The 564 has a B-stay arangement and will not fit a 28 mm tire under the B-stay. I am hoping that it will take a 25 but those were the days of high pressure 23 mm or smaller tires and there simply may not be room. But hope springs eternal and I have a Continental Ultra SS 25 mm on the way.
Robinson's Wheel Woeks cut the 10 speed axle down to size and respaced the wheel. He also put new balls in the Shimano hub and it now rolls perfectly smooth and straight.
Since I am also fiting a triple to the Basso Loto which is pretty heavy, I had to orser an Octalink bottom braket in Italian threads. I suppose that I could have fount a 7000 series triple but I had no intentions of paying what that would be worth.
And besides, I have found the oactalink BB's t0o have lower fricetion that the newer two piece cranes.
The triple pn the Schwinn is an 8 speed for which I am using 10 speed levers lockef down to 8 speed with the limit screws.
The Basso is full 10 speed and woith the long arm rear derailleur and if I understand Andrew correctly I should be able to shift an 11-36. If this climbs like I suspect I will try Mt. Hamilton which is the highest peal in the bay area. Shimano of course.
On 2/17/2026 3:54 PM, cyclintom wrote:I can't remember what's on it but with the double it was already shifting the 36.
The 564 has a B-stay arangement and will not fit a 28 mm tire under the B-stay. I am hoping that it will take a 25 but those were the days of high pressure 23 mm or smaller tires and there simply may not be room. But hope springs eternal and I have a Continental Ultra SS 25 mm on the way.
Robinson's Wheel Woeks cut the 10 speed axle down to size and respaced the wheel. He also put new balls in the Shimano hub and it now rolls perfectly smooth and straight.
Since I am also fiting a triple to the Basso Loto which is pretty heavy, I had to orser an Octalink bottom braket in Italian threads. I suppose that I could have fount a 7000 series triple but I had no intentions of paying what that would be worth.
And besides, I have found the oactalink BB's t0o have lower fricetion that the newer two piece cranes.
The triple pn the Schwinn is an 8 speed for which I am using 10 speed levers lockef down to 8 speed with the limit screws.
The Basso is full 10 speed and woith the long arm rear derailleur and if I understand Andrew correctly I should be able to shift an 11-36. If this climbs like I suspect I will try Mt. Hamilton which is the highest peal in the bay area. Shimano of course.
Long road rear changer unlikely. Deore or similar no problem.
On Tue Feb 17 16:28:54 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 2/17/2026 3:54 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The 564 has a B-stay arangement and will not fit a 28 mm tire under the B-stay. I am hoping that it will take a 25 but those were the days of high pressure 23 mm or smaller tires and there simply may not be room. But hope springs eternal and I have a Continental Ultra SS 25 mm on the way.
Robinson's Wheel Woeks cut the 10 speed axle down to size and respaced the wheel. He also put new balls in the Shimano hub and it now rolls perfectly smooth and straight.
Since I am also fiting a triple to the Basso Loto which is pretty heavy, I had to orser an Octalink bottom braket in Italian threads. I suppose that I could have fount a 7000 series triple but I had no intentions of paying what that would be worth.
And besides, I have found the oactalink BB's t0o have lower fricetion that the newer two piece cranes.
The triple pn the Schwinn is an 8 speed for which I am using 10 speed levers lockef down to 8 speed with the limit screws.
The Basso is full 10 speed and woith the long arm rear derailleur and if I understand Andrew correctly I should be able to shift an 11-36. If this climbs like I suspect I will try Mt. Hamilton which is the highest peal in the bay area. Shimano of course.
Long road rear changer unlikely. Deore or similar no problem.
I can't remember what's on it but with the double it was already shifting the 36.I think that it is a 105 long arm.
On Tue Feb 17 23:35:23 2026 cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Feb 17 16:28:54 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 2/17/2026 3:54 PM, cyclintom wrote:
The 564 has a B-stay arangement and will not fit a 28 mm tire under
the B-stay. I am hoping that it will take a 25 but those were the days >>>> of high pressure 23 mm or smaller tires and there simply may not be
room. But hope springs eternal and I have a Continental Ultra SS 25 mm on the way.
Robinson's Wheel Woeks cut the 10 speed axle down to size and respaced >>>> the wheel. He also put new balls in the Shimano hub and it now rolls
perfectly smooth and straight.
Since I am also fiting a triple to the Basso Loto which is pretty
heavy, I had to orser an Octalink bottom braket in Italian threads. I
suppose that I could have fount a 7000 series triple but I had no
intentions of paying what that would be worth.
And besides, I have found the oactalink BB's t0o have lower fricetion
that the newer two piece cranes.
The triple pn the Schwinn is an 8 speed for which I am using 10 speed
levers lockef down to 8 speed with the limit screws.
The Basso is full 10 speed and woith the long arm rear derailleur and
if I understand Andrew correctly I should be able to shift an 11-36.
If this climbs like I suspect I will try Mt. Hamilton which is the
highest peal in the bay area. Shimano of course.
Long road rear changer unlikely. Deore or similar no problem.
