• On Topic: Gib Lock Handle & DRO

    From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Jan 30 11:12:12 2026
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    The cast aluminum (or maybe zamak) handle on the Y-axis gib lock busted
    and fell off on the South Bend SB1028F mill a while ago. I can get by
    without it most of the time, and if had to I could grab the head of the
    screw with a pair of water pump pliers or locking pliers to snug it down.

    The X axis had started working intermittently at the positive end of the scale. To keep shop space clear I tend to work more to the positive end
    of the table, but my vise (the one that is bolted down) is nearer the
    center. For the most part I had no issues, but a couple days ago the
    DRO for X quit entirely.

    I have five molds sitting on the mill table waiting on second ops.
    Mostly hinge pins and handles for lead casting molds. I do those
    operations on that mill.

    So yesterday...
    1. I finished my household chores
    2. I chatted in the back yard with my son's BAJA SAE team about planned
    track layouts (simple easy oval right now).
    3. Took my mom to a doctor's appointment.
    4. Drove partway home, and then went back to the doctor's office so she
    could look for her phone.
    5. Finally went home.
    6. Walked back out to back field to chat with the rest of the BAJA team
    about track plans and track usage.
    7. Finally headed in the shop.
    8. A new (different style) handle for the gib lock screw.
    9. Repaired the DRO.

    The gib lock handle is best explained with a picture. I used a
    technique of plotting points on a curve and then plunging with a a
    parting blade to rough the shape, and then finished with a file and
    emery cloth. Its a very old school technique, but its the first time
    I've done it. The I do the rest of the work on the mill without a
    working DRO or Y gib lock. I think I used the dials on the machine for
    the first time since I got it.

    I checked the axis by swapping glass scale cables, and the problem was
    not in the display head. Then I pulled the cover and blew out the
    scale. No luck. I loosened the screws on the read head and a shim fell
    out. The DRO seemed to start working again, so I tightened the mounting screws, and tested. It seemed to work just fine. Even seemed to read
    about right running all the way to the positive end of the table, but
    when I ran back it quit working again.

    Of course twice I had to dig through the huge pile of aluminum chips
    under the machine for screws I dropped in this process.

    There were two things I could think of. Maybe the glass scale was
    damaged (or maybe it wasn't a glass scale) or very dirty, or maybe there
    was an alignment issue. I measured fromt he top of the housing to the
    top of the table with a guess-o-meter (dial caliper) and found slightly
    over 25 thousandths difference from end to end. I measured in the
    middle, and put both ends at about the same distance to the table top
    plus or minus a thousandth or two. Pulled the read head up as close as
    I could, and tightened all the screws. Then I ran the table from stop
    to stop listening very carefully for any dragging. It sounded good and
    I got 36.45 inches stop to stop like I have written down. Actually I
    can run slightly more, but I have an electric power feed stop set at
    each end of the table to prevent that particular crash.

    By then I was about done even though it wasn't that late. I headed into
    the house and made myself a Bacardi and Pepsi Zero. I watched the
    latest episode of Starfleet Academy on Paramount, and fell asleep
    watching Fallout. I woke up just in time to see the large beastie knock
    the guy in the bottle armor through the wall opening up the area where
    they were contained to the rest of post apocalyptic Vegas. Yeah, bed
    time.

    And that is what I did yesterday instead of going fishing.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Jan 30 11:23:05 2026
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    The aforementioned picture: https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/20260130_111447-2.jpg
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    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Jan 30 14:03:54 2026
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    On 1/30/2026 12:50 PM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 11:23:05 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    The aforementioned picture:
    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/20260130_111447-2.jpg

    Yowza! Really nice handle you made there BobEfaiN+A


    That is a pretty handle ! I'm surprised Bob doesn't have a ball
    turning attachment for one of his lathes though ...
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Jan 30 13:15:45 2026
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    On 1/30/2026 1:03 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 1/30/2026 12:50 PM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 11:23:05 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    The aforementioned picture:
    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/
    uploads/2026/01/20260130_111447-2.jpg

    Yowza! Really nice handle you made there BobEfaiN+A


    -a That is a pretty handle ! I'm surprised Bob doesn't have a ball
    turning attachment for one of his lathes though ...

    I started to make one a gazillion years ago, and never finished it. A
    few times I've thought about making one to make ball mounts, but...
    unless I just take time I never have time to do the things I want.

    The few round features I've done I usually CNC on a 4th axis, and then
    just finish/polish on the lathe. Its amazing how close you can get that
    way.

