=23226622317&mkgroupid=183439379410&rlsatarget=pla-2274951440814&abcId=10504252&merchantid=5443268034&geoid=9030149&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23226622317&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh_TJOcIMWilSuOETJPGN9r-V&gclid=CjwKCAiAqKbMBhBmEiwAZ3UboBhrn3Xkzvjp4PwSMWbh_o_Z4XHbQvJR-49omfELwtATS6HPe1EhHRoC9k8QAvD_BwE
Short version of the link: https://tinyurl.com/dringforrcm
Its not at all a solution for the previous trailer, but these might just
be the magic sauce for the goose neck trailer which has an outside rail,
and stake pockets between the rail and the bed.
you to put the tie-downs exactly where you want them instead of just
where the stake pockets are. 5" is good for 6000 lbs per strap with
the proper e-hooks
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