I can't remember what's on it but with the double it was already shifting the 36.
I think that it is a 105 long arm.
Shimano, is notorious cautious, seems to be 32t maximum it?s the modernThe Continental Ultra SS 25 mm came in today and it was rather surprising. While the 28 mm version was rubbving so tightly on the B-Stsy that you couldn't turn the wheel, the 25 has za great amound of room. Looking at this normally I would say that there's plenty of room for a 28. I woiuld assume that the construction of the tire itself is causing the trouble and something like a Specializerd tire would probably fit fine.
stuff 12s stuff that will take 36t at the briefest of search?s as it?s a medium cage or short cage, versions.
GRX does indeed take 11-36 I have that on the gravel bike. But is much more modern kit, be that 10/11/12 speed.
On Wed Feb 18 11:01:49 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
Shimano, is notorious cautious, seems to be 32t maximum it?s the modern
stuff 12s stuff that will take 36t at the briefest of search?s as it?s a
medium cage or short cage, versions.
GRX does indeed take 11-36 I have that on the gravel bike. But is much more >> modern kit, be that 10/11/12 speed.
The Continental Ultra SS 25 mm came in today and it was rather surprising. While the 28 mm version was rubbving so tightly on the B-Stsy that you couldn't turn the wheel, the 25 has za great amound of room. Looking at this normally I would say that there's plenty of room for a 28. I woiuld assume that the construction of the tire itself is causing the trouble and something like a Specializerd tire would probably fit fine.
I'm fitting the brake cables and then will proceed with the shifters. I will probably have some adjusting to do with the triple. Because this is an 8 speed with the 10 speed levers being limited by the limit screws the rear is no problem. The front derailleur really needs to have the plastic inner wire guide fitted and the one that is there is too long and the Octalink BB interferes with it. I think that I have the proper size around here (5 x 10 mm ) but the soft metal threadz will probably require gluing the screw in.
Also, I want to finish with the 564 today to free up the bike workstand. The cyclocross frame is due in today and that is going to be a double with 35 mm semi-knobbies on it. FSA cranks and 10 speed STWoo levers. Long arm Shimano rear derailkleur and the present double front derailleur.Can anyone suggest a set of light wheels that will hold the 35 mm wide knobbies? My intension is to use some Campagnolo Vento wheels with a Shimano freehub and an 11-36 10 speed cassette. I also have a set of Bontrager Race Lite wheels. but they are 19 mm inside width.
I have too many bikes to sell and no one is buying and the rainy season is on us nnow,.I'll be lucky to get in a ride on Saturday. It poured last night and didn;'t clear up until 10 this morning and the wind is blowing 25 mph. The road and the trails are soaked.
On 2/19/2026 6:48 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Feb 18 11:01:49 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
Shimano, is notorious cautious, seems to be 32t maximum it?s the modern
stuff 12s stuff that will take 36t at the briefest of search?s as it?s a >> medium cage or short cage, versions.
GRX does indeed take 11-36 I have that on the gravel bike. But is much more
modern kit, be that 10/11/12 speed.
I will give that a try, but the screw bottoms out against the Octalink shell and assume that simply putting a locknut on the screw won't change its length. but perhaps that will solve the screwed up thread problem i don't like gluing screws into bunged threadsThe Continental Ultra SS 25 mm came in today and it was rather surprising. While the 28 mm version was rubbving so tightly on the B-Stsy that you couldn't turn the wheel, the 25 has za great amound of room. Looking at this normally I would say that there's plenty of room for a 28. I woiuld assume that the construction of the tire itself is causing the trouble and something like a Specializerd tire would probably fit fine.
I'm fitting the brake cables and then will proceed with the shifters. I will probably have some adjusting to do with the triple. Because this is an 8 speed with the 10 speed levers being limited by the limit screws the rear is no problem. The front derailleur really needs to have the plastic inner wire guide fitted and the one that is there is too long and the Octalink BB interferes with it. I think that I have the proper size around here (5 x 10 mm ) but the soft metal threadz will probably require gluing the screw in.
Also, I want to finish with the 564 today to free up the bike workstand. The cyclocross frame is due in today and that is going to be a double with 35 mm semi-knobbies on it. FSA cranks and 10 speed STWoo levers. Long arm Shimano rear derailkleur and the present double front derailleur.Can anyone suggest a set of light wheels that will hold the 35 mm wide knobbies? My intension is to use some Campagnolo Vento wheels with a Shimano freehub and an 11-36 10 speed cassette. I also have a set of Bontrager Race Lite wheels. but they are 19 mm inside width.
I have too many bikes to sell and no one is buying and the rainy season is on us nnow,.I'll be lucky to get in a ride on Saturday. It poured last night and didn;'t clear up until 10 this morning and the wind is blowing 25 mph. The road and the trails are soaked.
I think you wrote that the nylon BB plate screw is too long.
The usual solution is a presta valve locknut under the
bolt head.
