• Soft flashing metal

    From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Nov 8 19:12:42 2025
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    The flashing metal sold in the local hardware stores tends to be
    fairly hard, difficult to fold around compound curves. I'd like
    to find some softer material, ideally fully annealed like aluminum
    food wrap. Aluminum is acceptable, galvanized steel might work,
    copper is going to be overpriced for what I'm doing. Thickness
    isn't critical, .010" would be fine. Most aluminum foil is well
    under .001", I think "heavy duty" foil is under .002".

    Any ideas where to look, or names to search online?

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska



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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Nov 8 12:33:26 2025
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    On 11/8/2025 12:12 PM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    The flashing metal sold in the local hardware stores tends to be
    fairly hard, difficult to fold around compound curves. I'd like
    to find some softer material, ideally fully annealed like aluminum
    food wrap. Aluminum is acceptable, galvanized steel might work,
    copper is going to be overpriced for what I'm doing. Thickness
    isn't critical, .010" would be fine. Most aluminum foil is well
    under .001", I think "heavy duty" foil is under .002".

    Any ideas where to look, or names to search online?

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska





    I think most of the flashing available at my local big box borg *IS"
    aluminum.

    What you may want is lead flashing, but I don't think its sold anymore.
    I'm also not sure its legal to install in most jurisdictions anymore,
    although I am told lead is still allowed for repairs on old cast iron
    drain pipe. I made a mold for a lead vendor a few years ago for
    measured blocks strung together with a lead handle on both ends to be
    sold to plumbing companies.

    I stand corrected. A quick search shows lead flashing is in fact still
    sold. Protech, Philips, KRT, and Rotometals all sell some form. Since RotoMetals is a lead vendor they might have the best price. You might
    also check with PBCastCo, but I think John only sells ingots... if you
    have a rolling mill you could turn ingots into sheets. :^)

    Legality & local code still unknown.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sat Nov 8 19:49:24 2025
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    BP wrote in message news:10eo4n9$2p9ue$1@dont-email.me...

    The flashing metal sold in the local hardware stores tends to be
    fairly hard, difficult to fold around compound curves. I'd like
    to find some softer material, ideally fully annealed like aluminum
    food wrap. Aluminum is acceptable, galvanized steel might work,
    copper is going to be overpriced for what I'm doing. Thickness
    isn't critical, .010" would be fine. Most aluminum foil is well
    under .001", I think "heavy duty" foil is under .002".

    Any ideas where to look, or names to search online?
    Thanks for reading,
    bob prohaska
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    Pure or low alloy aluminum types 1100 or 3003 should do, I don't know a
    local retail source. 5052 in the O temper might be fairly easy to form. I bought a 4' x 8' sheet of it from an HVAC shop and had them shear it into 2'
    x 4' sections my equipment can handle. I form aluminum into rectangular
    boxes to hold electronics and make compound curves in steel for rust
    repairs.

    https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/aluminumalloy.pdf

    I form compound curves on my anvil or a wood cylinder with a depression in
    the end, hammering metal over the depression stretches it concave, then it
    can be rebent into oval etc compound curves for matching repairs, like fenders. I've shaped up to 14 gauge steel this way, into a trumpet bell
    shape for the baseplate socket for heavy lift tripods.

    I modeled the Ranger's embossed floor patch from cardboard, then soda can aluminum, then 0.030" aluminum, and last a sandwich of galvanized steel roofing. At each step I found a better and more accurate way to form the shape. The final MIG welded version is planned to be galvanized steel from above-ground pool trim. Acetone removes its powder coating.

    https://raybuck.com/product/1983-92-rangerbronco-ii-cab-floor-driver-side/?
    The upper oval is access to a cab mount bolt head, the lower was the drain after dipping the cab in the vat of primer, and could have been left solid
    in a repair panel.

    Rust ate away around the lower oval cutout which was incompletely sealed
    with a rubber plug. It ate into the end of the raised rib that points toward its center. My patch continues the rib across the now filled drain in a
    stiff triangle that lets the rest of the patch lie flat, the only compound curve from shortening the edge is at its lower (rear) end where the floor rises anyway.


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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Nov 16 18:33:01 2025
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    https://makeitfrommetal.com/how-to-anneal-aluminum-the-beginners-guide/

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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Nov 17 01:18:45 2025
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    Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://makeitfrommetal.com/how-to-anneal-aluminum-the-beginners-guide/

    That seems worth a try.

    Thank you!

    bob prohaska


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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Wed Nov 19 15:08:20 2025
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    BP wrote in message news:10fdt5l$hni0$1@dont-email.me...

    Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://makeitfrommetal.com/how-to-anneal-aluminum-the-beginners-guide/

    That seems worth a try.
    Thank you!
    bob prohaska
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    I put a scrap of 0.050" aluminum, likely 5052, on the wood stove to anneal
    at 500-600F. Afterwards I could bend it in my fingers and hammer it into a bowl shape about the curvature of a tennis ball before it strain hardened again.

    This is one type of tooling used to form convex curves in sheet metal. https://www.firemountaingems.com/3466TL.html?

    I used a ball pein hammer to dish it in the end of a pipe coupler.

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