    The thing is the point list and file works. First time I have done it,
    but the the 4th axis and polish is a close facsimile of the process.
    Basically the same process, but starting a little closer before finishing.

    On thing I do fairly often that would really benefit from a ball turner
    is radius turning the end of insert rods, but usually I have a round
    over mill close enough, and just use it like a lathe bit. Gunner once
    told me about a really fast tool for radiusing rod ends, but when I
    looked it up it was crazy expensive, and you had to have one for each
    size rod.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Jan 30 16:40:01 2026
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    On 1/30/2026 4:25 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    For small radii I grind the final edge on a quarter round concave lathe
    bit with an upright conical die grinder stone, which gives smooth
    roundness and cutting edge relief, though not precise size without care
    but that doesn't matter for hand levers or bolt ends. My Multifix tool
    post allows rotating it. Round shaft radius cutters are harder to hold securely without damage.


    If you have a set of radius gages (or at least the one you need) you can
    get a lot closer than you think.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From David Billington@djb@invalid.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Jan 30 23:48:47 2026
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    On 30/01/2026 20:15, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 1/30/2026 1:03 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 1/30/2026 12:50 PM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 11:23:05 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    The aforementioned picture:
    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/
    uploads/2026/01/20260130_111447-2.jpg

    Yowza! Really nice handle you made there BobEfaiN+A


    -a-a That is a pretty handle ! I'm surprised Bob doesn't have a ball
    turning attachment for one of his lathes though ...

    I started to make one a gazillion years ago, and never finished it.-a A
    few times I've thought about making one to make ball mounts, but...
    unless I just take time I never have time to do the things I want.

    The few round features I've done I usually CNC on a 4th axis, and then
    just finish/polish on the lathe. Its amazing how close you can get
    that way.

    The thing is the point list and file works.-a First time I have done
    it, but the the 4th axis and polish is a close facsimile of the
    process. Basically the same process, but starting a little closer
    before finishing.

    On thing I do fairly often that would really benefit from a ball
    turner is radius turning the end of insert rods, but usually I have a
    round over mill close enough, and just use it like a lathe bit.-a
    Gunner once told me about a really fast tool for radiusing rod ends,
    but when I looked it up it was crazy expensive, and you had to have
    one for each size rod.


    Could you generate the ball rather than use a ball turning attachment
    like here https://youtu.be/31iAlFyAGLM?t=283 , might need the 4th axis
    tilted. Could be done on a lathe if a similar rotating cutter was fitted
    in place in-a the toolpost. A machinist I used to know did a helical
    machining job on his large lathe by fitting a Bridgeport M head in place
    of the compound and ran the lathe as when thread cutting, worked very
    well judging by the results.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Fri Jan 30 20:19:13 2026
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    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:10ljfgi$2a14d$1@dont-email.me...

    On 1/30/2026 4:25 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    For small radii I grind the final edge on a quarter round concave lathe
    bit with an upright conical die grinder stone, which gives smooth
    roundness and cutting edge relief, though not precise size without care
    but that doesn't matter for hand levers or bolt ends. My Multifix tool
    post allows rotating it. Round shaft radius cutters are harder to hold securely without damage.

    If you have a set of radius gages (or at least the one you need) you can
    get a lot closer than you think.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    ------------------------------
    My sister gave me a radius gauge set for Christmas, in exchange for garden tools. I measure the diameter of the conical stone at the bit cutting edge. I've shaped two gear cutters by visual comparison against a light and they came out well enough.

    Using bright light to fit a hand sharpened plane blade to a try square was a test we had to pass in 8th grade wood shop, as was filing rip and crosscut
    saw blades. We learned old timer precision without power tools and I used
    the skills on the lovely 1825/28/30(?) house my father was restoring and updating from 1920's plumbing and wiring and coal heat. Door hinges etc had
    to be closely hand mortised wherever they were, which became my job. The
    house had settled a little and nothing was exactly square, doors that no longer closed had to be refitted, sometimes elsewhere. With the Shopsmith we made custom cabinets with wood or glass panel doors and tongue-and-groove flooring long before big box stores provided them.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/11-Chestnut-St-Exeter-NH-03833/2118645412_zpid/

    It's more modern inside now. Mom had a nice collection of early American antiques that my sister has in her 1790 house.

    When Dad had done enough with the brick house he bought the big grey house next door and converted it from a funeral home into nice apartments. The big tree beyond the white fence is a Linden, one of many uncommon types there including Chestnuts.


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