On Thu Feb 19 19:19:49 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 2/19/2026 6:48 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Feb 18 11:01:49 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
Shimano, is notorious cautious, seems to be 32t maximum it?s the modern >>>> stuff 12s stuff that will take 36t at the briefest of search?s as it?s a >>>> medium cage or short cage, versions.
GRX does indeed take 11-36 I have that on the gravel bike. But is much more
modern kit, be that 10/11/12 speed.
The Continental Ultra SS 25 mm came in today and it was rather surprising. While the 28 mm version was rubbving so tightly on the B-Stsy that you couldn't turn the wheel, the 25 has za great amound of room. Looking at this normally I would say that there's plenty of room for a 28. I woiuld assume that the construction of the tire itself is causing the trouble and something like a Specializerd tire would probably fit fine.
I'm fitting the brake cables and then will proceed with the shifters. I will probably have some adjusting to do with the triple. Because this is an 8 speed with the 10 speed levers being limited by the limit screws the rear is no problem. The front derailleur really needs to have the plastic inner wire guide fitted and the one that is there is too long and the Octalink BB interferes with it. I think that I have the proper size around here (5 x 10 mm ) but the soft metal threadz will probably require gluing the screw in.
Also, I want to finish with the 564 today to free up the bike workstand. The cyclocross frame is due in today and that is going to be a double with 35 mm semi-knobbies on it. FSA cranks and 10 speed STWoo levers. Long arm Shimano rear derailkleur and the present double front derailleur.Can anyone suggest a set of light wheels that will hold the 35 mm wide knobbies? My intension is to use some Campagnolo Vento wheels with a Shimano freehub and an 11-36 10 speed cassette. I also have a set of Bontrager Race Lite wheels. but they are 19 mm inside width.
I have too many bikes to sell and no one is buying and the rainy season is on us nnow,.I'll be lucky to get in a ride on Saturday. It poured last night and didn;'t clear up until 10 this morning and the wind is blowing 25 mph. The road and the trails are soaked.
I think you wrote that the nylon BB plate screw is too long.
The usual solution is a presta valve locknut under the
bolt head.
I will give that a try, but the screw bottoms out against the Octalink shell and assume that simply putting a locknut on the screw won't change its length. but perhaps that will solve the screwed up thread problem i don't like gluing screws into bunged threads
On 2/20/2026 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Feb 19 19:19:49 2026 AMuzi wrote:
On 2/19/2026 6:48 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Feb 18 11:01:49 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
Shimano, is notorious cautious, seems to be 32t maximum it?s the modern >>>> stuff 12s stuff that will take 36t at the briefest of search?s as it?s a >>>> medium cage or short cage, versions.
GRX does indeed take 11-36 I have that on the gravel bike. But is much more
modern kit, be that 10/11/12 speed.
The Continental Ultra SS 25 mm came in today and it was rather surprising. While the 28 mm version was rubbving so tightly on the B-Stsy that you couldn't turn the wheel, the 25 has za great amound of room. Looking at this normally I would say that there's plenty of room for a 28. I woiuld assume that the construction of the tire itself is causing the trouble and something like a Specializerd tire would probably fit fine.
I'm fitting the brake cables and then will proceed with the shifters. I will probably have some adjusting to do with the triple. Because this is an 8 speed with the 10 speed levers being limited by the limit screws the rear is no problem. The front derailleur really needs to have the plastic inner wire guide fitted and the one that is there is too long and the Octalink BB interferes with it. I think that I have the proper size around here (5 x 10 mm ) but the soft metal threadz will probably require gluing the screw in.
Also, I want to finish with the 564 today to free up the bike workstand. The cyclocross frame is due in today and that is going to be a double with 35 mm semi-knobbies on it. FSA cranks and 10 speed STWoo levers. Long arm Shimano rear derailkleur and the present double front derailleur.Can anyone suggest a set of light wheels that will hold the 35 mm wide knobbies? My intension is to use some Campagnolo Vento wheels with a Shimano freehub and an 11-36 10 speed cassette. I also have a set of Bontrager Race Lite wheels. but they are 19 mm inside width.
I have too many bikes to sell and no one is buying and the rainy season is on us nnow,.I'll be lucky to get in a ride on Saturday. It poured last night and didn;'t clear up until 10 this morning and the wind is blowing 25 mph. The road and the trails are soaked.
I think you wrote that the nylon BB plate screw is too long.
The usual solution is a presta valve locknut under the
bolt head.
I was siting here looking at the 5 mm screw, I realized that one of the screws for the Dura Ace brake shoe was the correct length. Screwed the lower guide to the bottom of the BB and ran the shift cables. Then while setting the shift cables up I dropped the allen wrench and it took me 15 minutes which didn't give me enough time to adjust the tension.I will give that a try, but the screw bottoms out against the Octalink shell and assume that simply putting a locknut on the screw won't change its length. but perhaps that will solve the screwed up thread problem i don't like gluing screws into bunged threads
Perhaps I was not clear.
When you need a bolt 8mm long and only have a 12 (which is
what I think you described), adding a presta valve nut under
the head of the bolt leaves the right amount of thread
available. This is a common problem for nylon BB plates and
that's the common solution.
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